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this one is interesting as well. albeit a bit less complex than what i expected, this is still an interesting transformation, particularly with how the backpack folded up, it really utilize the hollow parts. from what i see so far, bee and megs seems to be the winner on this line, so those two are the one that i will be picking up.
These Deluxes haven't been appearing for pre-order on any UK websites I often use, the only Cyberverse products In Demand Toys stock right now are Spark Armour Cheetor and Warrior Slipstream, and Kapow Toys only have Slipstream (is that figure seriously THAT popular?). Optimus and Megatron are on UK Amazon for £20.99 each, so I may just get them from there.
SiegeFan wrote:I'm so confused now when I thought I was certain... Just to check, in the UK at least we have 'ultra class' and these deluxes look to be a very similar size. Is that what these are?
No, these Deluxes are standard Siege-level deluxes.
also found Bumblebee and ordered him
Thanks, size comparison is what made me question it. Some folks have been using the wrong terms when talking about them and I got all turned around!
I'll consider them but maybe in a sale. And I'd like my own look at the blast effects to see if I want them for WFC figs.
Christmas is a week away!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since I do sell part of my collection on the side, I have been bombarded by people buying from me for last minute Christmas presents, especially since the shelves only have a small subset of all the characters the brand has to offer. However, most requests and questions have been parents and since all I have to sell is more collector oriented pieces, I don't have anything for 4-5 year olds.
Parents seem to ask for the same thing, a big durable toy that can transform, look good and yet not be too difficult and not too expensive. So basically, a toy from the Cybertron era back when there was no divide between collectors and kids, but of course a toy that can still be found on the shelves right now. And I recommend the same toy each time, so much so that I thought of writing this quick editorial to help any parent who is still looking for a nice big Transformer toy for their kids.
My pick is Cyberverse Ultimate Class Grimlock. I have written a whole review about him and how awesome it is for a kid's toy.
No other toy aimed at kids even comes close to being as awesome as him. He is very imposing and really commands the space he takes. While he is light, the plastic feels strong and durable. The transformation is not too difficult but interesting and there are even surprises in it for people who know the typical Grimlock conversion inside and out. He has decent poseability and fine gimmicks that don't get in the way. Plus, he is the size of a leader class toy, almost 9 inches tall and only costs $30 USD ($40 CAD).
And he transforms into a Dinosaur, something still awesome for kids to discover. So, if you are a parent with a kid who loves Dinosaurs and Robots and you want to introduce Transformers to them and also want to wow them with a big toy while not breaking the bank, this is the one for you.
Here are some links, where you can still get him in time for Christmas, followed by more images of the toy.
Munkky wrote:These Deluxes haven't been appearing for pre-order on any UK websites I often use, the only Cyberverse products In Demand Toys stock right now are Spark Armour Cheetor and Warrior Slipstream, and Kapow Toys only have Slipstream (is that figure seriously THAT popular?). Optimus and Megatron are on UK Amazon for £20.99 each, so I may just get them from there.
Most online stores for collectors have been ignoring Cyberverse so when these new collector friendly toys came out, it was in their blind spot. Only hasbro (through Google) is offering these toys for order online in the US. So general retail stores, like Amazon UK, will really be your best bet.
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william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?
william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
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Definitely concur with this as an idea to give to a young transformer fan or like it was mentioned, if someone likes Dinosaurs. The minute I saw Grimlock in the store, I was impressed and love him. Unfortunately, while I do not collect this line, this one definitely makes it temping has I continue to see him on the shelves in stores.
SGMLordMirage wrote:Definitely concur with this as an idea to give to a young transformer fan or like it was mentioned, if someone likes Dinosaurs. The minute I saw Grimlock in the store, I was impressed and love him. Unfortunately, while I do not collect this line, this one definitely makes it temping has I continue to see him on the shelves in stores.
You could do like what I did and just purchase him without needing to purchase others in the line. And he's G1 enough that he can fit in other collections or just look good on a shelf. And since he's plenty enough on the shelves and online, he's easier to get at a sale price (like 20% off at target). That makes it really good value for less than $25. he feels like a kid's toy but a good kid's toy, like the Cybertron toys of yore (I really miss that line).
carytheone wrote:
william-james88 wrote:"Holiday buyiers guide"
I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?
