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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:35 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?
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if Sabreblade doesnt know who it is.... what chance do we have?

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:37 pm

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shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?
guys....
if Sabreblade doesnt know who it is.... what chance do we have?
I see what you did there. ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:45 pm

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Hey guys, I think I missed something but are we even sure that the picture on the poster represents a toy that will be made? I took it as a promo for the upcoming poll where they can show what we can expect to get from our surveys (ie: decos to use to make anew combiner).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:49 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, I think I missed something but are we even sure that the picture on the poster represents a toy that will be made? I took it as a promo for the upcoming poll where they can show what we can expect to get from our surveys (ie: decos to use to make anew combiner).
Well, the poll that produced Windblade produced an entirely new mold, so there's that precedence that the new poll might also generate completely new molds as well, rather than mere redecos/remolds of preexisting molds.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:58 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, I think I missed something but are we even sure that the picture on the poster represents a toy that will be made? I took it as a promo for the upcoming poll where they can show what we can expect to get from our surveys (ie: decos to use to make anew combiner).
Well, the poll that produced Windblade produced an entirely new mold, so there's that precedence that the new poll might also generate completely new molds as well, rather than mere redecos/remolds of preexisting molds.


Ok, but on the other hand, can we be positive that the picture means we will be getting a toy of that?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Gallifreyan Autobot » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:59 pm

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shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?
guys....
if Sabreblade doesnt know who it is.... what chance do we have?

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:00 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, I think I missed something but are we even sure that the picture on the poster represents a toy that will be made? I took it as a promo for the upcoming poll where they can show what we can expect to get from our surveys (ie: decos to use to make anew combiner).
Well, the poll that produced Windblade produced an entirely new mold, so there's that precedence that the new poll might also generate completely new molds as well, rather than mere redecos/remolds of preexisting molds.


Ok, but on the other hand, can we be positive that the picture means we will be getting a toy of that?
At this point, we're just speculating what it could be.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby prjkt » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:16 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?

Doesn't mean they can't reapply (unless someone else got there first) or pull a Trailcutter with a slight name change
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:19 pm

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prjkt wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?

Doesn't mean they can't reapply (unless someone else got there first) or pull a Trailcutter with a slight name change


"autobot thunderclash"
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:23 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby prjkt » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:29 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, I think I missed something but are we even sure that the picture on the poster represents a toy that will be made? I took it as a promo for the upcoming poll where they can show what we can expect to get from our surveys (ie: decos to use to make anew combiner).
Well, the poll that produced Windblade produced an entirely new mold, so there's that precedence that the new poll might also generate completely new molds as well, rather than mere redecos/remolds of preexisting molds.


Ok, but on the other hand, can we be positive that the picture means we will be getting a toy of that?

That made sense

Windblade was a single figure, where as this one will be at least 5-6 figures, we may not get a whole new design as we did with Windblade, but choose from a selection of designs for the limbs/gorse (Tank, Jet, Car, Helicopter, truck etc)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:29 pm

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prjkt wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?

Doesn't mean they can't reapply (unless someone else got there first) or pull a Trailcutter with a slight name change
Its status is still currently listed as "Cancelled". If they had plans for a new Thunderclash, it'd be wise for Hasbro to have reapplied as soon as possible.

We'll see if they do go for a new name, but I'd imagine that the normal one wouldn't be too hard for them to reapply for.

Still though, one thing that stands out to me about this possibly be a new Thunderclash is its lack of distinctly Thunderclash-y colors. There's no blue or yellow on the head, which were prominent aspects of Thunderclash's head. If anyone, I'd think this were a new Nova Prime, but the Club making theirs just rules about that out completely.

For all we know, this might just simply be a special-colored version of Optimus himself. Like "Arctic Tundra Optimus Prime" or something.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:31 pm

Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?



My strongest feeling is that it's a powered up Ultra Magnus. I really do think the Leader Class Ultra Magnus will be a repaint of Voyager CW Optimus with a trailer that combines with him to make a roughly leader sized, 'normal' looking Ultra Magnus, but the core Voyager-class Ultra Magnus can still combine with other Transformers to make a much bigger bot - maybe an avatar for Nexus Prime?

Hasbro will be pushing the four levels of play - he's a transport that can carry four deluxe class cars in his trailer, then he's a voyager-class robot with big honking Deceptiscrappin' fists, then he combines with his trailer to properly enforce the Tyrest accord, and when the chips are down, he ditches the trailer and combines with the Autobots he was carrying around to begin with. (It means CW Magnus's trailer components are probably just tossed aside unused, but that's what R.I.D. firetruck Prime did with most of his extra components when he combined with R.I.D. Ultra Magnus.)

We've seen those listings for the various Autobots we presume are repaints of Stunticons and others, but we haven't really been considering how Hasbro would cross-sell them. Prime's been released right here at the beginning, and will likely be long gone from the shelves by the time Prowl, etc., show up, so who would they market them combining with?

Ultra Magnus.

