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Kurona wrote:That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?
Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.
Did you guys even look at the pictures? He's clearly taller than Metroplex.
He's not taller than Metroplex's shoulder guns but if you expected that he would be, I don't know what to tell you. They were always going to be the same height from toe to neck, it was the size of the head that would make the difference, and Plex gets to cheat on his height by having some long guns sticking straight up out of his shoulders.
It's a pretty hard call either way - the only thing that would make one taller than the other is the head and they're really close. Depending on how you look at it one can look like it has that slight edge over the other.
fenrir72 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Who's forcing who?
I believe that was you, insisting and guilt-tripping everyone into buying a retooled titan class figure.
I said from the start that we should all buy what we like. I'm only explaining how I (and many other's) feel; since he was revealed, a good portion of the fan base has seemed to feel pretty letdown that this legendary figure is being splurged out as a half-a$$ed retool, and I don't blame them. I was only trying to show how it could've been done differently to better enhance his reception - if it had to be a retool of Metroplex.
Your faulty biased analysis according to me. Just as two "seibertron.com" staff are also subliminally discouraging members to see things their way as in not to buy the Fortmax product.
Open to interpretation from both sides.
Guilt tripping or a logical analysis. I am seeing things in the economical side of things. Economics 101. The most boring, yawn inducing not guilt tripping of all subjects.
That Bot wrote:Kurona wrote:That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?
Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.
Did you guys even look at the pictures? He's clearly taller than Metroplex.
He's not taller than Metroplex's shoulder guns but if you expected that he would be, I don't know what to tell you. They were always going to be the same height from toe to neck, it was the size of the head that would make the difference, and Plex gets to cheat on his height by having some long guns sticking straight up out of his shoulders.
It's a pretty hard call either way - the only thing that would make one taller than the other is the head and they're really close. Depending on how you look at it one can look like it has that slight edge over the other.
They are the same height at the neck, and Fort Max's head is larger (because it doubles as a deluxe class robot). At most, Metroplex's antennae might be slightly higher than Max's horns, but Max is the clear winner.
fenrir72 wrote:Did I mention blindly buying? Again, remove the "emotion" and logically review Economics 101. You'll see what I mean related to how a product gets successfully made and how extrinsic factors may also be the products' downfall.
Stuartmaximus wrote:I know there's a pictorial written review of Fort Max up from someone in Australia, seeing as the figure is now out in retail there, but just wondered if anyone has found a video review of the figure yet?
Mr Skram wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Did I mention blindly buying? Again, remove the "emotion" and logically review Economics 101. You'll see what I mean related to how a product gets successfully made and how extrinsic factors may also be the products' downfall.
There needs to be incentive on both sides of the buyer/seller relationship, if they're going to phone it in on these big expensive releases then I'd rather not contribute to that. I'd rather see those resources go to increasing the quality on their main size classes.
I'm still undecided on Fort Max, not saying he's bad, just that I'm not overly impressed with what we've been shown for features and alt modes. Yeah the double headmaster thing is great but it's like they forgot to design a good portion of the figure. The bones are there for something great but they might have blown it. That said, I'm still hopeful for Max, Trypticon and beyond turning out well. And in all likelyhood I'll probably end up getting it due to an itchy add-to-cart finger.
Evil_the_Nub wrote:That's what I'm thinking. I bet the legs could be positioned upright to look like towers at least.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Even if I find TR Fortmax at 50$, I'll pass.
fenrir72 wrote:... with minus two lost potential customers...
Call me crazy here but as far as Hasbro is concerned, wouldn't that be 3 lost sales? Doesn't buying Takara = not buying Hasbro?fenrir72 wrote:... And I'm getting the TT version btw...
ScottyP wrote:I can't wait for all the "I regret not picking that up" posts two years from now regarding this toy. Like the ones folks make about Metroplex now![]()
I'm still excited for this toy. A three paragraph (being generous here) "review" of mostly complaining and not a lot of pictures ain't gonna get me down on it.
carytheone wrote:Doesn't buying Takara = not buying Hasbro?
