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by **Prime Riblet** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:17 am

Thrust is an absolute need!!!

Website · by **STngAR** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:40 am

There were so many times I stopped myself from buying Henkei Thrust and Dirge and now this makes me happy.

I think if they come out with Thundercracker (which is pretty obvious if they say more seeekers to come) I'll buy him and sell my Henkei one so I dont have one seeker with chrome blasters (cant make him feel like the red-headed child).

by **JRFitzpatrick7** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:20 pm

STngAR wrote:There were so many times I stopped myself from buying Henkei Thrust and Dirge and now this makes me happy.

I think if they come out with Thundercracker (which is pretty obvious if they say more seeekers to come) I'll buy him and sell my Henkei one so I dont have one seeker with chrome blasters (cant make him feel like the red-headed child).

what does that phrase mean?! My boss at work tells me he "Loves
me like a red headed stepchild"

I want all transformers

News Credits: 23 · by **1337W422102** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:24 pm

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:
STngAR wrote:There were so many times I stopped myself from buying Henkei Thrust and Dirge and now this makes me happy.

I think if they come out with Thundercracker (which is pretty obvious if they say more seeekers to come) I'll buy him and sell my Henkei one so I dont have one seeker with chrome blasters (cant make him feel like the red-headed child).

what does that phrase mean?! My boss at work tells me he "Loves
me like a red headed stepchild"

I want all transformers

Just wait until that redhead grows into a young woman. =P~

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:48 pm

Samsonator wrote:Keep 'em coming, Hasbro, and I will keep giving you money... bastards.

Bwa ha ha ha, I love this thread already!

I'll come right out and say it, I don't get the Mart-Sue thing. I may work with cars all day, but it escapes me. I'm guessing it's a ricer thing. Personally, Drift is at the top of my very short want list from this whole event. I think the figure looks just fantastic and that it shows Hasbro/Takara still have they're **** together.

Thrust looks great, I'll be happy to pick him up again. I have both the Botcon and Gentai versions and I'm not mad about this at all. I'm genuinely happy that other fans can get this figure. Everyone can rest easy, because this means for sure that Gentai Dirge will come out here too, and without the ghey lightning bolts too. Hopefully we get Sunstorm too. My only gripe with the Gentai Seekers is that they should use the Ramjet Missiles, not Starscreams.

I'm with 1337 on this one, Ironhide looks super "gimpy" (best way to describe him BTW, 1337) but I love that he comes with his turret from the Video Game. Makes me really really hope for Mulitplayer Protectobot and the Omnibots. Bumblebee looks good. Sure fans are all like "whaaa, not another" but I say, sure why not. As long as it has effort put into it, and it clearly does, I'm down. Love that they put the thought into his hand transforming into his arm cannon. That's what I wanted in the first place!

Darkmount will be pretty rad when he comes out, but his feet are just looking brutal. I mean other then that it's awesome. Hailstorm looks to be the best ROTF Deluxe figure yet, and Pistola Sideswipe looks pretty BAMF. New mold, new weapons, new transformation and even looks like a new head mold.

I know this is just fanwank talking, and I know everyone is sick of BB, but I would love to see the OG Cybertron mode BB make an appearance in the Generations line.

Not to hate on ya UP, but I'm glad there aren't any BW characters. Cheetor and Dinobot, while even I think both are ok figures, are still in stores around here. That just goes to show ya fan reception for both kids or collectors. Mind you, that's not to say that the rumored Generations Rhinox wouldn't be rad, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

by **Alex Jones** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:20 pm

I think Deluxe Ironhide looks a bit more movie accurate than the voyager version. Voyager Ironhide was little to lean and agile compared to the movie decpiction. The Deluxe version appears more stockier and would be a nice scale with Voyager Optimus Prime.

Website · by **STngAR** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:23 pm

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:
STngAR wrote:There were so many times I stopped myself from buying Henkei Thrust and Dirge and now this makes me happy.

I think if they come out with Thundercracker (which is pretty obvious if they say more seeekers to come) I'll buy him and sell my Henkei one so I dont have one seeker with chrome blasters (cant make him feel like the red-headed child).

what does that phrase mean?! My boss at work tells me he "Loves
me like a red headed stepchild"

I want all transformers

Funny thing is I was gonna call him FedEx (refering to the nickname they gave the red headed kid in the Steve Martin movie Cheaper by the Dozen) but I wasnt sure how many people would have gotten that one.

On the topic of Darkmounts ankles again, I was looking at the picture and if look at the top of that weak looking ankle joint it looks like there is a slot there where that piece should side up making that fit tight with the foot - my theory is its mis-transformed

by **revrun** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:39 pm

Drift=want

Ironhide=okay,except the hands are friggin' killing me.

thrust=meh

Bumblebee+ WHY!?! TOO many Bumblebees consuming this toyline!

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:45 am

STngAR wrote:On the topic of Darkmounts ankles again, I was looking at the picture and if look at the top of that weak looking ankle joint it looks like there is a slot there where that piece should side up making that fit tight with the foot - my theory is its mis-transformed

I hope you're right. If not for that, he's an easy 10/10

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:00 am

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes !!!!!!!
YEs yes yes yes yes yesyesyesyesyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy happy happy !!!

