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Bummed we can't get a rolling wave change for troop builders. (like the alternate scourge head in Japan). Would love a painted yellow chest Kickback, alternate Gnaw head (or paint scheme), and a Cliffjumper head for ole Chase here.

Seriously. We need Cliffjumper bad. He's first wave toys. In the cartoon right from "more than meets the eye".

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:On that note, some interesting stuff: every store in my area has 3-5 Broadsides put out, along with Hot Rods and Breakaways. No Twinferno, no Triggerhappy.

Breakaways plural? Wow, that means Hasbro knew what they were doing by shortpacking him. Hot Rod being there makes sense too, since he got the extra figure, but that makes sense since he is the hottest figure of the 4 in that set, at least in terms of the characters' popularity.

Was Trigerhappy and Twinferno ever online anywhere like TRU. Walmart, Amazon or HTS? I know Twinferno was on TFSource for 15.99. I thought you got these already.

Bumblebee21 wrote:bodrock i love your memes.

does anyone think godbomber is the wave 6 leader

I am sure he wont be. He only works with the optimus that comes in the exclusive set so the most logical way we would get god bomber would be in a similar set.

Still holding out for that Deathsaurus leader rumour! And the repaint potential of a Leader Dragon figure is YUUGE!

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Va'al wrote:this is the first Legends sighting we have from our community.

Incorrect, scroll down to may 4th,

louisiana-transformers-sightings-t45066s1975.php

Incorrect, the first sighting of this toy was in the philippines.

but this isnt about that, its about the first sighting of this toy in Australia.

StJudeDad wrote:It's really sad when Wal-Mart has a better selection of all Transformers toys right now than TRU does.

Thats been the case all year for me. TRU has more stock but since they voerstock on stuff, there is a longer period of time between restocks and new figures sicne they want to get rid of the old stock. Walmart has low stock so I see it change far more often. They will only have one or two cases, but it will be of the latest stuff.

gothsaurus wrote: In the cartoon right from "more than meets the eye".

So was Hauler, and he has even less toys than Cliffjumper. At least Cliffjumper has a recent generations legends class toy. So you could use that one and this new Bee and have them both on your team looking different. Thats what I aim to do.

Cliffjumper should get his own mold.

yeah, I'm more on board with that (though the shape of that mold is more like him than Bee, actuall). He was a major character.

I wish they'd go nuts at some convention and give us a box set of minibots in different colors. Tap Out, Glyph, Bug Bite, Hubcap, Bumper, and a few new ones.

Kurona wrote:Cliffjumper should get his own mold.

He really should since while Bee remolds make sense it also makes Cliff less of his own character and just a repaint of Bee as far as the toys are concerned.

Honestly? I would love to get a Glyph. There's so few female transformers as is it'd be nice to get one of the ones that DOES exist. And is really adorable

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:Cliffjumper should get his own mold.

He really should since while Bee remolds make sense it also makes Cliff less of his own character and just a repaint of Bee as far as the toys are concerned.

That's probably what lead the "obligatory red Bumblebee redeco" to be turned into Chase. Cliffjumper may get his own mold in the next line, with Hubcap as his retool.

Also, I'm pretty happy that a more obscure character is getting a turn this time. Yeah it's as a new-head redeco, but that opposed to 0 previous toys after his original is pretty good. Cliffjumper's had a ton of updated toys; from the Deluxes in Classics and WFC to the Legends figures in Thrilling 30 and whatnot. I'm glad to let someone else have a turn.

Besides, it is just a head. One can very easily get a shapeways head on the cheap if this is your favourite Bumblebee/Cliffjumper mold and you're desperate for him.

ok. I like the sound of that, JelZe. You gave me a little bit of hope. Heh.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:Cliffjumper should get his own mold.

He really should since while Bee remolds make sense it also makes Cliff less of his own character and just a repaint of Bee as far as the toys are concerned.

That's probably what lead the "obligatory red Bumblebee redeco" to be turned into Chase. Cliffjumper may get his own mold in the next line, with Hubcap as his retool.

I dont follow it much since my phone cant handle it, but does Cliffjumper have a 3D model in earth wars? Its a way we`ve been able to tell if some bots are getting new molds, as was the case with BB (and it seems to be the case with Ratchet).

Yeah, I guess part of the reason for the desperation is wanting a set of minibots from the same series and size class. They are so spaced apart (meaning the odd rare guys like Huffer, etc.) that they don't have a consistent look or height.

BUT I'd love to see a whole set of Throttlebot redux guys, too! Really, I'm loving the past year or so. Hoping Hasbro keeps it up to round out what they're doing with Scorponok, Horrorcons, etc.

Cliffjumper and Bumblebee have different models in Earth Wars, but the funny thing is that neither are directly based on existing toys in robot mode. Both do have elements from the Classics designs, but Cliffjumper's vehicle mode is more based on Bumblebee's Generations Legends toys.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I guess part of the reason for the desperation is wanting a set of minibots from the same series and size class. They are so spaced apart (meaning the odd rare guys like Huffer, etc.) that they don't have a consistent look or height.

yeah but Hasbro proved that their release is completely arbitrary. I had this discussion before but Windcharger being in Combiner Wars and Tailgate being in thrilling 30 doesnt mean they dont scale together. plus, Gnaw has been in the works since thrilling 30 and they are rereleasing Cosmos in Titans return so to me its all proof that we should instead treat Generations as a line instead of the sublines. And in that sense, then we already have a legends cliffjumper

To put images to my words, lets just look at this pic below:



While we see BB and Optimus, its the same molds for T30 Cliffjumper and CW Huffer and Pipes so they end up scaling perfectly together.

