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News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:05 pm

I'm quite particular about approximate scale, so while the voyager Shockwave and Megatron figs look great, I'm trying to hold out for a leader class version of both.

I know leader class DOTM OP is a japan exclusive, but what about the Decepticon leaders?

Any chance we'll be seeing leader class DOTM Megatron and/or Shockwave?

News Credits: 6 · by **Jacob P. Galvatron** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:22 pm

As far as I know, we aren't. But, it's not impossible, and I'd love to have leader versions as well, so I'm hoping too.

by **vbann** » Mon May 16, 2011 11:40 pm

after the movie is released, everything will become clear.

News Credits: 12 · by **robofreak** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:21 am

I think we'll know more after the Botcon announcements.

It's possible, but I think the real question should be this:

"How many threads are we going to see about DOTM Decepticon Leader Class toys"

by **Xterminator** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:40 am

robofreak wrote:I think we'll know more after the Botcon announcements.

It's possible, but I think the real question should be this:

"How many threads are we going to see about DOTM Decepticon Leader Class toys"

Many many more ... ! Because big bad Decepticon toys shouldn't look dwarfed when compared to Leader OP :-)

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Tue May 17, 2011 5:18 am

Xterminator wrote:
robofreak wrote:I think we'll know more after the Botcon announcements.

It's possible, but I think the real question should be this:

"How many threads are we going to see about DOTM Decepticon Leader Class toys"

Many many more ... ! Because big bad Decepticon toys shouldn't look dwarfed when compared to Leader OP

Yeah, there will be many more.

Remember: we didn't find out about Starscream until RotF was out on DVD. If they give us Megatron they'll have plenty of time to make it good. Except for the monkey arms that they will undoubtedly spoil the figure with.

by **dinogeist** » Tue May 17, 2011 5:41 am

Xterminator wrote:
robofreak wrote:I think we'll know more after the Botcon announcements.

It's possible, but I think the real question should be this:

"How many threads are we going to see about DOTM Decepticon Leader Class toys"

Many many more ... ! Because big bad Decepticon toys shouldn't look dwarfed when compared to Leader OP

Since botcon 2011 is on 2-3 weeks away. I'm holding out all hopes that Hasbro/Takara will answer many fans questions.

Personally I'd love to see a few new mold dotm NON-MOVIE characters toys in voyager & leader sized.

Having a leader sized DOTM Blitzwing or DOTM Leader sized overlord would be awesome.

by **Valandar** » Tue May 17, 2011 6:16 am

Just remember - we didn't get The Fallen in Leader size.

As for other Decepticons, who knows.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:46 am

I would LOVE a Leader Megatron to go with Sentinel.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:49 am

I'm hoping that leader Megs is in the works, but his alt. mode would be too spoilerific for us now.

But that's just me.

by **Valandar** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:22 am

RhA wrote:I'm hoping that leader Megs is in the works, but his alt. mode would be too spoilerific for us now.

But that's just me.

How could his alt mode be spoileriffic? We already know what it is, and the Voyager class has the alt mode he has in the movie. Unless you think he'll become Galvatron some time during the show.

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Tue May 17, 2011 5:09 pm

Valandar wrote:Just remember - we didn't get The Fallen in Leader size.

As for other Decepticons, who knows.

True, but the Fallen was such a non-entity in ROTF that he just didn't justify having a Leader class figure. I think he only got a voyager class toy because he was supposed to be the main villain. Besides, he didn't even have an alt mode in the movie. They had to make up some Cyber-yoga mode for his voyager toy.

DOTM Megatron and Shockwave, on the other hand, look like they'll play very important parts in the movie, which should be enough reason for Hasbro to make LC figs for the both of them.

Here's hoping that there actually are LC Megs and Shockwave figs in the making just like HFTD LC Starscream.

by **dinogeist** » Tue May 17, 2011 6:46 pm

Honestly whether or not DOTM will have any leader sized decepticons toys. it all depends on how long the DOTM toy line keeps pumping out new molds.

I noticed ROTF kept pumping out newer molds a bit longer than the 2007 movie toy line did.