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:17 am

The one seeker they won't do in the Classics Seeker mold would be Thundercracker. He was a Botcon Exclusive. He may be done in the ROTF Dirge mold, or the ROTF Thrust mold but not the Classics mold. That topic has been beaten to death.

This Thrust is different because it is not sharing the Botcon mold. Hope that helps clear things up for some folks.

by **DecepticonRedAlert** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:35 pm

Down_Shift wrote:The one seeker they won't do in the Classics Seeker mold would be Thundercracker. He was a Botcon Exclusive. He may be done in the ROTF Dirge mold, or the ROTF Thrust mold but not the Classics mold. That topic has been beaten to death.

This Thrust is different because it is not sharing the Botcon mold. Hope that helps clear things up for some folks.

That's true Down_Shift, but as far as I'm aware Hasbro didn't specifically state that all seekers in this line would be based on old molds. Maybe if we're lucky (God willing.) We'll actually get a new mold based on Thundercracker's IDW appearance.

As for they toys I'm definitely getting Drift and Thrust, Darkmount is a maybe at this point but I'll have to see how it develops.

by **lakersfan16** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:07 pm

Bumblebee- cool axe BUT WHERE IS HIS CANNON?!?!?!
there are more transformer Bumblebees than real bees

Jetblade -he was so accurate to the real Harrier jet UNTIL that line of blue killed it

Ironhide- AT LEAST HIS HEAD IS ACCURATE
lots of kibble covering up his right arm and
he doesnt even have a left cannon
WHAT'S WITH THE LITTLE DRONE?!?!?!?!

THRUST- IS AN ABSOLUTE GET WITHOUT A DOUBT
HE'll look pretty awesome next to Dirge
(NOW IF I ONLY HAD GOT RAMJET... :BANG_HEAD:

)

DRIFT- cool sports car...BLUDGEON MUCH?

by **Valandar** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:07 pm

lakersfan16 wrote:Ironhide- AT LEAST HIS HEAD IS ACCURATE
lots of kibble covering up his right arm and
he doesnt even have a left cannon
WHAT'S WITH THE LITTLE DRONE?!?!?!?!

Umm, yes he does. It's on the underside of the left arm, look again.

by **battlecollective** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:15 am

Thrust is great, but his presence undermines both the gentei and botcon exclusives, not to mention the fans who put out a lot of money to get those figures. It just seems unfair that an equivalent figure (with better paint apps) would be available for retail.

And also, I am upset that they still did not change the way the head transforms. It would be better if they made a retool that would hide the face in jet mode (like a detachable cone helmet that hides the face when put on backwards).

Ironhide looks great. Let's hope Hasbro does not decide on shortening his stacks like they did on the voyager versions.

If there is a Classics 3.0 line, I want to see toys of Jazz and Wheeljack.

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:18 pm

Cyclonus_3009 wrote:That's true Down_Shift, but as far as I'm aware Hasbro didn't specifically state that all seekers in this line would be based on old molds. Maybe if we're lucky (God willing.) We'll actually get a new mold based on Thundercracker's IDW appearance.

You are completely right. I was too busy thinking that it would be great to get an IDW Blitzwing that I completely ruled out the possibility of the IDW Seeker mold. I gotta say C_3009, I like that idea a lot. I'd love to see an IDW Nightbeat too.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:16 pm

battlecollective wrote:Thrust is great, but his presence undermines both the gentei and botcon exclusives, not to mention the fans who put out a lot of money to get those figures. It just seems unfair that an equivalent figure (with better paint apps) would be available for retail.

Hasbro has done nothing wrong, nor does the figure undermine or diminish the exclusive figures.

This Seeker is based of Takara's design, and their Seekers were not based off of the BotCon/FunPub figures.

It's thinking like that that causes problems in this fandom. A little bit of attention paying goes a long way.

Now, people are gonna be up in arms whining about their figures losing value because of Thrust, when he won't affect the exclusives whatsoever.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:39 am

For the love of....

First the Henkei seeker controversy, now this? Let's simmer down boys, the exclusives will stay as exclusives. It doesn't diminish crap, it's a 'Thrust' in it's own right, as Botcon Thrust is to the character.

And seriously, there aren't too many fans 'complaining' about the value of the Botcon seeker sets that they buy.. because you never get to see that **** on Ebay. It's just damn scarce. Yes I'm a tad disappointed that I won't ever be able to own the Botcon set.. I've come to accept that. Will the owners of the 2007 Botcon set be pissed about this figure? No. The set will continue to peak in price because it's been an exclusive since the start.

And in all honesty the seekers aren't even the best part of that set, it's Dreadwind and Bug Bite.

by **generalstratton** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:00 pm

Blurrz wrote:For the love of....

First the Henkei seeker controversy, now this? Let's simmer down boys, the exclusives will stay as exclusives. It doesn't diminish crap, it's a 'Thrust' in it's own right, as Botcon Thrust is to the character.

