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Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

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Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Richter » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:57 am

The Universe of the Transformers is vast, and populated by many characters. Their universe is a large tapestry, made up of the stories and points of view of countless experiences that serve the larger whole.

These are some of those stories. This is:
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A PALE REFLECTION

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:58 pm

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Wow, great story. And how true.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Tekka » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:04 pm

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I have to say, Ultra Magnus never really struck me as the whiny, jealous type.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Predaprince » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:09 pm

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Great story and art, but it seems to fit more with RiD rather than G1.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Convotron » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:33 am

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Tekka wrote:I have to say, Ultra Magnus never really struck me as the whiny, jealous type.


I agree. I'm not up on the comic universe backstory stuff(getting caught up slowly but surely) but I like the version of UM that is a loyal soldier and reluctant leader. I'm not for making UM someone with a super inferiority complex.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby cybercat » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:03 pm

All continuity issues aside (as y'all have started), as a oneshot, it had a solid theme, a good story arc, and actual character development. Nice. And maybe there's a fine, but important distinction between whiney and...I don't know, that humiliating struggle one must go through when faced with one's failings? He seemed very believeable to me, and I read his monologue as frustration with himself as much as Prime, which is quite a bit different than a whine.

Prime is always hard to get a read on--he's so 'good' that he's almost untouchable, unreal. I imagine MOST Autobots would feel 'less than' compared to Optimus.

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Convotron » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:26 pm

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hellkitty wrote:Prime is always hard to get a read on--he's so 'good' that he's almost untouchable, unreal. I imagine MOST Autobots would feel 'less than' compared to Optimus.

HK, I know I would.


That's true! I considered mentioning similarity to Superman in my last post.

I don't mind UM being more than just a bland soldier character but I'd like to see him show legitimate animosity towards OP for something more solid. In the strip, he comes off as "Optimus is SO much better than me! WHY can't I be like him?". He's whiny.

Optimus being as good as he is should be inspiring and not cause others to feel less than they are.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby shonenfan4 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:18 am

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Convotron wrote:
Tekka wrote:I have to say, Ultra Magnus never really struck me as the whiny, jealous type.


I agree. I'm not up on the comic universe backstory stuff(getting caught up slowly but surely) but I like the version of UM that is a loyal soldier and reluctant leader. I'm not for making UM someone with a super inferiority complex.


Srly, we don't need another Starscream-like TF on the Autobots. :P
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Convotron » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:51 am

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shonenfan4 wrote:Srly, we don't need another Starscream-like TF on the Autobots. :P


Oh...you've gone and done it now.

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby cybercat » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:49 am

shonenfan4 wrote:
Convotron wrote:
Tekka wrote:I have to say, Ultra Magnus never really struck me as the whiny, jealous type.


I agree. I'm not up on the comic universe backstory stuff(getting caught up slowly but surely) but I like the version of UM that is a loyal soldier and reluctant leader. I'm not for making UM someone with a super inferiority complex.


Srly, we don't need another Starscream-like TF on the Autobots. :P



Hrm. See, that's not my read on Starscream at all. *INferiority* complex? Are you kidding me? If anything, he has a narcissistic streak. Sure, he whines, but that's part of his charm. :P

Even at his whingiest (cough cough Armada) he still thought he knew better than everyone else, Autobot OR Decepticon. That's not what Ultra-Magnus is experiencing here, at all.

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Blurrz » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:09 am

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Ultra Emomagnus is meant for the RiD era.

However, regardless of that, this comic and storyline is just moving and pretty epic.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Samsonator » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:04 pm

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I like it, it actually bears some small similarity to the Magnus backstory I had written for an alternate-universe comic I was writing!
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Razorclaw0000 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:33 pm

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Obligatory he "just can't deal with that now" comment.

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Megatron Wolf » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:47 pm

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Convotron » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:06 pm

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Razorclaw0000 wrote:Obligatory he "just can't deal with that now" comment.

Someone had to.


Haha, I was surprised no one made that reference until you did.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby primeoptimus » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:08 am

ultra magnus:
the first shameless repaint that doesn't like being a shameless repaint

but yeah,i agree.this story(as good as it is) fits more with the rid magnus,the more immature one than the old g1 robert stack one that we all like the character for

but yeah,as good of a mosaic it is,i just can't picture g1 magnus saying/thinking something like that

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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Convotron » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:37 am

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Has the "G1 armourless/white Optimus Prime looking Ultra Magnus" ever had any official appearance in the official comics? I'm more familiar with more current appearances such as Spotlight: Ultra Magnus. I'm just wondering if anything like this take on the character has been done in the comics.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby cannonfodder4000 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:14 am

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i thought this was going to be about reflector :lol:
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Tekka » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:26 am

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cannonfodder4000 wrote:i thought this was going to be about reflector :lol:

That could work. Reflector could be crying about how Laserbeak does every facet of his job better than him.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby M3Gr1ml0ck » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:07 am

Convotron wrote:Has the "G1 armourless/white Optimus Prime looking Ultra Magnus" ever had any official appearance in the official comics?


Yes, once, in Dreamwave's "War & Peace" by James McDonough and Pat Lee.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Convotron » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:12 am

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M3Gr1ml0ck wrote:
Convotron wrote:Has the "G1 armourless/white Optimus Prime looking Ultra Magnus" ever had any official appearance in the official comics?


Yes, once, in Dreamwave's "War & Peace" by James McDonough and Pat Lee.


Excellent! Thank you very much. I'll have to track that down.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic: "A Pale Reflection"

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:51 am

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How did I know this would be about Ultra Magnus? Even before looking at the comic, I just knew.
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