"I cannot support buying toys we don't like in the hopes of maybe getting something we do like later." I'm with you here 98%. The 2% of dissent I'd have on it is that in some cases (probably not this one), if something is not-so-great and unsuccessful, it makes it unlikely that similar products will come down the line in the near future regardless of quality. We have a lot of examples of this, and while they're mostly in 'concept' lines like Construct-Bots, there are a few cases like the old Ultra Class or Cyberverse playsets where stuff just gets the axe if it doesn't move. The market tends to take care of itself though, so yes, indeed, you should not buy stuff you don't like.carytheone wrote:Anyway, I get that we need to encourage Hasbro to make toys that we want and nothing speaks louder than money, but I cannot support buying toys we don't like in the hopes of maybe getting something we do like later. Unfortunately by this logic it seems like a lose lose situation; don't buy and they may stop making them, do buy and they may keep making them the same.
I missed Gen Metroplex and that's the only reason I've been considering TR Fort Max. I saw Max in person and he looks super cool and imposing, but I have no attachment to Max like I do Plex. The more I see of Max the less I'm feeling him. Other than being an impressive show piece he just doesn't look or sound like much fun.
I'm keeping an open mind and will wait for more reviews to come out or maybe a good sale.
ScottyP wrote:I can't wait for all the "I regret not picking that up" posts two years from now regarding this toy. Like the ones folks make about Metroplex now![]()
I'm still excited for this toy. A three paragraph (being generous here) "review" of mostly complaining and not a lot of pictures ain't gonna get me down on it.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
itscramtastic wrote:I've been doing some thinking on TR/TL Fortress Maximus lately as I've just spent some money upgrading my Generations Metroplex.
I'm still getting him, and hopefully it'll be the Takara Legends version.
Metroplex to me is "Autobot City" and Fortress is "Battleship Maximus". Both are giant robots, but both will be played with differently, and I can't effing wait for the Japanese sound clips.
Having said that, for the rest of the TR releases I'll probably end up with the Hasbro versions. Spending the money on the big guy to get a pretty big difference in the figure (colors, sword, sounds, maybe even a different "Fortress" deluxe figure head) is worth it to me. On the other figures, I can't justify the extra cost. I think we all know at some point they will have even "more accurate" decos of all of these figures, and I'll be happy with what I get the first time around.
Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw are those Gen Plex upgrades worth getting? I know there's a Sixgun as well as upgrades with a different Plex head ect
Well, my answer is the opposite of Kanrabat, Stuartmaximus!-Kanrabat- wrote:If money is no object and you really want that, go nut. Personally, I will NOT. Paying the price of a full figure (50$? 100$? WTF?!) just for some weapons is silly IMO. I did that mistake twice already and each time I had severe buyer remorse. No more.Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw are those Gen Plex upgrades worth getting? I know there's a Sixgun as well as upgrades with a different Plex head ect
ScottyP wrote:The market tends to take care of itself though, so yes, indeed, you should not buy stuff you don't like.
itscramtastic wrote:Well, my answer is the opposite of Kanrabat, Stuartmaximus!-Kanrabat- wrote:If money is no object and you really want that, go nut. Personally, I will NOT. Paying the price of a full figure (50$? 100$? WTF?!) just for some weapons is silly IMO. I did that mistake twice already and each time I had severe buyer remorse. No more.Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw are those Gen Plex upgrades worth getting? I know there's a Sixgun as well as upgrades with a different Plex head ect
Picked up Generations Metroplex via HTS when he came out in 2012 for $129. Picked up the ReproLabels last year for $30 w/a discount code. Picked up the head upgrade w/mini turrets new from TFSource for $40, and the Before and After Six Sigma for $60 from BBTS (dented box, oh no!!)
Check out the pictures on my collection thread. Totally worth it to me.
Delta Magnus wrote:This is because you are a hamhanded idiot.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
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