The Energon Pub

nice to see some others wondering where the Emperor's clothes are. This isn't a terrible looking toy by any means, but it's not as nice as the Classics one, and the colours and design choices are just baffling to me. The only positive I can see vs the fairly easily available Classics Jetfire is that it's a tiny bit bigger.


Oh and the actual cockpit (as opposed to the fake cockpit) opens so you can put your little........................................ stick men drawn on paper? .......inside.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

nullrayz wrote:poor hasbro, if only they knew that 90% of people buying this toy are over 18 years of age.

They are WELL aware of this.

but then why didn't they make it good?

craggy wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

nullrayz wrote:poor hasbro, if only they knew that 90% of people buying this toy are over 18 years of age.

They are WELL aware of this.

but then why didn't they make it good?

It IS good. Hugely complicated and slavishly accurate to the often-inconsistent (and really downright ugly) character design from a 30-year-old merchandising cartoon =/= good.

But let's address this in depth.

It's not as complicated because of the economy and Hasbro's financial situation. The production costs on toys as complicated as, say, ROTF Prime are insane. More parts = more tooling required, which is the most expensive part of the whole process (machining a brand-new steel mold costs thousands). If they did make it at ROTF Prime levels of intricacy, they'd have to sell it at a ridiculous price to make a profit, which would mean it wouldn't sell.

And heck, even ignoring the argument that these are ultimately toys for children, very often collectors bitch and moan about overly complex toys. Look at poor RID Side Burn, Energon Slugslinger and Generations Galvatron- they were highly complex and intricately-engineered toys and everybody hates them.

As for G1 accuracy, this is quite clearly based off of the IDW design. In any case, we already have a G1 accurate Skyfire- Classics Jetfire. Not to mention the inevitable Masterpiece Jetfire we will eventually get (Bumblebee got one after all) and the 3rd-party Jetfire that's on the market. A little innovation can't hurt now and again.

Here's the thing. Hasbro is dividing it's efforts between several Transformers properties in terms of toys and such. There's Rescue Bots, the movie line, Generations, Masterpiece, Convention exclusives, and Kre-o, along with many variations just within those toy lines. That's a lot of variety when it comes to Transformers alone! They also have other properties that have just as much division in their own product lines! Keeping that it mind, Hasbro needs to make cuts somewhere with their Transformers toys.

Most of those cuts seem to happen more in the movie line figures with less paint apps, less articulation, less plastic causing hollow bits, and less complexity. After that the next ones to get cuts are the Generations toys, in their case it's a bit less paint and a bit less plastic for hollow bits. The Masterpiece line came out relatively unscathed other than some downsizing, but that only helped as it allowed the figures more complexity, paint, and articulation!

I would rather have this Jetfire with his hollow bits and G1 accurate paint job, than movie Crosshairs with giant car flaps and only half his vehicle mode painted.

Kid looks like hes high on something

Okay, I pretty much need this.

Now I need to save up for two leader class toys.

So far, it looks pretty damn cool. And how nice of Hasbro to include Shia Labeouf in their promo.

Still no US preorder huh? I am beginning to wonder if I'm going to have to hunt this down in a store???

I think it is actually a good thing this isn't like the leader scale of old. It would have been so large and complex, it wouldn't have fit in a classics collections at all. As it is it just looks like a large voyager, and I'm okay with that.

People are complaining about lack of paint apps. I have a feeling there will be a sticker set? Just a hunch...

warzon3 wrote:Still no US preorder huh? I am beginning to wonder if I'm going to have to hunt this down in a store???

I think it is actually a good thing this isn't like the leader scale of old. It would have been so large and complex, it wouldn't have fit in a classics collections at all. As it is it just looks like a large voyager, and I'm okay with that.

People are complaining about lack of paint apps. I have a feeling there will be a sticker set? Just a hunch...

I'd be happy with Jetfire being AoE Leader size.

Toys R Us have Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Leader Class Jetfireup up for pre-order for $46.99 this morning. Set to be released on 9/3/2014 get your pre-orders in today before they sell out! And remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

thanks, I got mine preordered .