Kurona wrote:Also, I'm pretty happy that a more obscure character is getting a turn this time. Yeah it's as a new-head redeco, but that opposed to 0 previous toys after his original is pretty good. Cliffjumper's had a ton of updated toys; from the Deluxes in Classics and WFC to the Legends figures in Thrilling 30 and whatnot. I'm glad to let someone else have a turn.

Besides, it is just a head. One can very easily get a shapeways head on the cheap if this is your favourite Bumblebee/Cliffjumper mold and you're desperate for him.

But what if your people like me who don't buy Shapeways or Third party either due to funds or not being interested in them?

Earth Wars isn't necessarily a great indicator of new toys. Rodimus, Scourge and Galvatron looked nothing like their Titans Return versions and in a stream the dev team even talked about how they were considering making Galvatron a tank. Recent characters like Kup, Hun-Gurr, BW Megatron and Optimus Primal have also had a look at their development where they're shown to almost solely have taken inspiration from the cartoons and a few of their toys in the past rather than anything upcoming. Sometimes we get some surprises like Soundwave right when the game released, but it certainly isn't a hard and fast rule and shouldn't be relied upon.

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:Also, I'm pretty happy that a more obscure character is getting a turn this time. Yeah it's as a new-head redeco, but that opposed to 0 previous toys after his original is pretty good. Cliffjumper's had a ton of updated toys; from the Deluxes in Classics and WFC to the Legends figures in Thrilling 30 and whatnot. I'm glad to let someone else have a turn.

Besides, it is just a head. One can very easily get a shapeways head on the cheap if this is your favourite Bumblebee/Cliffjumper mold and you're desperate for him.

But what if your people like me who don't buy Shapeways or Third party either due to funds or not being interested in them?

Then you could go for the Thrilling 30 or Classics or WFC Cliffjumper. To me the priority is getting out characters who have never got an update before; classic more well-known characters like the original 1984 Minibots are likely to get an update at any time just through the virtue of being more popular and well-known. I'm just happy to get Roadburn instead of something much more predictable.

Kurona wrote:Then you could go for the Thrilling 30 or Classics or WFC Cliffjumper. To me the priority is getting out characters who have never got an update before; classic more well-known characters like the original 1984 Minibots are likely to get an update at any time just through the virtue of being more popular and well-known. I'm just happy to get Roadburn instead of something much more predictable.

Problem for me is that besides being impossible for me to get toys no longer on shelves anymore is that neither of the three fit into my collections.

Thrilling 30 while perfect scale has the wrong head and has a more alien alt mode also the head is tiny compared to most of the other legends figures I have.

Classics also has the wrong head but it's also out of scale with my TR Bee and other minibots.

WFC has the proper head but it's WFC aesthetics don't match with any of my figures and it's too tall for my collection.

While I do agree with your point about how characters who don't have updates should be the priority I also would love to have a perfect update of Cliff at some point since he is one of my faves.

That's fair; I know the pain of toys of characters technically existing but for one reason or another I want a new toy of them. An affordable Sunstorm, a more IDW-accurate Chromedome, a Nautica that actually looks like Nautica rather than one of the most pathetic mold re-uses I've ever seen... this hobby can be painful sometimes.

Va'al wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Va'al wrote:this is the first Legends sighting we have from our community.

Incorrect, scroll down to may 4th,

louisiana-transformers-sightings-t45066s1975.php

Louisiana ain't Australia.

LOL

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:On that note, some interesting stuff: every store in my area has 3-5 Broadsides put out, along with Hot Rods and Breakaways. No Twinferno, no Triggerhappy.

Breakaways plural? Wow, that means Hasbro knew what they were doing by shortpacking him. Hot Rod being there makes sense too, since he got the extra figure, but that makes sense since he is the hottest figure of the 4 in that set, at least in terms of the characters' popularity.

Was Trigerhappy and Twinferno ever online anywhere like TRU. Walmart, Amazon or HTS? I know Twinferno was on TFSource for 15.99. I thought you got these already.

Oh I do have them, I'm just surprised Hot Rod is everywhere and so are multiple Breakaways per location, along with lots of Broadsides.

Those figures were at TFsource, but sold out quick. When I was thinking I would need to cancel my Artfire preorder, I had Brawn and Chase on pre-order as well and actually cancelled them. and then they came in stock and went very quickly and are no longer available.

And i am excited for Throttlebots. They're kinda dorky, but I want the whole case of 6.

Still no sign of wave4 deluxes or legends in Oregon -- just more of wave1, and the movie figures.

Still having fun with what we got, though!

US Titans return hunters can finally breathe a sigh of relief as our very own board member DecepticonFinishLine has found some of the heavily anticipated TR wave four deluxes (Meaning Perceptor, Kup, and Topspin in this case) at Target in Nebraska! These figures have finally hit mass retail, having only previously been seen individually at various Walgreens stores. FinishLine has taken some very nice photos to share, as well!

If you have any toy sightings to post, let us know in our Toy Sighting Database!

Don't judge my diet choices. I eat real food, I promise.

Anyways, there was also a Krok, there. I didn't buy it because I picked it up at a Walgreens in Omaha. No sign of Quake, though.

Kurona wrote:Honestly? I would love to get a Glyph. There's so few female transformers as is it'd be nice to get one of the ones that DOES exist. And is really adorable

If we were to get a Glyph (and hopefully keeping her battle-masked face intact), I'd demand that we'd also get a Tap-Out redecoed from the awesome that is GDO Cliffjumper.