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Galvatron X wrote:Prime Riblet wrote:I admit that it truly pisses me off to have not even seen a single Warpath, but whatever. Oh well.
I've never seen a Warpath in stores either. But that's just poopy Hasbro distribution - not scalpers, right?
Cyber Bishop wrote:First PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. No name calling PERIOD. I am interested in getting fellow collectors opinions on scalping
Through the years I have heard all the reasons why people buy collectables, then turn around slap "rare" on them and sell them on ebay.
The one reason that always rubbed me the wrong way is:
"I sell the extra to pay for my toy collecting habit"
I say this, you want to pay for your habit, then get another job to support it. I have worked ONE job and still manage to swing by with what I want to buy. Do not rob other collectors the joy of waling into a store and finding the new latest and greatest toys.
Another one is "oh I am helping out fellow collectors"
No. Sorry but this does not work, you want to "help" then sell them for what it cost you to pick them up. Don't factor gas because to be honest it does not matter if gas is $4 a gallon or $2, you went to the store to pick up something for yourself and just so happened to picked up extras. If gas it too much for you then simply stop collecting and you won't waste gas driving around to look for toys.
Please discuss this and keep it civil as I am interested in others views on the subject.
Soundwave99 wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:First PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. No name calling PERIOD. I am interested in getting fellow collectors opinions on scalping
Through the years I have heard all the reasons why people buy collectables, then turn around slap "rare" on them and sell them on ebay.
The one reason that always rubbed me the wrong way is:
"I sell the extra to pay for my toy collecting habit"
I say this, you want to pay for your habit, then get another job to support it. I have worked ONE job and still manage to swing by with what I want to buy. Do not rob other collectors the joy of waling into a store and finding the new latest and greatest toys.
Another one is "oh I am helping out fellow collectors"
No. Sorry but this does not work, you want to "help" then sell them for what it cost you to pick them up. Don't factor gas because to be honest it does not matter if gas is $4 a gallon or $2, you went to the store to pick up something for yourself and just so happened to picked up extras. If gas it too much for you then simply stop collecting and you won't waste gas driving around to look for toys.
Please discuss this and keep it civil as I am interested in others views on the subject.
I'm going to be blunt here. I just don't understand this kind of thinking. We live in a capitalist society here in the U.S., people are free to make money any legal way they see fit. Why do you think it's ok for you to tell others how they should earn money to pay for a toy collecting habit or anything else for that matter?
Also, there is no right to walk into a store and find the latest and greatest anything. If you want that experience, you better beat other people to it, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
I'm not trying to be rude, just giving my opinion like you asked for.
decepta-scott wrote: For me, more than half the fun is finding the new figs on the shelf. It brings back that nostalgic feeling of being a kid.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Soundwave99 wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:First PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. No name calling PERIOD. I am interested in getting fellow collectors opinions on scalping
Through the years I have heard all the reasons why people buy collectables, then turn around slap "rare" on them and sell them on ebay.
The one reason that always rubbed me the wrong way is:
"I sell the extra to pay for my toy collecting habit"
I say this, you want to pay for your habit, then get another job to support it. I have worked ONE job and still manage to swing by with what I want to buy. Do not rob other collectors the joy of waling into a store and finding the new latest and greatest toys.
Another one is "oh I am helping out fellow collectors"
No. Sorry but this does not work, you want to "help" then sell them for what it cost you to pick them up. Don't factor gas because to be honest it does not matter if gas is $4 a gallon or $2, you went to the store to pick up something for yourself and just so happened to picked up extras. If gas it too much for you then simply stop collecting and you won't waste gas driving around to look for toys.
Please discuss this and keep it civil as I am interested in others views on the subject.
I'm going to be blunt here. I just don't understand this kind of thinking. We live in a capitalist society here in the U.S., people are free to make money any legal way they see fit. Why do you think it's ok for you to tell others how they should earn money to pay for a toy collecting habit or anything else for that matter?
Also, there is no right to walk into a store and find the latest and greatest anything. If you want that experience, you better beat other people to it, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
I'm not trying to be rude, just giving my opinion like you asked for.
There is such a thing as decency, you know? They plainly choose ignore the pain of consumers caused by their actions, which I find to be really unfair.
One could also think if it this way. If one really wants to make money with a "virtual store" on EBay or any other auction site, one could easily register at a Chamber of Commerce, buy stock from a distributor while anticipating which figures are shortpacked and thus become rare, then sell it.
I can live with that, as everyone gets an equal chance of getting what one wants: business for "scalpers" yet the larger companies can still have stock for consumers (kids and collectors) to buy. That's how capitalistic economy is intended to work, folks.
