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News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:01 pm

BEHOLD...

Mudflap deco Ironhide!

by **all_the_primes** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:12 pm

cannonfodder4000 wrote:
all_the_primes wrote:More like, " WHAT HAVE YOU DONE???!!" *crumbles away* AKA Ironhide death scene. That's what I thought at first sight.

Th- that's not how you use AKA.

Well, you know what I mean right? I didn't have enough time to use the right word. I was trying to be quick. I was in a HUNGRY situation! Still, IT is his death scene. Coming to think of it, that makes me want a Cosmic Rust Ironhide.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:25 pm

Kibble wrote:BEHOLD...

Mudflap deco Ironhide!

OMG you're right. Once seen, it cannot be unseen...

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:45 pm

That looks horrible!

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimus1138** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:48 pm

I suppose I might end up getting this, but I kind of wish they had made the whole thing red rather than just the top. I'm really glad they remembered the yellow stripe, though.

by **lbullock7** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:03 pm

I really want to see this guy in better lighting, here he looks orange :SICK:

but still so far I like hes like a mix between g1 paint style and movieverse.

by **quickmixed** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:05 pm

Kibble wrote:BEHOLD...

Mudflap deco Ironhide!

My first thoughts exactly! Hasbro must have had a heap of old Mudflap plastic laying around!

News Credits: 1 · by **Solrac333** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:36 pm

And they give us a red one with THAT crappy voyager. :BANG_HEAD:

Would have been nice with a Recon version.

by **Sideslap** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:59 pm

That red looks a lot more orange then it does red to me. Also the gash is lame. Why are they giving him the same weapon? if he's supposed to be "cannon force" maybe he should be covered in cannons like the wreckers or something a la Recon Ironhide. I mean at least with fire burst prime you get something new.

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:17 pm

I think the "Cannon Force" title comes from the RotF Fast Action Battlers Ironhide toy, which has red in its colour scheme. There was also another RotF Ironhide toy, a Legends class figure, that was red. I think the prominent scar over its right eye references the RotF design of Ironhide.

by **Sunspot** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:54 pm

You know when you're waiting a long time for something and then when it finally happens its slightly (only slightly) dissapoining?
I wish it was the old mold, and i dont like the look of that scar, and theres too much black, and they should have chose either black or the orange stripe, not both.

but overall im glad to finally have this. if only i could get ahold of rescue ratchet.
next they need to make a g1 leader optimus prime.

by **Cyberion** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:42 pm

Seeing as how Ironhide died in the movie, I'm not motivated to get the black one, much less a red one called "Cannon Force" which by the way, where are the cannon? Isn't that an axe?

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:23 am

Cyber_Tek wrote:Seeing as how Ironhide died in the movie, I'm not motivated to get the black one, much less a red one called "Cannon Force" which by the way, where are the cannon? Isn't that an axe?

He's got the cannon from the original DOTM Ironhide. The dude with the axe is Fireburst Optimus Prime.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:47 am

Time to dust out the ole' VOY Rescue Ratchet and DLX G1 Deco Jazz for some sweet posing time.

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:10 am

Where are the cannons?

by **Autobot Strider** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:36 am

I don't really like it; I would have preferred a red repaint of the Deluxe mold, myself, which is my favorite Ironhide.

I think the scar is supposed to be there; after all, in the movie he sports a scar across his eye.

I think the half red/half black idea was interesting, but if people want a red Ironhide, give them a bloody red Ironhide (literally!). That red is too close to orange, though it could be the lighting, and I think it looks awkward on the head, as though the details are washed out by that colour.

by **Cyberion** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:13 am

Mykltron wrote:Where are the cannons?

That was my thought. In the package I see a mechtech weapon, but the posed figure isn't holding that or any other cannons. When you call a figure "Canon Force", I expect at least one impressive cannon on each arm or more than that in vehicle mode, but that just isn't happening here. I'd love to see a side by side comparison between this and the black voyager Iron Hide. Hasbro probably wouldn't want that because it would become apparent that the Black Ironhide is better and this repaint is little more than a repaint with a fancy name that just doesn't cut it. I love collecting Transformers, but I'm not going to collect multiple versions of a figure that are just renamed repaints. There has to be something unique or different about a figure to warrant me collecting multiple versions. Already went through that with OP. Not going through that with Bumble Bee or any of the others.

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:36 am

El Duque wrote:For those of you who have been patiently awaiting a red movie universe Ironhide we present Transformer DOTM Cannon Force Ironhide. This repaint of wave one Voyager Ironhide is part of the wave four assortment.

For those of us that have been impatiently waiting even more! :grin:

It's about damn time! :APPLAUSE:

I've been waiting for something like this since, what, '07?

by **Cyberion** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:13 am

I honestly don't see the attraction. It's just a repaint of an existing figure. Repaint your black Voyager Ironhide. It would probably look even better than this red "cannon farce" Ironhide.

