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bodrock wrote:I'm most interested in Quake! I'll also get Repugnus, Shuffler....most likely Kup and Perceptor....plan to wait for Overlord. It's a maybe on Broadside....but wow, so soon!

Not sure what to make of Quake and Krok. Krok is fine, will most likely be a cool update to Action Master Krok. But making Quake a Headmaster just takes away from what made him unique. I'm not a fan of everyone becoming a Headmaster.

I still stand by my initial thoughts about Titans Return that the entire line would have been better have to have figured out how to do Powermasters, Targetmasters and Headmasters right, with a unified size for the Titan Masters. Not a fan of a double Targetmaster like Quake being turned into a Headmaster ... nor would I be a fan of Mindwipe being turned into a Targetmaster. I'm all for updating characters to suit a purpose, but at this point it's just kind of lazy that everyone gets the same gimmick. Oh well, a little late at this stage in the game.

I do like the aesthetics of most of this line, just want to keep the core characters as their original types for the most part.

I'd be much more interested in Krok, like, several years ago had the Club not already made, like, the more perfect updated Krok figure ever.

Has everyone just forgotten the original rumours from months ago which gave this exact list of deluxes and listed Krok and Quake as redecoes of Skullsmasher and Hardhead respectively?

I think Bumblebee will sell OK - but I think it's not a great idea to have the same mould in the same wave in two colours - it's bad enough when the repaints are like that in subsequent wave that likely will share shelf space anyway.

I would much much much rather of had Eject or Frenzy in that slot heck even Rosanna or Flipsides would have been nice. Glit might have gone nicely with Soundwave too.

Rumble seems to sell OK so I can see people wanting the pair.
It seems kind of dismissive or odd behaviour as the Blue robot in the cartoon is the more recognised yet they went with the least seen colour scheme of red (I don't personally mind RIR/FIB however) but then Rewind is inspired by the Comic alone as a reason for making him at least and thus it seems Hasbro is being dismissive of Eject (not that there was much of either of them in the cartoon).

I hope they will slot some of those missing data pads in some giftsets in the coming months.

Look like Wave 4 is a bit of a filler wave however.

leokearon wrote:Krok being a Skullcruncher retool is a bit of a mix bag for me, on the one hand he didn't seem to transform into an animal, looked more like a spaceship. Only his partner Gatorraider had anything Croc based about him

On the other hand, getting ageneral release Krok would be nice, it might fix the flaws of the Skullcruncher mold and they could say he got a Chimeracon mode.

If that does end up being the case, I've come up with a sort of spaceship mode for the skullcruncher mold

o.supreme wrote:

Kurona wrote:Has everyone just forgotten the original rumours from months ago which gave this exact list of deluxes and listed Krok and Quake as redecoes of Skullsmasher and Hardhead respectively?

I cant forget something I've never read, if there were rumors they must have been missed by multiple fans.

Everyone was talking about them at the time; there was a pretty big discussion about how well Krok being a Skullsmasher redeco would go. I'm just surprised everyone's acting so surprised is all when we've known this for months and talked about it for months.

o.supreme wrote:

Kurona wrote:Has everyone just forgotten the original rumours from months ago which gave this exact list of deluxes and listed Krok and Quake as redecoes of Skullsmasher and Hardhead respectively?

I cant forget something I've never read, if there were rumors they must have been missed by multiple fans.

They were loudly news'd several times on this site, in this thread.

o.supreme wrote:Sorry, I'm not always on this site, or in this thread, and evidently I'm not the only one. Not saying it didn't happen, just that not everybody is 100% on top of new things, all the time.

It's cool; just thought I saw some people who were in those discussions so I was confused.
And I was in a bit of a bad mood, so sorry if I came across entitled or rude or something.

o.supreme wrote:So...as to avoid any future confusion....Are there any additional rumors for future waves other than:

Blitzwing, Octane, & Overlord ?

A lot. Here's one such list:-
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/36329/

Seibertron wrote:

bodrock wrote:I'm most interested in Quake! I'll also get Repugnus, Shuffler....most likely Kup and Perceptor....plan to wait for Overlord. It's a maybe on Broadside....but wow, so soon!

Not sure what to make of Quake and Krok. Krok is fine, will most likely be a cool update to Action Master Krok. But making Quake a Headmaster just takes away from what made him unique. I'm not a fan of everyone becoming a Headmaster.

