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Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:41 pm

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Top 5 Best Non Screen/Show Accurate Transformers Toys

The idea of owning a part of what you are a fan of is integral to the idea of collecting action figures. And of course, it is important for the object representing what we love to be as faithful as possible. I do remember being disappointed as a kid with the mutant heads on Beast Wars toys so much that I would remove them on Megatron and Dinobot, so even for kids accuracy to a show or movie can be important. However, there are some toys which are still pretty awesome even though they may have major inaccuracies and we will look at the best examples now.


5. Transformers Beast Wars Metals Tigerhawk (Tigerfalcon)

There was very little discrepancy between show models and toys for Beast Wars after the first season, which was great for kids. Tigerhawk was a glaring exception though. It’s not that the differences are numerous but more that they are very obvious and in your face. With this character being a combination of Tigertron and Airrazor, I understand the toy designers wanting to integrate both the alt mode heads in the alt mode, with a hawk battle mask going over the organic tiger head making Tigerhawk look a lot like one of those He Man battle cat toys. That was probably too goofy for the show, which ignored this and gave Tigerhawk a more streamlined look of a flying mechanical tiger with no Hawk head. It definitely makes the toy look way off compared to the show model, but it doesn’t stop the toy from being awesome and having excellent play value. I really like those wing missiles.

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4. Transformers Beast Machines Tankor

Beast Machines will always be one of the oddest eras of Transformers with a show that people are still split on, on show transformations that were closer to morphing than changing parts, and a toyline that looked very different from the show with no sense of scale. Case in point, the toy which looks the most like the Tankor we see on the show is a small unimposing tank drone. We do have a bigger Tankor toy (called Tankor) in the toyline and while it does not look like the show it is one of my favourite toys. Especially with being even more complex than the animation shows him to be by having one head/cockpit for each of his modes.

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3. Transformers Beast Wars Tripredacus (Tripledacus) Gallery

I only realized waaaay later that the three combining components of Tripredicus were supposed to be the three characters we see on the show. It’s not obvious (especially for a kid) since the three seen in shadows would not have beast modes, and the headsculpts don’t look like the three toys we did get. Plus, it’s not like the Magnaboss components were seen on the show (as part of any Maximal government). It doesn’t stop Tripredicus from being one of the best combiners we ever got of course.



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2. Transformers (2007) Optimus Prime

In the later half of the 2000s, here was a big change in Transformers toys where the animated models were created independently of the toys (and have been ever since). Of course, toy designers could get a look at what the artists were working on but since a toy cycle is 2 years, there was a lot of changes from when a toy designer gets a model and what we see in the film. Add to that the fact that toy designers had never dealt with such complex designs as the live action ones and we ended up with an odd first batch of movie toys looking very different than what we saw onscreen. A great example was Optimus Prime, whose toy was much blockier than the onsceen model. But it was still a phenomenal toy with a very different transfomation scheme for Optimus, where the legs are in the front of the cab and not the back, and a new level of complexity we had not been privy to before. Plus, it being blocky made this toy a perfect hybrid easing us in on both the new types of transformations schemes and the new movie aesthetic.

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1. Transformers G1 1985 Jetfire (Skyfire)

While Hasbro had obtained the license to sell a Macross toy as part of their Transformers line, the show had to change the look of the toy, especially in alt mode. So what you see on the show is very different than the sleek sexy jet we got with the toy. I don’t think too many kids minded though, especially since the toy looked so awesome. And we all know Jetfire is easily one of the best toys of the G1 era.

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Honourable Mentions: Transformers Masterpiece Starscream (MP-03)

I am not a huge fan of this toy but I can't deny how lovely the jet mode is. Of course, the perfection of the jet mode means the robot mode ends up with a lot of kibble and not looking as close to the G1 model as the previous Masterpiece mold, Optimus Prime, did. And of course, the colours were completely off.

