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[tech348]

Also a possible rumor is that Toshiba will be dropping HD as well.

[Robinson]

Here is the Actual article.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N) has decided to exclusively sell high-definition DVDs in the Blu-Ray format, dealing what could be a crippling blow to the rival HD DVD technology backed by Toshiba Corp (6502.T).


The move by the world's largest retailer, announced on Friday, caps a disappointing week for HD DVD supporters, who also saw consumer electronics chain Best Buy Co Inc (BBY.N) and online video rental company Netflix Inc (NFLX.O) defect to the Blu-ray camp.
In a statement on its Web site, Wal-Mart said that over the next few months it will phase out sales of HD DVD systems and discs. By June, it will sell only products in the Blu-ray format which was developed by Sony Corp (6758.T).

"We've listened to our customers, who are showing a clear preference toward Blu-ray products and movies with their purchases," said Gary Severson, a Wal-Mart senior vice president.

The move affects 4,000 Wal-Mart and Sam's Club stores in the United States, as well as related online sites. The stores will continue to sell traditional DVD players and movies.

The so-called format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray has been a thorn in the side of retailers, which have had to commit shelf space to devices from both camps even as they field complaints from frustrated and confused customers.

Next-generation DVDs and players, boasting better picture quality and more capacity, were expected to help revive the $24 billion global home DVD market. But Hollywood studios had initially split their alliances between the two camps, meaning only certain films would play on a consumer's DVD machine.

Like the Betamax-VHS battle in the 1980s, having two DVD standards has dampened sales of both and put retailers in a conundrum of having to either choose sides or sell products that have a chance of becoming obsolete very quickly.

The balance of power, however, tipped toward the Sony camp in January after Time Warner Inc's (TWX.N) Warner Bros studio said it would only release high-definition DVDs in Blu-ray format. With that, studios behind some three-quarters of DVDs are backing Blu-ray, although some release in both formats.

Blu-ray also has support from News Corp's (NWSa.N) 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co (DIS.N) and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp (LGF.N). Sony's PlayStation 3 game console can also play Blu-ray films.

"So if you bought the HD player like me, I'd retire it to the bedroom, kid's playroom, or give it to your parents to play their John Wayne standard def movies, and make space for a BD player for your awesome Hi Def experience," Wal-Mart's movie and gaming blogger, Susan Chronister, wrote in a posting.

To be sure, Toshiba has secured agreements with studios including NBC Universal's Universal Pictures, Viacom Inc's(VIAb.N) Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc (DWA.N).

Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Xbox 360 also currently works only with HD DVD. However, Microsoft said in January it could consider supporting Blu-ray technology at consumers' behest.

Toshiba could not be reached to comment on Wal-Mart's move.

Earlier on Friday, the Hollywood Reporter quoted unidentified industry sources as saying Toshiba was widely expected to pull the plug on HD DVD in the coming weeks.

Toshiba spokeswoman Junko Furuta said none of what was reported in the magazine had been decided. She declined to comment further, saying: "We cannot comment on speculation."

(Reporting by Franklin Paul; additional reporting by Kiyoshi Takenaka in Tokyo; editing by Phil Berlowitz and Gerald E. McCormick)

th that, studios behind some three-quarters of DVDs are backing Blu-ray, although some release in both formats.

Blu-ray also has support from News Corp's (NWSa.N) 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co (DIS.N) and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp (LGF.N). Sony's PlayStation 3 game console can also play Blu-ray films.

"So if you bought the HD player like me, I'd retire it to the bedroom, kid's playroom, or give it to your parents to play their John Wayne standard def movies, and make space for a BD player for your awesome Hi Def experience," Wal-Mart's movie and gaming blogger, Susan Chronister, wrote in a posting.

To be sure, Toshiba has secured agreements with studios including NBC Universal's Universal Pictures, Viacom Inc's(VIAb.N) Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc (DWA.N).

Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Xbox 360 also currently works only with HD DVD. However, Microsoft said in January it could consider supporting Blu-ray technology at consumers' behest.

Toshiba could not be reached to comment on Wal-Mart's move.

Earlier on Friday, the Hollywood Reporter quoted unidentified industry sources as saying Toshiba was widely expected to pull the plug on HD DVD in the coming weeks.

Toshiba spokeswoman Junko Furuta said none of what was reported in the magazine had been decided. She declined to comment further, saying: "We cannot comment on speculation."

(Reporting by Franklin Paul; additional reporting by Kiyoshi Takenaka in Tokyo; editing by Phil Berlowitz and Gerald E. McCormick)

[Shadowman]

This Format War is over. I'm sorry to say that Blu-Ray has essentially won this.

[Tekka]

Playstation Three owners will be partying in the streets tonight.

[tech348]

My toshiba HD-A30 is now no more than just a really good upconvert player. Oh well it was a gift so I can't complain.

[Keeperofthespark]

Hope Target doesn't drop it yet, I'm getting an HD DVD player next weekend I think, and hope.

[Shadowman]

Hope Target doesn't drop it yet, I'm getting an HD DVD player next weekend I think, and hope.

From what this thread is saying, it would be a good idea to at least wait a while. How would you feel if you bought an HD DVD player, and eventually, it has all the functionality of a Betamax player?