And seriously, there aren't too many fans 'complaining' about the value of the Botcon seeker sets that they buy.. because you never get to see that **** on Ebay. It's just damn scarce. Yes I'm a tad disappointed that I won't ever be able to own the Botcon set.. I've come to accept that. Will the owners of the 2007 Botcon set be pissed about this figure? No. The set will continue to peak in price because it's been an exclusive since the start.

And in all honesty the seekers aren't even the best part of that set, it's Dreadwind and Bug Bite.

I think the issue is not so much what thier figures will be worth once the retail version of thrust cones out. it is more how much they had to pay for thier version, when compaired to how much getting an equivlent figure is going to cost the rest of us.

I would if i had purshased a botcon version or a Genkei verson, i would be upset over how much i paid, for a figure i was told would not me made available at north american retail. only to find out i could have saved a $100.00 (or more) when they suddenly released a retail version that is so simular to mine, that the difference is not even note worthy.

yes it is different, but not in any real way that matters, heck, the differences may even be an improvement. mold wise i think it is better than the botcon one, and paint wise i think it is better than the Genkei one.

i can grab all the upcomming figures i want from the new wave, for the cost of 1 botcon thrust, and still have some cash left over.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:08 pm

generalstratton wrote:
Blurrz wrote:For the love of....

First the Henkei seeker controversy, now this? Let's simmer down boys, the exclusives will stay as exclusives. It doesn't diminish crap, it's a 'Thrust' in it's own right, as Botcon Thrust is to the character.

And seriously, there aren't too many fans 'complaining' about the value of the Botcon seeker sets that they buy.. because you never get to see that **** on Ebay. It's just damn scarce. Yes I'm a tad disappointed that I won't ever be able to own the Botcon set.. I've come to accept that. Will the owners of the 2007 Botcon set be pissed about this figure? No. The set will continue to peak in price because it's been an exclusive since the start.

And in all honesty the seekers aren't even the best part of that set, it's Dreadwind and Bug Bite.

I think the issue is not so much what thier figures will be worth once the retail version of thrust cones out. it is more how much they had to pay for thier version, when compaired to how much getting an equivlent figure is going to cost the rest of us.

I would if i had purshased a botcon version or a Genkei verson, i would be upset over how much i paid, for a figure i was told would not me made available at north american retail. only to find out i could have saved a $100.00 (or more) when they suddenly released a retail version that is so simular to mine, that the difference is not even note worthy.

by **Screamfleet** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:01 am

Thrust is such a bittersweet thing.
It's not only harms the exclusive that was thrust, but harms future exclusives.
Should we be worried they'll do this in the future? Release an exclusive and it has huge demand, so they release it to the mass market?
I don't have thrust or collect seekers really, except just starscream. I see the issue with it though.
With like, the PS3 you could have bought it for 600 back when it came out or 300 now, but with sony, it was pretty obvious this would happen, it's been their business practice. So, what's Hasbro's going to be now?

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:29 am

Screamfleet wrote:Thrust is such a bittersweet thing.
It's not only harms the exclusive that was thrust, but harms future exclusives.
Should we be worried they'll do this in the future? Release an exclusive and it has huge demand, so they release it to the mass market?
I don't have thrust or collect seekers really, except just starscream. I see the issue with it though.
With like, the PS3 you could have bought it for 600 back when it came out or 300 now, but with sony, it was pretty obvious this would happen, it's been their business practice. So, what's Hasbro's going to be now?

Well then, doesn't this give you a clue? Don't pay exorbitant prices for convention exclusive toys that Hasbro will likely make, down the road.

I wasn't happy about the Seekers being BotCon only, but c'est la vie.

The last laugh is on the people who paid the huge sums of money to get these figures.

And it won't affect the price of the exclusive figures. The mold and deco changes will ensure that.

I mean, I don't know what to tell you.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:28 am

EDIT: Never mind, I was ranting and off topic. If you saw what I wrote please ignore it.

I'm pretty surprised that Straxus was prioritised over the likes of Xaaron, Flame and Impactor.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:20 pm

Screamfleet wrote:Thrust is such a bittersweet thing.
It's not only harms the exclusive that was thrust, but harms future exclusives.
Should we be worried they'll do this in the future? Release an exclusive and it has huge demand, so they release it to the mass market?
I don't have thrust or collect seekers really, except just starscream. I see the issue with it though.

You're talking as if Hasbro and TakaraTomy are the same company. Well, they're not. Both only share the Transformers franchise, but each goes in the direction they see fit.

Hasbro noticed the demand for an affordable Classics/Universe Thrust, and asked TakaraTomy for their Gentei Thrust mold, or just the wing molds. It's the only way, really: any molds or retools made for the conventions are destroyed after use, the same goes for BotCon Thrust's wing molds. The main difference between Hasbro and Takara's would be the (lack of) chrome, really. BotCon, Gentei or Generations. To each their own.

Me, I'm gonna wait for Generations Dirge before getting all coneheads, be them Classics/Generation or Henkei/Gentei. Nitpicky me can't accept a chrome-less conehead among two with chrome, or vice-versa.