Finally, I'll close with this, a scalper's nightmare:
MP Megatron: banned from EBay from Lil-Formers. Replace the tag-line with "re-sale of merchandise by non-store owning individuals outlawed".
fenrir72 wrote:@ Soundwave99.
In a true capitalist economy, Law of Supply and Demand, survival of the fittest. That is as much true but........if you manipulate the supply to favor your own interest? Is that true capitalism?
That's what scalpers do, more like a "cartel" (OPEC comes in mind)who fix the supply and the price.
What I would like is for example:
RTS Windcharger compared to the other sucky figs. People will buy WC while the other shelf warms. Under normal conditions (okay some collectors buy two of a figure)if there is too much demand for a particular item, the manufacturer, Hasbro,would then make more to offset the demand at least until the mold eventually breaks ( that was the case with G1 Prime )there was a demand and Hasbro continued to answer it.
In cases like scalpers, there is an "artificial" demand/shortage due to their machinations. Well that ain't capitalism for sure......more like unbridled greed.
Soundwave99 wrote:GoldRabbit,
Certain people get away with insider trading. It just depends who you are and how much money/power you have. Like I said before, life isn't fair.
I'm not completely sure what you are getting at. Are you trying to say we should have laws against selling something for more than you paid?
Soundwave99 wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:First PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. No name calling PERIOD. I am interested in getting fellow collectors opinions on scalping
Through the years I have heard all the reasons why people buy collectables, then turn around slap "rare" on them and sell them on ebay.
The one reason that always rubbed me the wrong way is:
"I sell the extra to pay for my toy collecting habit"
I say this, you want to pay for your habit, then get another job to support it. I have worked ONE job and still manage to swing by with what I want to buy. Do not rob other collectors the joy of waling into a store and finding the new latest and greatest toys.
Another one is "oh I am helping out fellow collectors"
No. Sorry but this does not work, you want to "help" then sell them for what it cost you to pick them up. Don't factor gas because to be honest it does not matter if gas is $4 a gallon or $2, you went to the store to pick up something for yourself and just so happened to picked up extras. If gas it too much for you then simply stop collecting and you won't waste gas driving around to look for toys.
Please discuss this and keep it civil as I am interested in others views on the subject.
I'm going to be blunt here. I just don't understand this kind of thinking. We live in a capitalist society here in the U.S., people are free to make money any legal way they see fit. Why do you think it's ok for you to tell others how they should earn money to pay for a toy collecting habit or anything else for that matter?
Also, there is no right to walk into a store and find the latest and greatest anything. If you want that experience, you better beat other people to it, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
I'm not trying to be rude, just giving my opinion like you asked for.
Skyfire-5 wrote:To me, these toys are meant to be found on shelves for a price affordable
Cyber Bishop wrote:Soundwave99 wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:First PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. No name calling PERIOD. I am interested in getting fellow collectors opinions on scalping
Through the years I have heard all the reasons why people buy collectables, then turn around slap "rare" on them and sell them on ebay.
The one reason that always rubbed me the wrong way is:
"I sell the extra to pay for my toy collecting habit"
I say this, you want to pay for your habit, then get another job to support it. I have worked ONE job and still manage to swing by with what I want to buy. Do not rob other collectors the joy of waling into a store and finding the new latest and greatest toys.
Another one is "oh I am helping out fellow collectors"
No. Sorry but this does not work, you want to "help" then sell them for what it cost you to pick them up. Don't factor gas because to be honest it does not matter if gas is $4 a gallon or $2, you went to the store to pick up something for yourself and just so happened to picked up extras. If gas it too much for you then simply stop collecting and you won't waste gas driving around to look for toys.
Please discuss this and keep it civil as I am interested in others views on the subject.
I'm going to be blunt here. I just don't understand this kind of thinking. We live in a capitalist society here in the U.S., people are free to make money any legal way they see fit. Why do you think it's ok for you to tell others how they should earn money to pay for a toy collecting habit or anything else for that matter?
Also, there is no right to walk into a store and find the latest and greatest anything. If you want that experience, you better beat other people to it, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
I'm not trying to be rude, just giving my opinion like you asked for.
And I am going to be blunt, you want to have a hobby, then make enough money to support it, do not make someone else pay for your hobby.
For example, my brother in law is big into accessorizing his truck and he has put thousands into it.. Now at his regular job he does not make enough to pay the bills and make due with his hobby so he HAS A SECOND JOB TO PAY FOR HIS HOBBY, and this job does not interfere with anyone else's hobby.
Maybe I come from the "old school" values of you want something WORK for it. Back in my Star Wars collecting days I have had scalpers PAY TRU employees to hold cases in the back for them till they could pick through them. Now how is this "fair" and "capitalist"?
