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U.S. Vs. Japanese Cartoons

Postby Lazerface » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:13 pm

I guess this topic has probably been done to death here, and the answers can probably go on for days. Can someone give me just a quick breakdown, without any spoilers?

I was wondering which version is better, or which I should watch first, if I end up watching both. I don't mind subtitles too much if the story is much better in the Japanese versions.

Robots In Disguise(US) Vs. Car Robots (Japan)
Armada(US) Vs. Transformers: Micron Legend (Japan)
Energon(US) Vs. Transformers: Superlink (Japan)
Cybertron(US) Vs. TTransformers: Galaxy Force (Japan)

*I'm currently about half way through the US Armada, and have skimmed through several episodes of Robots In Disguise.
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Re: U.S. Vs. Japanese Cartoons

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:37 pm

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Well, first you should know that not all of the Japanese versions have been subtitled in English.

Only Super Link and Galaxy Force have been been subbed fully in English, while Car Robots has only had its first 8 episodes have been subbed, and Micron Densetsu hasn't been subbed at all (aside form maybe one episode or so).

With that said,
Lazerface wrote:I was wondering which version is better, or which I should watch first, if I end up watching both. I don't mind subtitles too much if the story is much better in the Japanese versions.
This is a touchy topic, since these four series tend to have VERY mixed views and opinions among the fandom. Some like 'em, some hate 'em. Even regarding the different language versions. To call a version "better" is purely in the eyes of the beholder (except for Energon/Super Link, as the Japanese version has undeniably more sensical dialogue). To best get a feel for which version is better to you, you'd probably want to watch both versions of each, if possible. Most of us here have either watched all of the English versions, or have watched Super Link and/or Galaxy Force without watching Energon and/or Cybertron. But, each version of all of them has their own uniqueness to them that makes necessitates a proper viewing of all eight of them to make your own justifiably unbias opinion about them.

However, like I said, not all eight are readily available to watch, so you'd have to watch what you can find. All four English versions can be easily found and watched online. Super Link and Galaxy Force may be a little harder to find, but they're out there somewhere. Car Robots hasn't been finished being subbed, so that's an incomplete view. And Micron Densetsu is currently unwatchable in subbed form.

My advice, I guess you should go with watching the English versions while keeping in mind that the Japanese version of each is not exactly the same as what's in the English version and may contain some better (or worse) stuff from the English versions.

Also note that CR/RiD was made first, and that Armada/MD, Energon/SL, and Cybertron/GF are trilogy in that order.
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Re: U.S. Vs. Japanese Cartoons

Postby Lazerface » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:57 pm

Thanks. That is a big help. I guess I will just watch it all in English, then go back and watch the Japanese versions if I can find them. I just kept thinking Armada must make more sense in Japanese, because the story has been kind of choppy in English. It seems like some of the ideas were lost in translation maybe. It has those awkward moments of silence after characters say completely unprofound things, which seems to plague a lot of anime.

The art is really cool, though.
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Re: U.S. Vs. Japanese Cartoons

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:14 am

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Lazerface wrote:Thanks. That is a big help. I guess I will just watch it all in English, then go back and watch the Japanese versions if I can find them. I just kept thinking Armada must make more sense in Japanese, because the story has been kind of choppy in English. It seems like some of the ideas were lost in translation maybe. It has those awkward moments of silence after characters say completely unprofound things, which seems to plague a lot of anime.
From what I can tell, both Armada and Energon make worlds more sense in Japanese, but they're not readily available subbed in English. RiD and Cybertron are both "different" in Japanese, but which is better a matter of opinion.

Lazerface wrote:The art is really cool, though.
I can say that Micron Densetsu definitely had better art than Armada. Compare:
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