[Cyber Bishop]

Hope Target doesn't drop it yet, I'm getting an HD DVD player next weekend I think, and hope.

From what this thread is saying, it would be a good idea to at least wait a while. How would you feel if you bought an HD DVD player, and eventually, it has all the functionality of a Betamax player?

I agree, now would not be the best time to purchase one as soon it will not be supported by anyone and will die out.. Just like betamax.

[Moonlight]

What is the difference between HD and blue ray besides the price? The salesman at circut city tried to sell us a blue ray player with a plasma but oh my lands the price was nearly as much as the TV.

[Shadowman]

What is the difference between HD and blue ray besides the price? The salesman at circut city tried to sell us a blue ray player with a plasma but oh my lands the price was nearly as much as the TV.

1. Blu-Ray can hold larger amounts of data. HD DVD can hold around 15gigabytes (about three times as much as a normal DVD), while Blu-Ray can hold around 25 Gigabytes.

2. Plasma sucks. Go LCD.

[sniper_samurai]

What is the difference between HD and blue ray besides the price? The salesman at circut city tried to sell us a blue ray player with a plasma but oh my lands the price was nearly as much as the TV.

1. Blu-Ray can hold larger amounts of data. HD DVD can hold around 15gigabytes (about three times as much as a normal DVD), while Blu-Ray can hold around 25 Gigabytes.

2. Plasma sucks. Go LCD.

The differences go a bit deeper than the amount of data they carry. HDDVD supports online content and picture in picture presentations, where as Blu-Ray has just gotten PiP(profile 1.1) and requires another update for online content(profile 2.0) of which the PS3 is the ONLY current Blu-ray player that can be upgraded to 2.0. Thats right EVERY Blu-Ray player currently on the market except for the PS3 is obsolete. So unless you want a PS3 now is not the right time to buy a Blu-Ray player.

I think the ultimate format would have been HDDVDs formatting with Blu-Rays storage abillities, which would have happened if Sony accepted the deal brokered by Helwett Packard to use Microsofts HDi for content rather than Sun Microsystems BD-java. Then there wouldn't have been a format war in the first place.

Oh and Shadow BTW Plasma>>LCD due to higher contrast and lower cost. Plus the new Pioneer Kuro prototype that was shown at CES this year is the first tv that can show true black technically giving it an infinite contrast ratio, which blows away the 15,000:1 ratio that the better lcds currently have.

[Marty Rocket]

...I'm still wondering what was wrong with regular DVD. Why is high definition such a big deal?

[olokin]

HD-DVD is good as dead. This a great victory for Sony. Now I can go out and buy that PS3 with the BlueRay player.

[DesalationReborn]

...I'm still wondering what was wrong with regular DVD. Why is high definition such a big deal?

There wasn't not a problem with DVD's--only with where the hardware companies could get new revenue.

[Shadowman]

...I'm still wondering what was wrong with regular DVD. Why is high definition such a big deal?

What was wrong with VHS and cassettes? Something better came along.

[Rogue.]

Blu-Rays storage abillities, which would have happened if Sony accepted the deal brokered by Helwett Packard to use Microsofts HDi for content rather than Sun Microsystems BD-java. Then there wouldn't have been a format war in the first place.

Sony = greed. Of course they're a company and want to maximize profits, but I'll never switch to Blu-Ray because of it belonging to Sony. "Proprietary" also means "monopoly," which means the consumer pays out more because Sony can charge whatever they want.

And don't forget that Sony is the company that included harmful rootkits that installed themselves on people's computers several years back, because they were afraid of the changing world of the music industry.

[Shadowman]

Oh and Shadow BTW Plasma>>LCD due to higher contrast and lower cost. Plus the new Pioneer Kuro prototype that was shown at CES this year is the first tv that can show true black technically giving it an infinite contrast ratio, which blows away the 15,000:1 ratio that the better lcds currently have.

All that, for the low, low cost of having things permanently etched into your TV if they're on there for too long!

[The Happy Locust]

Blu-Rays storage abillities, which would have happened if Sony accepted the deal brokered by Helwett Packard to use Microsofts HDi for content rather than Sun Microsystems BD-java. Then there wouldn't have been a format war in the first place.

Sony = greed. Of course they're a company and want to maximize profits, but I'll never switch to Blu-Ray because of it belonging to Sony. "Proprietary" also means "monopoly," which means the consumer pays out more because Sony can charge whatever they want.

And don't forget that Sony is the company that included harmful rootkits that installed themselves on people's computers several years back, because they were afraid of the changing world of the music industry.

Seems a little one-sided. Isn't HD-DVD technically a proprietary property owned by Toshiba?

[Matrix.]

...I'm still wondering what was wrong with regular DVD. Why is high definition such a big deal?

What was wrong with VHS and cassettes? Something better came along.

VHS and tapes had a tendency to degrade, had to be rewound and couldn't be skipped through quickly. Nor could it be paused without getting lines over the screen, unlike Betamax.

I don't see why I should upgrade my player and TV just so I can see things in a higher resolution- not that it at all matters unless you have a large widescreen TV anyway.

[Rogue.]

Seems a little one-sided. Isn't HD-DVD technically a proprietary property owned by Toshiba?

I just hate words that start with an S and end with a Y. Sunny, spooky, sucky, Sony...