Maybe I am too honest of a person to understand this.
And again it comes to VALUES..Skyfire-5 wrote:To me, these toys are meant to be found on shelves for a price affordable
Why not?
gambit020480 wrote:If you want a Ipod, expect to pay 2x retail over another MP3. If you want a Pizza King pizza, expect to pay 2x over Pizza Hut or Papa John's. And if you want a RTS Grapple, expect to pay 2x more than a DOTM Megatron. Its the American way!
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:gambit020480 wrote:If you want a Ipod, expect to pay 2x retail over another MP3. If you want a Pizza King pizza, expect to pay 2x over Pizza Hut or Papa John's. And if you want a RTS Grapple, expect to pay 2x more than a DOTM Megatron. Its the American way!
The last example is moot, because they were intended to be roughly the same price, coming from the same company, being in same Size Class, plus the price is only jacked up in the aftermarket. In other words, it's a different kind of animal.
Burn wrote:robofreak doesn't joke. He's all about the serious business of the internet.
ItIsHim wrote:My closet is filled to the brim with plastic children's toys. For myself
gambit020480 wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Soundwave99 wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:First PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. No name calling PERIOD. I am interested in getting fellow collectors opinions on scalping
Through the years I have heard all the reasons why people buy collectables, then turn around slap "rare" on them and sell them on ebay.
The one reason that always rubbed me the wrong way is:
"I sell the extra to pay for my toy collecting habit"
I say this, you want to pay for your habit, then get another job to support it. I have worked ONE job and still manage to swing by with what I want to buy. Do not rob other collectors the joy of waling into a store and finding the new latest and greatest toys.
Another one is "oh I am helping out fellow collectors"
No. Sorry but this does not work, you want to "help" then sell them for what it cost you to pick them up. Don't factor gas because to be honest it does not matter if gas is $4 a gallon or $2, you went to the store to pick up something for yourself and just so happened to picked up extras. If gas it too much for you then simply stop collecting and you won't waste gas driving around to look for toys.
Please discuss this and keep it civil as I am interested in others views on the subject.
I'm going to be blunt here. I just don't understand this kind of thinking. We live in a capitalist society here in the U.S., people are free to make money any legal way they see fit. Why do you think it's ok for you to tell others how they should earn money to pay for a toy collecting habit or anything else for that matter?
Also, there is no right to walk into a store and find the latest and greatest anything. If you want that experience, you better beat other people to it, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
I'm not trying to be rude, just giving my opinion like you asked for.
And I am going to be blunt, you want to have a hobby, then make enough money to support it, do not make someone else pay for your hobby.
For example, my brother in law is big into accessorizing his truck and he has put thousands into it.. Now at his regular job he does not make enough to pay the bills and make due with his hobby so he HAS A SECOND JOB TO PAY FOR HIS HOBBY, and this job does not interfere with anyone else's hobby.
Maybe I come from the "old school" values of you want something WORK for it. Back in my Star Wars collecting days I have had scalpers PAY TRU employees to hold cases in the back for them till they could pick through them. Now how is this "fair" and "capitalist"?
Maybe I am too honest of a person to understand this.
And again it comes to VALUES..Skyfire-5 wrote:To me, these toys are meant to be found on shelves for a price affordable
Why not?
Dude, seriously....market price is not "dishonest". Someone who sells a premium product for premium price does not make it dishonest. If that is true Apple is dishonest for selling an iPad of 2x the cost of a labtop. McDonalds is dishonest for selling you a $1 double cheese when it cost .40 to make. Having all the prices the same on everything is not the attributes of a free market society. No offense, but that is communist.
If you want a Ipod, expect to pay 2x retail over another MP3. If you want a Pizza King pizza, expect to pay 2x over Pizza Hut or Papa John's. And if you want a RTS Grapple, expect to pay 2x more than a DOTM Megatron. Its the American way!
robofreak wrote:Aftermarket doesn't always hold sway either. Another used on this site is hooking me up with RTS Grappel and Lugnut for what he paid for them after raiding a few Ross stores.
I'm in this conversation very late, and I do have a love hate relationship with scalpers.
Occasionally, if I find something whether it's at a discount retailer, thrift store, or retail and know I can make more money off it, then I'll do it. I usually only do it with items I want though.
I personally don't like scalpers as they are hunting while I am hunting. I had one instance where a guy grabbed a figure just as my hand was going to grab it and he told me to have fun on ebay. later on while I was shopping, I saw he was still in the store with his cart of figures and the idiot left it unattended. I just walked over and grabbed it, went through check out and left.
Yeah, I have no patience for scalping, and I really have no patience for people that are rude like that. I wouldn't have done it had he not snached the figure out of my hand.
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