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by **Cliff Jumper** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:29 pm

I was looking over the toy galleries and noticed that the '08 Bumblebee's shoulders are extender farther out than what is shown on the Hasbro site. Do you have to pull the shoulders out during the transformation? Or is this just done for better poseability? Any help would be much appreciated.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bonecrusher27** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:09 pm

If you have a pic showing what you mean these types of questions are more easily answered.

That being said, the shoulders have to be pulled out laterally, then slightly externally rotated in order to clear the chest piece during automorph, otherwise they may physically obstruct the chest as it's going down and over BB's head.

by **Cliff Jumper** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:17 pm

So then this is correct? The shoulders must be pulled out like this:

P.S. Thanks for the tip on posting Boncrusher27

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:24 pm

Looks like the pics in Seibertron's gallery are the way that I have it done. Had to pull them out to get them out of the way, as was said.

by **Cliff Jumper** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:30 pm

cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:47 pm

Cliff Jumper wrote:cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

one of the best deluxes ever.. hands down

by **Cliff Jumper** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:55 pm

thanks. He is awesome. One of my top favs.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:34 pm

Yes, those arms are a total bitch to work with. (Finally got one btw.)

News Credits: 1 · by **Bonecrusher27** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:30 pm

Cliff Jumper wrote:cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

I know exactly what you mean! I haven't been this careful and gentle with anything, let alone toys, for a long long time! you know it's precious, you hear the stories of poor QC issues with these toys, and you handle them with the utmost delicacy in the most controlled fashion possible. They almost cease to become toys! I wonder if 5 year olds can really play with them.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:50 pm

Bonecrusher27 wrote:
Cliff Jumper wrote:cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

I know exactly what you mean! I haven't been this careful and gentle with anything, let alone toys, for a long long time! you know it's precious, you hear the stories of poor QC issues with these toys, and you handle them with the utmost delicacy in the most controlled fashion possible. They almost cease to become toys! I wonder if 5 year olds can really play with them.

Sure, if they want a bunch of broken TFs. You can tell the mainline pieces (Deluxe, Voyager, Leader) are aimed at adults and collectors. The Cyber Slammers, Cyber Stompers, and Real Gear are aimed at the kids. The Real Gears and their lack of complexity prove this.

Which is great for us, but will make for a lot of pissed off parents.

by **Gee-atron** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:24 am

When you first pull the arms out, they have to click! It's a bit worrying. I had the same problem. As you transform him, you'll find that nearing the end you are then able to manually push the arms back!

by **zemper** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:16 pm

decepticonjon wrote:
Cliff Jumper wrote:cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

one of the best deluxes ever.. hands down

QFT.

the moment of epiphany came when i first gently, but firmly, pulled out one of his legs...when the automorph kicked in, i was so freakin' flabbergasted, i didn't know whether to snicker like a little boy or jump out in joy. man, it's good to know there is at least some new progress in the whole 20 + year history of these toys.

News Credits: 1 · by **timothyvernon** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:21 pm

hasbro never transforms their own products correctly.. ever. and i think that the headlights in the seibertron gallery should be a bit higher.

by **Bugbite** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:50 pm

I've noticed that every picture I've seen of 08 BB is Wrong. If you have problems with the top automorph staying in place, flip the hood piece that is now on the back forward and it locks the chest in place. So far every picture I have seen of him has not done this, thus making him very flimsy.

Just a tip.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:59 pm

Agree with Bugbite about the hood, and the shoulders most certainly need to be pulled out, it took 3 of my friends almost 2 hours to transform Bumblebee into robot mode, as they didnt even try to pull the shoulders out, until I finally got bored of watching them flounder and told them the single thing they had forgotten to do.

The only other transforming advice I can give is insert the gun back into the boot compartment before trying to do the top half and re-align everything.

by **Cliff Jumper** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:23 pm

Thanks for all the help. Anyone else get a second one just in case? I'm thinking about getting a back up.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:09 am

Cliff Jumper wrote:Thanks for all the help. Anyone else get a second one just in case? I'm thinking about getting a back up.

I'm selling any extras I find to people on the boards and locally who want them. So no, I have not kept a second for myself yet.

by **DorkimusPrime** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:13 am

Cliff Jumper wrote:Thanks for all the help. Anyone else get a second one just in case? I'm thinking about getting a back up.