For what it's worth ROTF was almost a 2 year toy line. that kept releasing new molds up until the last minute. as ROTF kept adding newer prefixes like "autobot alliance" "hunt for the decepticon" & "reveal the shield"

So if DOTM's toy line follows in the same path that ROTF did. their no doubt in my mind we'll at the very least see at least ONE NEW MOLD DECEPTICON toy released in the DOTM toy line.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:23 pm

Leader Shockwave = Bad Ass. I'd like to see it.

by **dinogeist** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:46 pm

Gyrotron wrote:Leader Shockwave = Bad Ass. I'd like to see it.

I'd buy it only if it's a pre-earth Cybertronian Shockwave form. that looks as much like the 1985 shockwave toy/cartoon designs as possible. yes it needs a space laser gun alt mode in order for me to buy it.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:07 pm

deathy wrote:
Gyrotron wrote:Leader Shockwave = Bad Ass. I'd like to see it.

I'd buy it only if it's a pre-earth Cybertronian Shockwave form. that looks as much like the 1985 shockwave toy/cartoon designs as possible. yes it needs a space laser gun alt mode in order for me to buy it.

Pre earth? Even the Voyager Class is a Cybertrionion Tank. He doesn't even have an Earth Vehicle Form.

by **dinogeist** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:09 pm

Gyrotron wrote:
deathy wrote:
Gyrotron wrote:Leader Shockwave = Bad Ass. I'd like to see it.

I'd buy it only if it's a pre-earth Cybertronian Shockwave form. that looks as much like the 1985 shockwave toy/cartoon designs as possible. yes it needs a space laser gun alt mode in order for me to buy it.

Pre earth? Even the Voyager Class is a Cybertrionion Tank. He doesn't even have an Earth Vehicle Form.

my mistake.

by **Dr. Magnatron** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:13 pm

Valandar wrote:Just remember - we didn't get The Fallen in Leader size.

As for other Decepticons, who knows.

Yeah, still REALLY annoyed about that!

It'd make good business sense for Hasbro to wait to announce their plans for DOTM leader villains, but I for one hope they come through on at least Shockwave, preferably both.

It'd be cool if someone had a rundown of when previous leader figs were announced, eh?

by **Shock to the wav3** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:30 am

(SPOILER ALERT) Sentinel Prime is supposed to be a villain in DOTM.

News Credits: 1 · by **dirk2243** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:00 pm

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm quite particular about approximate scale, so while the voyager Shockwave and Megatron figs look great, I'm trying to hold out for a leader class version of both.

I know leader class DOTM OP is a japan exclusive, but what about the Decepticon leaders?

Any chance we'll be seeing leader class DOTM Megatron and/or Shockwave?

I'm beyong big on scale, but to be realistic I keep most of mine at voyager and below. Jetfire is my only leader because 1. he was only released that way, 2. he would have been much bigger then Prime.

In DOTM, Megs alt mode looks to be much bigger then Prime. And Sentinel looks to be bigger then Prime too. I've kind of given up on Scale. But glad ravage and wheelie came out in legends. I'd love to see a legends lazerbeak. A leader Fallen would have been awesome if more realistic looking then the crappy voyager version. Even Soundwave got the short end of the stick as a Deluxe.

Maybe introduce another scale? But I'm not going back and re-starting my collection.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:52 pm

Yeah, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but haven't you figured it out, there is a villain in the leader class already.

It's not even a spoiler, read the back and tell me that it doesn't scream, yeah not gonna happen.

I'm still hoping for a Leader Blackout/Grindor PLEASE!

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:29 pm

dirk2243 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm quite particular about approximate scale, so while the voyager Shockwave and Megatron figs look great, I'm trying to hold out for a leader class version of both.

I know leader class DOTM OP is a japan exclusive, but what about the Decepticon leaders?

Any chance we'll be seeing leader class DOTM Megatron and/or Shockwave?

I'm beyong big on scale, but to be realistic I keep most of mine at voyager and below. Jetfire is my only leader because 1. he was only released that way, 2. he would have been much bigger then Prime.

In DOTM, Megs alt mode looks to be much bigger then Prime. And Sentinel looks to be bigger then Prime too. I've kind of given up on Scale. But glad ravage and wheelie came out in legends. I'd love to see a legends lazerbeak. A leader Fallen would have been awesome if more realistic looking then the crappy voyager version. Even Soundwave got the short end of the stick as a Deluxe.

Maybe introduce another scale? But I'm not going back and re-starting my collection.