Anyway, cool concept! I like it
That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).
About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.
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Another thanks on chuck for his review of Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe Bumblebee.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Following up on Megatron is Bumblebee, while not as good as Megatron, it's probably the best deluxe class Bumblebee I've handled. My one complaint with the figure is that the wings can bump into the shoulder pads and limit arm articulation, small potatoes honestly as you can adjust things to your liking. Overall, this is a very, very solid figure and worth the purchase.
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I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?
Anyway, cool concept! I like it
That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).
About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.
I think a lot of the people here are parents Realistically I don't know how the site's google analytics work or how effective it is at getting non TF fans to visit. But I will say as a fairly informed TF fan that doesn't have kids (but has a nephew), it is a good source of info to get a quick recommendation for the younger audience. I'd have no idea what to recommend to a parent.
I enjoy reading the holiday buyers guides a lot of the video game sites put out. Sometimes you'll find a hidden gem you didn't even know existed.
william-james88 wrote:I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).
This is why I love Transformers. The toys themselves encourage problem solving. Even if your method of solving the problem is finding a video on Youtube and follow along. As a computer guy, a lot of my job is find stuff on google and repeating lol.
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My deluxes are supposed to arrive tomorrow, I am ready to see them!
I also agree about the Ultimate Grimlock. That toy is fantastic, I love it. It is worth getting as the lone Cyberverse toy you ever get.
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william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!
Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.
Aren't they priced the same as Siege Deluxes though? Some of them are being sold in excess of £20 so that price for deluxe Cyberverse is right in line with the other lines. I mean if shops like Symths get them in, they'll likely go on sakeyat some point.
william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.
These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.
That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.
Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.
Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!
Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.
Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?
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ZeroWolf wrote:Aren't they priced the same as Siege Deluxes though? Some of them are being sold in excess of £20 so that price for deluxe Cyberverse is right in line with the other lines. I mean if shops like Symths get them in, they'll likely go on sakeyat some point.
Most of my deluxes have been around £17 online from multiple stores, that's where I've bought almost all my deluxes. Even Smyths sell newer ones like Refraktor and Crosshairs for £17 (if you can find them), with voyagers hitting around £24 or under depending on age and availability.
william-james88 wrote:Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?
IME...
Cyberverse Ultra Class = £20 RRP short of a sale
Siege Deluxes = £17 or thereabouts both online and in Smyths and the like
The Amazon £21 price isn't far from £23/24 Siege Voyagers, unfortunately. And that's only with the recent price increases across the whole IP. That's crazy for something that small, IMO.
And even Earthrise Voyagers have stayed around £22-24 pre-orders online and in stores.
I think you need to look at them more then just the size. Remember deluxe has a meaning beyond size. I think they're priced right. In a funny sense this is similar to the argument over Siege Astrotrain being voyager sized but sold at leader Class price point.
ZeroWolf wrote:I think you need to look at them more then just the size. Remember deluxe has a meaning beyond size. I think they're priced right. In a funny sense this is similar to the argument over Siege Astrotrain being voyager sized but sold at leader Class price point.
It's the whole shebang in my terms. Size and/or price together I'm not really fussed about, like I'll happily buy ER Cliffy, for instance.
But when I'm buying an entire line in all likelihood at £21 each and they're not as good as a more detailed (in every way) £17 Siege figure... It's incredibly tough to justify.
In this instance it comes down to sheer value and I just don't think these have it. At least the insane £20 for Ultra class figs gave you shelf presence even if construction was dire.
Don't forget though that some of the plastic in the price goes to the build a figure parts as well, giving us the only figure of Maccadams we're going to get. Of course that's more of feature for fans of Cyberverse who know who macadam is of course
Another factor is that Siege figures are actually underpriced from what the rrp is. Though I remember the days when we complained when the rrp was just £15. Ah economics you're a harsh mistress.
Realistically I don't know how the site's google analytics work or how effective it is at getting non TF fans to visit. But I will say as a fairly informed TF fan that doesn't have kids (but has a nephew), it is a good source of info to get a quick recommendation for the younger audience. I'd have no idea what to recommend to a parent.