I'm thinking of nabbing a second when I see it but only because people rave about how great theirs is...I'm starting to think mine's defective because the joints are super-loose (and always have been) and he tries to flop to the ground alot. I thought they were all like that, but I keep hearing "Oh, BB08 is so fantastic! *spoo*" that I'm going to have to try again.

by **Noobatron** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:44 am

Yeah, the joints on mine are extremely loose too. I can only stand him up in certain poses. Maybe he's not transformed right (he looks like he is), but that waist joint just flops around so he wants to fall over a lot. The hip/leg joints are pretty loose too.

I'm tempted to open up the one I bought for my buddy back home to see if it's the same way.

by **lanzajr26** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:03 am

zemper wrote:the moment of epiphany came when i first gently, but firmly, pulled out one of his legs...when the automorph kicked in, i was so freakin' flabbergasted, i didn't know whether to snicker like a little boy or jump out in joy. man, it's good to know there is at least some new progress in the whole 20 + year history of these toys.

I felt the same way when I first transformed him. As my first movie toy with automorph I was pretty impressed at how the transformation unfolded in front of me. Substandard paint apps aside, this is already one of my all time favorite Transformers.

by **DarkFlameAngel** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:09 pm

Edit: Problem solved

News Credits: 1 · by **twee** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:04 pm

timothyvernon wrote:hasbro never transforms their own products correctly.. ever. and i think that the headlights in the seibertron gallery should be a bit higher.

Yeah, my headlights turn all the way up and turn into boobs. I'd like to think Hasbro made them swivel so far for a reason.

And I'd like to add another vote to the "leg automorph is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while" category. The Classic BB's leg automorph was nifty, but this one was just perfect.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:07 pm

Cliff Jumper wrote:Thanks for all the help. Anyone else get a second one just in case? I'm thinking about getting a back up.

I grabbed me a second when when I finally found one that the Scalpers had not gotten to.
I got it for display purposes, to have 1 in robot and 1 in vehicle mode, not because I am afraid of the Bee breaking.

I know that one day he will, that his automorph/s will die, turning him into a badly painted lump of plastic, but that will happen whether or not he gets transformed a little or alot.

News Credits: 5 · by **bumble_bee_68** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:09 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
Bonecrusher27 wrote:
Cliff Jumper wrote:cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

I know exactly what you mean! I haven't been this careful and gentle with anything, let alone toys, for a long long time! you know it's precious, you hear the stories of poor QC issues with these toys, and you handle them with the utmost delicacy in the most controlled fashion possible. They almost cease to become toys! I wonder if 5 year olds can really play with them.

Sure, if they want a bunch of broken TFs. You can tell the mainline pieces (Deluxe, Voyager, Leader) are aimed at adults and collectors. The Cyber Slammers, Cyber Stompers, and Real Gear are aimed at the kids. The Real Gears and their lack of complexity prove this.

Which is great for us, but will make for a lot of pissed off parents.

There is one real Gear that is an actual flashlight, not very bright, but would come in very handy during un-expected power outages - esp. here in So Fla!!!

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:31 pm

bumble_bee_68 wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Bonecrusher27 wrote:
Cliff Jumper wrote:cool. I wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking him or anything. He's such a cool toy I don't want him to break.

I know exactly what you mean! I haven't been this careful and gentle with anything, let alone toys, for a long long time! you know it's precious, you hear the stories of poor QC issues with these toys, and you handle them with the utmost delicacy in the most controlled fashion possible. They almost cease to become toys! I wonder if 5 year olds can really play with them.

Sure, if they want a bunch of broken TFs. You can tell the mainline pieces (Deluxe, Voyager, Leader) are aimed at adults and collectors. The Cyber Slammers, Cyber Stompers, and Real Gear are aimed at the kids. The Real Gears and their lack of complexity prove this.

Which is great for us, but will make for a lot of pissed off parents.

There is one real Gear that is an actual flashlight, not very bright, but would come in very handy during un-expected power outages - esp. here in So Fla!!!

Oh yeah! T.E.C.H. Gear Flash Bang. So it actually does work? (to an extent) Niiice.