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by **megatroptimus** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:26 pm

Looking at my G1 toys, it would cool imo to produce a line largely copying the original G1 but with added articulation. Take Prime for example. Keep the exact same overall look, but add flip out fists, a head that turns, some hip joints and knee swivels and bingo, a modernized classic toy that still looks like the original. I have nothing against current Classics, I'm just suggesting an avenue that could also have been explored.

News Credits: 3 · by **Flint** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:53 pm

I thought the Classics were just fine as is, IMO. Sure certain thinngs might have been done differently but they are great. Can't wait to see more next year!

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:56 pm

I was just disappointed that there weren't more originals. Too many repaints and crappy minicons. Would have love to see Grimlock with different foot design and then add the reset of the dinobot team too. Oh, and one last thing, it sucked that all the seekers weren't made available to the general public. And that's all...

by **Kimmer** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:48 pm

megatroptimus wrote:Looking at my G1 toys, it would cool imo to produce a line largely copying the original G1 but with added articulation. Take Prime for example. Keep the exact same overall look, but add flip out fists, a head that turns, some hip joints and knee swivels and bingo, a modernized classic toy that still looks like the original. I have nothing against current Classics, I'm just suggesting an avenue that could also have been explored.

thats exactly what i thought the classics should've been too. figures like grimlock,mirage,and megs were just horrible but jetfire,ramjet,and screamer were excellent. prime and bb were average so i guess the line will never please everyone, especially g1 guys like myself. also i agree with devastator in regards to that damn target exclusive 2-pack. i didn't even see it once in store. store exclusives=total retardation.

by **lanzajr26** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:06 pm

kimmer wrote:
megatroptimus wrote:Looking at my G1 toys, it would cool imo to produce a line largely copying the original G1 but with added articulation. Take Prime for example. Keep the exact same overall look, but add flip out fists, a head that turns, some hip joints and knee swivels and bingo, a modernized classic toy that still looks like the original. I have nothing against current Classics, I'm just suggesting an avenue that could also have been explored.

thats exactly what i thought the classics should've been too. figures like grimlock,mirage,and megs were just horrible but jetfire,ramjet,and screamer were excellent. prime and bb were average so i guess the line will never please everyone, especially g1 guys like myself. also i agree with devastator in regards to that damn target exclusive 2-pack. i didn't even see it once in store. store exclusives=total retardation.

I thought Mirage, Bumblebee and Prime were all great figures. They all have great design elements to them.

In fact Grimlock and Megatron are the only letdowns for me out of the whole Classics line.

by **DorkimusPrime** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:09 pm

I would have liked to have seen Grimlock look more like his G1 TV appearance, where the head flips back and the chest swings open to expose his robot head. But he's cool as is.

by **Darth Screamer** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:15 pm

All I have too say is energon...errr... I mean classics devastator.

News Credits: 104 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:31 pm

Flint wrote:Can't wait to see more next year!

QFT!!

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:47 pm

Well, you do have to remember that a lot of the realistic styled cars in G1 would need to be licensed from car companies and they probably would not okay cars that they don't put on the road anymore, as many of the old alt modes are a good twnty year old car designs now. :-?

by **Decatron** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:47 pm

Yeah Classics has my favorite designs. I have Ramjet, Starscream and Astrotrain. I'm looking forward to Universe/Classics 2.0

by **Tramp** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:02 pm

DorkimusPrime wrote:I would have liked to have seen Grimlock look more like his G1 TV appearance, where the head flips back and the chest swings open to expose his robot head. But he's cool as is.

I've actually managed to pull that off, though I'm not done with the legs/tail yet. I'll tell you this though, it ain't easy to pull off.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:41 am

Well that's really cool. Nice job, although much like the G1 version, the back looks way too heavy now...

by **DorkimusPrime** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:52 am

nice job Tramp, I'd like to see it when you feel that it's finished.

by **homelessjunkeon** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:43 am

megatroptimus wrote:Looking at my G1 toys, it would cool imo to produce a line largely copying the original G1 but with added articulation. Take Prime for example. Keep the exact same overall look, but add flip out fists, a head that turns, some hip joints and knee swivels and bingo, a modernized classic toy that still looks like the original. I have nothing against current Classics, I'm just suggesting an avenue that could also have been explored.

News Credits: 6 · by **City Commander** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:50 am

Damn I gotta buy that two pack. People complain and say they are bad figures, but they look so damn cool!

by **megatroptimus** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:26 am

homelessjunkeon wrote:
megatroptimus wrote:Looking at my G1 toys, it would cool imo to produce a line largely copying the original G1 but with added articulation. Take Prime for example. Keep the exact same overall look, but add flip out fists, a head that turns, some hip joints and knee swivels and bingo, a modernized classic toy that still looks like the original. I have nothing against current Classics, I'm just suggesting an avenue that could also have been explored.

Except that it looks like total crap in alternate mode. That's not what I call "copying the original with added articulation". It's more "making a cool robot that transforms in a floppy rolling garbage can with a retarded gimmick".

by **homelessjunkeon** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:29 am

Asides from the issue of quality, it's near enough exactly what you described.

News Credits: 6 · by **City Commander** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:43 am

Beggars can't be choosers you know.

by **megatroptimus** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:59 am

homelessjunkeon wrote:Asides from the issue of quality, it's near enough exactly what you described.

No, what I said is to take the original toy and add some joints, not to completely redesign it.

by **homelessjunkeon** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:03 am

megatroptimus wrote:
homelessjunkeon wrote:Asides from the issue of quality, it's near enough exactly what you described.

No, what I said is to take the original toy and add some joints, not to completely redesign it.

So you want a poopy looking kitbash?

by **megatroptimus** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:05 am

homelessjunkeon wrote:So you want a poopy looking kitbash?

Smart ass.

by **zemper** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:43 am

Tramp wrote:
DorkimusPrime wrote:I would have liked to have seen Grimlock look more like his G1 TV appearance, where the head flips back and the chest swings open to expose his robot head. But he's cool as is.

I've actually managed to pull that off, though I'm not done with the legs/tail yet. I'll tell you this though, it ain't easy to pull off.

wow, excellent kitbash! aside from being kibble-worthy, that's actually a much better representation of what grimlock shoud have been... i never quite managed to get past those jaw-feet. LOL.

keep it up, and keep us updated of your kitbash.

by **DorkimusPrime** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:36 pm

homelessjunkeon wrote:Asides from the issue of quality, it's near enough exactly what you described.

ah, but quality is such a minor issue... :lol:

by **Tramp** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:47 pm

DorkimusPrime wrote:nice job Tramp, I'd like to see it when you feel that it's finished.

zemper wrote:wow, excellent kitbash! aside from being kibble-worthy, that's actually a much better representation of what grimlock shoud have been... i never quite managed to get past those jaw-feet. LOL. Cool

keep it up, and keep us updated of your kitbash.

Yeah, he's kind've on the back burner right now, because I'm at a bit of an impass at the moment. The feet have consistantly been giving me a problem. the original plan was toi make the transformation of the legs into the tail just like G1 Grimlock, that turned out to be impossible, so i had to come up with another solution, but even that leaves me with the problem of designing and attaching a tip of the tail. I still have to skin the legs too.