I still stand by my initial thoughts about Titans Return that the entire line would have been better have to have figured out how to do Powermasters, Targetmasters and Headmasters right, with a unified size for the Titan Masters. Not a fan of a double Targetmaster like Quake being turned into a Headmaster ... nor would I be a fan of Mindwipe being turned into a Targetmaster. I'm all for updating characters to suit a purpose, but at this point it's just kind of lazy that everyone gets the same gimmick. Oh well, a little late at this stage in the game.

I do like the aesthetics of most of this line, just want to keep the core characters as their original types for the most part.

I hear ya, Seibertron! To be completely honest, I skipped out on the original Headmasters because I thought sentient alien robots would never need to pair up with organics, especially as their heads! And don't get me started on the Pretenders - but nowadays, I wish I had picked those subsequent figures up.

From a character/canon perspective, I can't imagine a reason Hot Rod would become a headmaster (targetmaster, sure!), but from a playability standpoint, the Titan Masters are fun to have pilot the deluxe/leader vehicles.....however, if we see Rodimus proper in the next couple of years, I would prefer he be Leader-sized and not be separable from his head.

Having missed out on Krok, Quake, and lots of others after the 1986 movie blew up my childhood, I enjoy Generations - primarily for the poseability and modern take....and I feel ok letting my 3 & 5 year olds play with CHUGs (but not Masterpieces!).

And so... The ever-present Autobot to Decepticon ratio imbalance begins to emerge again...

So Krok and Quake are the two missing figures from Wave 2 2017 as it turns out. And believe it or not, the case breakdowns still follow the general rule as older figures are reintroduced as need be, especially in the smaller Classes (look at CW Blackjack as a consequence of CW Motormaster's running change)

Quake being a new-head retool of Hardhead is pretty much sure, but Krok... expect a Skullcruncher retool and hope for a new mold

Kurona wrote:A lot. Here's one such list:-
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/36329/

Um, I don't remember if it was already stated, but was the Shockwave rumored in that list not the purple one eyed Destron?

Kurona wrote:Has everyone just forgotten the original rumours from months ago which gave this exact list of deluxes and listed Krok and Quake as redecoes of Skullsmasher and Hardhead respectively?

I don't remember the rumours specifying molds and even then how do we know at what stage of the rumour they were added. We won't know till we get images. And speaking of which, it's super odd how Hasbro witheld their reveal for so long.

DestronMirage22 wrote:

Kurona wrote:A lot. Here's one such list:-
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/36329/

Um, I don't remember if it was already stated, but was the Shockwave rumored in that list not the purple one eyed Destron?

Correct. It's a bit of an artifact in that Tidal Wave was listed twice in the original, with different Chinese names (which have yet to be translated!). His Micron Legends name Shockwave is merely to separate the two.

DestronMirage22 wrote:

Kurona wrote:A lot. Here's one such list:-
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/36329/

Um, I don't remember if it was already stated, but was the Shockwave rumored in that list not the purple one eyed Destron?

It could be tidal wave, since that's his name in Japanese

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DestronMirage22 wrote:

Kurona wrote:A lot. Here's one such list:-
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/36329/

Um, I don't remember if it was already stated, but was the Shockwave rumored in that list not the purple one eyed Destron?

Correct. It's a bit of an artifact in that Tidal Wave was listed twice in the original, with different Chinese names (which have yet to be translated!). His Micron Legends name Shockwave is merely to separate the two.

Also considering the source of the list (I know its says Hasbro but...) This may be a mix of Hasbro & TT product considering God Bomber is listed, and as far as we know, that is exclusive to the TT Legends line.

There's a rumored Deluxe class Hasbro version of Godbomber called "Iron Apex" coming in a giftset of other figures.

RAR wrote:

Qwan wrote: Best of both worlds, plus even the vehicle mode looks a little better than default IMO.

Do you have an example image of this in both modes at all ?

Sure do! Sorry it took me a while to get things in order to take the pictures. (Also I haven't worked out how to resize embedded images yet, so sorry for the multiple giant embeds.)

Front is as normal with the 'turned-around-legs' mod, but the panels also help prevent the giant gap between thigh and knee from being so obvious at a glance.

Back shows what I meant with my complicated and vague instructions. Actual heel struts can't be deployed as the panels get in the way, but the spikes work perfectly well and he stands just fine in mild-to-moderate poses.

Panels don't actually clip in anywhere, but they stay in place perfectly fine and don't leave any awful gaps or anything.

Looks like about 45 degrees of knee bend, so not fantastic but better than if the panels were left on right-way-up.

Vehicle mode mostly unaffected, but the fact that the thinner end of the panel points forward now means that the ship's shape from the top is actually a little more streamlined.

It is one of my first digibashes.

Broadside27 wrote:It is one of my first digibashes.

Great job then