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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:45 pm

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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby TulioDude » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:25 pm

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Nice list! :APPLAUSE:

The only thing that I would disagree,is that Tigerhwak is a show accurate toy,in robot mode.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby Randomhero » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:28 pm

I don’t know I mean can you get less accurate with toy black arachnia and cartoon black arachnia? At least with the ones listed you know who they are. With just looking at her toy I dont think you can identify her as black arachnia
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:01 am

Randomhero wrote:I don’t know I mean can you get less accurate with toy black arachnia and cartoon black arachnia? At least with the ones listed you know who they are. With just looking at her toy I dont think you can identify her as black arachnia

But is thst toy better than any of these? It just being a redeco makes it pretty weak to me.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:49 am

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Great list as always Will, though I personally think that the Deluxe version of Animated Megatron from the Battle Begins set is extremely fun to play with while not being screen accurate at all, especially in alt mode
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:05 am

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BM Tankor is pretty damn awesome. And one thing that is really impressive, is it's full of gimmicks, but none hinder the bot!

That 2007 Leader Optimus? Not screen accurate at all, yes. But man, is it a fun toy to handle. I have the "premium" version and I'll never get rid of it.

G1 Jetfire. Truly a toy that was ahead of it's time. Complex transformation, sleek modes, and lots of options. This was a MASTERPIECE before masterpieces were a thing. No wonder every single Maccross toys of this scale that came after were 200$ or 400$ collector items. When handling G1 Jetfire, I have the impression of handling a product meant for adult collectors.


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MP-03 being a very great honorable mention, let me add a few of my own:

2007 voyager Starscream
The overall bot take the general idea of Bay Screamer's design. But everything is off. Especially the head and the big gimmicky hands. But I always ADORED this mold simply because it's so fun to transform and the bot do look burly and powerful. I especially like the Pink HD-DVD version.

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All the other G1s that were radically changed in the show:

Megatron, Ironhide/Ratchet, Reflector... All those toys I own and enjoy greatly. I love the naiveté of their design and how "vintage" and "classic" they look. I would have liked Reflector to be like the toy in the show. But they had to make army troopers so original clones make sense.

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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:06 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:From what I hear Greenscream is annoyingly brittle


I LOVE that mold but yeah. There's key points were you must be very, very careful. Especially in the tail wings and some tabs.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:49 am

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Yeah that write up about 2007 Leader Prime is spot on. It's a fun toy completely eclipsed by the RotF Leader for screen accuracy but good chunky fun by itself. For a while I had the Nightwatch deco version I found in a charity shop and had it posed next to my then Buster Prime as a sort of Ultra Magnus-like character with how similar yet still very different looks the RotF and 2007 molds had.

And yeah for me Jetfire is easily the best G1 toy by far. Nothing else touched it for coolness in both modes, transformation, articulation, size all in one package. For me the G1 line just declined steadily after his release. He was the peak. And I've never liked the boxy Skyfire look Hasbro were forced to use for later toys and the toon/comics cos of the Macross license.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:06 am

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Just imagine what'd happen if Bandai and Takara merged ;) then at least Japan would see the G1 Jetfire (and for the first time too) oh and countless anime transformers crossovers.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby TK415 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:22 am

Cool list. Thanks
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:22 am

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I fully agree on that 2007 Optimus Prime mold. It's not overly accurate, but close, and it is an incredible toy. It is the best movie Optimus Prime toy I own, and the absolute #1 of my collection.

I would sort of disagree with Tigerhawk, because that toy minus the falcon mask is pretty dang accurate. I don't think that one piece should qualify it for this list, but I love Tigerhawk in all his forms, so i can't argue too much.

Can I go out on a limb and say all of the Beast Hunters line? Especially Sharkticon Megatron? That was a fantastic period in Transformers
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:42 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Can I go out on a limb and say all of the Beast Hunters line? Especially Sharkticon Megatron? That was a fantastic period in Transformers


Dunno if that line count because that particular "story line" was never in the show to begin with. However, that Sharkticon Megatron is pretty awesome.

I could count the "Legion enhanced" Predaking. The one who is more "ultra sized" than voyager. That Predaking is not show accurate, but it's the BEST Prime Predaking toy.

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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:47 am

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I always wanted that upscaled predaking, also a shame many of the predacons never made it into the cartoon
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby Black Hat » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:40 am

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Wonderful list as always Willy J!