If the DOTM line maintained the design complexity of ROTF, I wouldn't mind starting a DOTM collection in voyager class. But looking at voyager OP with his ugly faux chest panels and comparing that to ROTF's voyager OP, I just can't put the money on the counter for that, even if it does come with a trailer.

RodimalToyota wrote:Yeah, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but haven't you figured it out, there is a villain in the leader class already.

It's not even a spoiler, read the back and tell me that it doesn't scream, yeah not gonna happen.

I'm still hoping for a Leader Blackout/Grindor PLEASE!

Be that as it may, I don't think Hasbro would stop milking the DOTM line without giving us a leader class Megs or Shockwave. Call it wishful thinking, but a DOTM line without LC Megs and Shockwave just doesn't feel complete.

deathy wrote:Honestly whether or not DOTM will have any leader sized decepticons toys. it all depends on how long the DOTM toy line keeps pumping out new molds.

I noticed ROTF kept pumping out newer molds a bit longer than the 2007 movie toy line did.

For what it's worth ROTF was almost a 2 year toy line. that kept releasing new molds up until the last minute. as ROTF kept adding newer prefixes like "autobot alliance" "hunt for the decepticon" & "reveal the shield"

So if DOTM's toy line follows in the same path that ROTF did. their no doubt in my mind we'll at the very least see at least ONE NEW MOLD DECEPTICON toy released in the DOTM toy line.

Amen to that. Megatron's Mack truck mode deserves a leader class.

by **zenosaurus_x** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:42 pm

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm quite particular about approximate scale, so while the voyager Shockwave and Megatron figs look great, I'm trying to hold out for a leader class version of both.

Heh, me too...I tend to obsess over scale. I think it's a bit odd that neither of the villains are getting larger toys...I sure would like them. But then, with the other lines, things were appearing a bit later so we may get one anyways.

I just wonder how they could even improve ShockWave...his Voyager looks almost perfectly accurate.
On the note of scale...why can we never get a decent Voyager Ratchet?

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:35 pm

zenosaurus_x wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm quite particular about approximate scale, so while the voyager Shockwave and Megatron figs look great, I'm trying to hold out for a leader class version of both.

Heh, me too...I tend to obsess over scale. I think it's a bit odd that neither of the villains are getting larger toys...I sure would like them. But then, with the other lines, things were appearing a bit later so we may get one anyways.

I just wonder how they could even improve ShockWave...his Voyager looks almost perfectly accurate.
On the note of scale...why can we never get a decent Voyager Ratchet?

I do have a [wishful] theory for why we still haven't seen Leader class Megs or Shockwave. I don't have any proof for this, but maybe ROTF LC Megs didn't sell too well because it was either sub-par or it wasn't film accurate enough, so Hasbro decides to take its time to perfect the LC toy for DOTM this time around. Please take this with a pinch of salt, and a healthy does of positive thinking. :lol:

As for Ratchet, I think Hasbro only goes as far as "relative scale." They just make sure a voyager truck is bigger than a deluxe car, but not down to perfect scale, as in deluxe Jazz's Solstice being slightly smaller than deluxe Bee's Camaro.

News Credits: 1 · by **dirk2243** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:04 pm

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
zenosaurus_x wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm quite particular about approximate scale, so while the voyager Shockwave and Megatron figs look great, I'm trying to hold out for a leader class version of both.

Heh, me too...I tend to obsess over scale. I think it's a bit odd that neither of the villains are getting larger toys...I sure would like them. But then, with the other lines, things were appearing a bit later so we may get one anyways.

I just wonder how they could even improve ShockWave...his Voyager looks almost perfectly accurate.
On the note of scale...why can we never get a decent Voyager Ratchet?

I do have a [wishful] theory for why we still haven't seen Leader class Megs or Shockwave. I don't have any proof for this, but maybe ROTF LC Megs didn't sell too well because it was either sub-par or it wasn't film accurate enough, so Hasbro decides to take its time to perfect the LC toy for DOTM this time around. Please take this with a pinch of salt, and a healthy does of positive thinking.

As for Ratchet, I think Hasbro only goes as far as "relative scale." They just make sure a voyager truck is bigger than a deluxe car, but not down to perfect scale, as in deluxe Jazz's Solstice being slightly smaller than deluxe Bee's Camaro.

I'd love to see a Voyager size Bonecrusher and Brawl. Yeah, Shockwave isn't bad as a voyager, but prime is beyond lacking. But Megs's truck version is well deserving of a leader class.