Yep same. Pre-ordered. Time saved only wish TRU would stop advertising them selves as a shoprunner member when a good bulk of there products dont count for the free 2 day shipping to shoprunner members, but they never fail to advertise post sale use that service next time even though it isnt an option. The very reason I love Amazon Prime.

TRU canceled my preorder. Not sure what's going on here.

mine was just canceled as well.

preordered and processing, hope it goes through

As much as I dislike the figure I know I will have to have it anyway. I caved and ordered two. The order went through okay, but there was a notice at the top that my order exceeded allotted amount per customer. Maybe they just want you to order 1 instead of 2? I will update if it gets canceled same as the other two posters on here. I'm just hoping now that Amazon will list a preorder and I can cancel this one as Amazon will undoubtedly be cheaper and tax free for me.



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UPDATE 10:01 AM- Received 2nd email from TRU that my preorder has been processed and that I will be charged at the time of product launch date. The email listed 09.03.14. I think the ERRORS have been fixed...hope so anyway for people wanting to order.






~reluctantyouth~

I ordered 1 and have not received any e-mail yet about a canceled order. Fortunately Toyrus.com also had the new NECA Pacific Rim Kaiju Scunner on their sight, so I was able to get free shipping on both.

MenaceRX wrote:Yep same. Pre-ordered. Time saved only wish TRU would stop advertising them selves as a shoprunner member when a good bulk of there products dont count for the free 2 day shipping to shoprunner members, but they never fail to advertise post sale use that service next time even though it isnt an option. The very reason I love Amazon Prime.

It says right on their website that you have to order $49 or more in order to receive free shipping. Order 2 or add a small item to your order to qualify for free shipping. Don't forget you are paying a premium fee for Amazon Prime (that is well worth the money if you order a lot from Amazon).

Purchase $49 or more in additional eligible merchandise to qualify for Free Shipping

I ordered 2 Jetfires and got the free shipping.

http://www.toysrus.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=3554259

ordered at 8:36amEST, and it got canceled by TRU at 9:39amEST....

why the hell would they even PUT it on the stupid site for pre-order if it not ready for a pre-order??!!?

dumb.

I get what you are saying about the price amount before free shipping, I am talking about the 2 day free expedited shipping which is not the same thing and is available to Shoprunner customers. TRU is company tied to Shoprunner and some of the items they sell give you that 2 day free shipping if you are a Shoprunner member, I get it from my credit card company free.

Talked with a TRU rep and she told me this for Shoprunner "The option is only available on certain items, shop runner chooses which items they want to be eligible for the free shipping, it will say under the item on the page where it says special offers if it is eligible."

That kind of sucks that it is so selective and really since I am not paying for the service its ok but disappointing none the less.

Anyway they have decided not to offer it on alot of the toys as of late.

Separately yes I love my Prime membership had it for a few years now, between the shipping, and the streaming of TV, Movies, Book borrowing and now Music downloads its a fantastic service well worth the $99 price tag. If you can get it with the student discount or one of the other discounts its even better in value.

My first order attempt was with another item, to get free shipping, that was in stock, Jetfire was canceled 1 hour after I Received the order acknowledgement email. the second item was confirmed. I had payed through the PayPal option on this order. With my second attempt at Jetfire only, the order was placed just after my first order was cancelled, but this time I paid by credit card, and I just received the confirmation email at about an hour and 15 minutes after the acknowledgement email.

I got the two emails from TRU, one for order acknowledgement and the second one is the confirmation making it an official order to be filled when the item comes in stock. So I am assuming good to go unless they send me something else.

MenaceRX wrote:I got the two emails from TRU, one for order acknowledgement and the second one is the confirmation making it an official order to be filled when the item comes in stock. So I am assuming good to go unless they send me something else.

Same here...got the acknowledgement and confirmation emails from TRU as I ordered (2) Jetfire.



~reluctantyouth~

Preordered.

Threw in a TMNT figure to get free shipping.

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