G1 Astrotain IMO looks much nicer than his cartoon counterpart, and the same with the Combaticons (and most of the combiners really). That's kinda cheating though, as the cartoon models were loosely based off of them.

I'll definitely agree with 2007 Prime. He just looks really nice, a big blocky chunky heroic Prime suitable for anyone.

I'd also nominate CW Dragstrip, who aside from his altmode is a step up from his cartoon model in every way. Good colour breakup, better proportions, interesting detailing, nice secondary colours...

And finally I might be tempted to suggest the JP versions of the Animated line. Accurate? Not at all. But those lovely metallic paintjobs, homina homina!
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:05 pm

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BM Tankor is a great toy. A ton of play value packed into him, and one of the coolest light-piping gimmicks ever! That single-Cylon eye sweeping back and forth, so cool!

And yeah, 2007-movie Optimus is a fun toy. Really big and chunky and imposing.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby bacem » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:42 pm

I never bothered getting 2007 optimus mold. But going by everyone her agreeing on his point, maybe i'll give it a go.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby Optimum Supreme » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:54 pm

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G1 Jetfire was a great toy, not just for its time, but for all time, and now, decades later, we get a new one based on the "Skyfire" model sheets, too. Life is good.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:58 pm

Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
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bacem wrote:I never bothered getting 2007 optimus mold. But going by everyone her agreeing on his point, maybe i'll give it a go.


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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby RacerCheetor » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:54 am

As far as is known, the figure of Tripredacus came out first before the Tripredacus Council of the TV series appears, the change of appearance is already a Mainframe issue, although according to TFWiki: both Tripredacus are different characters... until they appeared in the BotCon 2016 deferring that. #-o

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would sort of disagree with Tigerhawk, because that toy minus the falcon mask is pretty dang accurate. I don't think that one piece should qualify it for this list

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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:43 am

RacerCheetor wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would sort of disagree with Tigerhawk, because that toy minus the falcon mask is pretty dang accurate. I don't think that one piece should qualify it for this list

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You stole the words from my mouth. :-P


For your lists sure, but this is mine and Tigerhawk fits perfectly. As I stated, it is not the extent of how different the toy is but how right front and centre that one big difference is. It's so close that it becomes more frustrating that other cases and thus on those grounds I find it a perfect fit.

Also, the falcon mask is not then only aspect. The tiger head on the show is far more robotic/mechanical. It is more angular and the eyes are clearly inorganic. It differs to the toy which went for a very organic lion head. So all that inancuracy is all in that same central area of the figure in beast mode and still prediminant in robot mode.
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Postby YRQRM0 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:43 pm

The love that is coming around for 2007 Prime is very surprising, I remember in 2009 when the ROTF version came and we were all so thankful for the improvement lol.

Also, totally agree on that 2007 seeker mold, it's still one of my favorites even though it misses a lot.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby Stargrave » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:52 pm

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When I was a kid with the G1 cartoon it was like just about all of them required a stretch of the imagination, but for me I was so stoked to have real Japanese robot toys to play with my brain just went along with it and filled in the gaps.
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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:44 pm

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Great list, as ever!

Now Pre-Movie G1 isn't really my area of expertise, but I did recently pick up a G1 Jetfire for a friend and Yes, that is a very nice figure, regardless of screen accuracy.

My view on Tripredacus was the Council would have looked like the combiner team, if they went to pre-historic Earth and assumed those Beast Modes. My head canon never saw a discrepancy beyond that and of course, I am dismissive of retcons IE the Botcon set.

Personally, I would have switched out Tankor (a design I didn't like in toy or show) for Jetstorm and/or oddly enough, Optimus Primal. As I thought both of these designs were (1) among the highlights of BM figures and (2) MUCH better than the show models...

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Re: Top 5 Best Non Screen Accurate Transformers Toys

Postby Black Hat » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:17 pm

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I thought of another one- Generations Seaspray (the Voyager). Accurate to any incarnation of Seaspray, let alone G1? Not in the slightest. Awesome as all hell? You bet!
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