News Credits: 4 · by **freaky777** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:47 am

On the fence.. have to see the review of this guy to decide if hes actually worth it.

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:30 pm

Cyber_Tek wrote:I honestly don't see the attraction. It's just a repaint of an existing figure. Repaint your black Voyager Ironhide. It would probably look even better than this red "cannon farce" Ironhide.

I don't quite know why this comes up so often, but not all the fandom kitbashes, customizes and repaints.

by **Cyberion** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:36 pm

Covenant wrote:
Cyber_Tek wrote:I honestly don't see the attraction. It's just a repaint of an existing figure. Repaint your black Voyager Ironhide. It would probably look even better than this red "cannon farce" Ironhide.

I don't quite know why this comes up so often, but not all the fandom kitbashes, customizes and repaints.

Perhaps not, but I personally see no point owning multiple numbers of the exact same mold of a figure that is little more than a repaint of an existing mold with no change in the figure other than color. As an example, the first wave DOTM Sideswipe was a convertible with one type of mechtech weapon. The second wave Walmart exclusive Sideswipe has a roof, and other differences beside the mechtech weapon. Not just a repaint of the same mold. I can appreciate Hasbro wanting to make money from collectors, but to just repaint an existing mold of Ironhide with no difference other than color, is pointless to me, unless you simply must have everything Hasbro produces.

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:08 pm

Cyber_Tek wrote:
Covenant wrote:
Cyber_Tek wrote:I honestly don't see the attraction. It's just a repaint of an existing figure. Repaint your black Voyager Ironhide. It would probably look even better than this red "cannon farce" Ironhide.

I don't quite know why this comes up so often, but not all the fandom kitbashes, customizes and repaints.

Perhaps not, but I personally see no point owning multiple numbers of the exact same mold of a figure that is little more than a repaint of an existing mold with no change in the figure other than color. As an example, the first wave DOTM Sideswipe was a convertible with one type of mechtech weapon. The second wave Walmart exclusive Sideswipe has a roof, and other differences beside the mechtech weapon. Not just a repaint of the same mold. I can appreciate Hasbro wanting to make money from collectors, but to just repaint an existing mold of Ironhide with no difference other than color, is pointless to me, unless you simply must have everything Hasbro produces.

I understand what you are saying.. I don't think this mold or paint scheme is attractive at all but some collectors are stoked for a red Ironhide. Plus, if you didn't buy the regular DOTM Voyager repaint, this wouldn't be a repaint in your collection.

PS: the walmart exclusive is a repaint of the HDTD Sidearm Sideswipe

Like Covenant on Facebook · by **Covenant** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:28 pm

Cyber_Tek wrote:
Covenant wrote:
Cyber_Tek wrote:I honestly don't see the attraction. It's just a repaint of an existing figure. Repaint your black Voyager Ironhide. It would probably look even better than this red "cannon farce" Ironhide.

I don't quite know why this comes up so often, but not all the fandom kitbashes, customizes and repaints.

Perhaps not, but I personally see no point owning multiple numbers of the exact same mold of a figure that is little more than a repaint of an existing mold with no change in the figure other than color. As an example, the first wave DOTM Sideswipe was a convertible with one type of mechtech weapon. The second wave Walmart exclusive Sideswipe has a roof, and other differences beside the mechtech weapon. Not just a repaint of the same mold. I can appreciate Hasbro wanting to make money from collectors, but to just repaint an existing mold of Ironhide with no difference other than color, is pointless to me, unless you simply must have everything Hasbro produces.

I don't own any of the Movie Ironhide molds to date. I've been waiting since the first film for them to produce a proper red movie-styled Ironhide that wasn't a FaB or Legends figure. It's the highest of selling points for me in this instance. I somehow doubt I'm alone. In fact, chatting with fellow fans across boards for years now, I know I'm not. It's not always a completist being targeted. I'm sure the red Ironhide will appeal to some youngers TF fans & kids, it certainly has a basis with fans into G1 no matter the age, and having one or more of a same mold with color differences isn't always an issue for some buyers.

by **Cyberion** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:42 pm

"PS: the walmart exclusive is a repaint of the HDTD Sidearm Sideswipe

"

Ok, but since I didn't buy either the HDTD Sideswipe or the first wave DOTM, I did get the Walmart exclusive. One Sideswipe is enough for me.

I'm not faulting collectors for wanting a red Ironhide due to G1 roots. It's Hasbro I fault for producing repaints of existing figures just to make more money. If there was something unique about this red Ironhide other than the different color, I'd see a point to it. If it works for you, by all means get it and enjoy it. But if they do yet another repaint of Ironhide beyond this one, you know it's for no other reason than to make money. Hasbro had better hope Takara doesn't produce an Ironhide figure. Takara figures are better, in my opinion.