I really think leader-class Magnus will be a white prime + trailer, but I also think we're all going to be really surprised by how the trailer combines with him. I don't think it will use the existing combination gimmick in the way any of us were initially expecting (e.g., the supermode head won't become Ultra Magnus's head, Ultra Magnus's head will somehow come from the trailer).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:34 pm

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Caelus wrote:(It means CW Magnus's trailer components are probably just tossed aside unused, but that's what R.I.D. firetruck Prime did with most of his extra components when he combined with R.I.D. Ultra Magnus.)
Thankfully those extra pieces could still form the Trans Rebair.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:36 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:40 pm

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Caelus wrote:My strongest feeling is that it's a powered up Ultra Magnus. I really do think the Leader Class Ultra Magnus will be a repaint of Voyager CW Optimus with a trailer that combines with him to make a roughly leader sized, 'normal' looking Ultra Magnus, but the core Voyager-class Ultra Magnus can still combine with other Transformers to make a much bigger bot - maybe an avatar for Nexus Prime?

HASBRO. putting the ULTRA back in ULTRA MAGNUS.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby prjkt » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:40 pm

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prjkt wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?

Doesn't mean they can't reapply (unless someone else got there first) or pull a Trailcutter with a slight name change


"autobot thunderclash"

Autocrash Thunderbot?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:58 pm

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Perhaps the picture was slightly miss colored so the "proper" Ultra Prime isn't revealed yet.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:59 pm

prjkt wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
prjkt wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?

Doesn't mean they can't reapply (unless someone else got there first) or pull a Trailcutter with a slight name change


"autobot thunderclash"

Autocrash Thunderbot?


Thundercrash wouldn't be bad.

I was going to suggest Thundercash, but I'm pretty sure that was the bot Sky-byte was opening for at Maccadam's. (Rough guy, all around - shot a mech in Kaon just to watch him die.)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:17 am

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I was going to suggest Thundercash, but I'm pretty sure that was the bot Sky-byte was opening for at Maccadam's. (Rough guy, all around - shot a mech in Kaon just to watch him die.)


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby JasonCanty79 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:27 am

Caelus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:About the white Optimus redeco, it can't be Thunderclash either since Hasbro's Trademark for that name expired last year on October 31st.

So it's not Ultra Magnus, Nova Prime, or Thunderclash. Just what on Earth could it be?



My strongest feeling is that it's a powered up Ultra Magnus. I really do think the Leader Class Ultra Magnus will be a repaint of Voyager CW Optimus with a trailer that combines with him to make a roughly leader sized, 'normal' looking Ultra Magnus, but the core Voyager-class Ultra Magnus can still combine with other Transformers to make a much bigger bot - maybe an avatar for Nexus Prime?

Hasbro will be pushing the four levels of play - he's a transport that can carry four deluxe class cars in his trailer, then he's a voyager-class robot with big honking Deceptiscrappin' fists, then he combines with his trailer to properly enforce the Tyrest accord, and when the chips are down, he ditches the trailer and combines with the Autobots he was carrying around to begin with. (It means CW Magnus's trailer components are probably just tossed aside unused, but that's what R.I.D. firetruck Prime did with most of his extra components when he combined with R.I.D. Ultra Magnus.)

We've seen those listings for the various Autobots we presume are repaints of Stunticons and others, but we haven't really been considering how Hasbro would cross-sell them. Prime's been released right here at the beginning, and will likely be long gone from the shelves by the time Prowl, etc., show up, so who would they market them combining with?

Ultra Magnus.

I really think leader-class Magnus will be a white prime + trailer, but I also think we're all going to be really surprised by how the trailer combines with him. I don't think it will use the existing combination gimmick in the way any of us were initially expecting (e.g., the supermode head won't become Ultra Magnus's head, Ultra Magnus's head will somehow come from the trailer).



THats a cool idea. I had hoped some 3Rd party would do the same to make CW Optimus into Something similar into PM prime or Energon Op. ANd then a Black Repaint for Motormaster/Nemesis Prime (if they gave him black Prime heads as an Addon). As for White Optimus Not being Thunderclash. Its so weird as CW Motormaster/Optimus' truck mode and transformation are VERY Thunderclash/Mechine wars Prime-y. And the Supermode's Closed Chest is VERY similar to the unproduced Turbomaster Super Leader Hyperdrive. Also the Stunticons would make great Turbomasters with recolors and new heads. I wonder with such clear Thunderclash looking alt mode, we're not getting a TClash upgrade. :/

Would love to see the Areobots recolored into Skyquake and the Europe Preditor Jets, and their combined mode could BE SCRASH. Heh heh.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby JasonCanty79 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:16 am

This Line WOULD be a good place to have an Appearance by Nexus Prime.

Oh man Would love to see a Last Stand of the Wreckers Combiner recolored from Defensor (with Pyro recolored from Hotspot), and Wrecker Ruination Recolored from the Combaticons.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MemphisR56 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:11 am

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Thats just crazy enough to work.

If the white bot is thunderclash though, and i personally think it will be a promo pic for the fan built combiner, I bet the Gestalt' name is hyperdrive. Nevet completed turbomaster leader, who's only artwork we've seen is simply lineart. I.e. He's already all white.

Side musing though, how awesome would a turbomaster scorch look made from the generations trailcutter mold?
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Postby JasonCanty79 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:15 am

Yeah I've been talking to Ben Yee and Azim for weeks now at how CW Prime's Supermode LOOKS alot like Hyperdrive. ANd with the Normal mode and truck form being very Thunderclash like, I thought it would be cool that the reason why we never saw Hyperdrive is because he had to be formed out of the Turbomasters to summon him. Sort of how TFCC's Nexus Prime Only exsistes when the 5 other robots give up their individual will to form Nexus Prime.
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