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News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:47 pm

So while looking around on ebay I spotted this item and right away I knew this would skyrocket even if opened. Then as I looked at the pics I started to have some doubts. I know that the CHMS version does not "button" up very well when in alt mode. Some of the panels and what not don't tab in all the way so that itself is a huge dissapointment.

But is it just me or does it seem like there is some minor wear in some of the paint? Like around the headlights perhaps? I've heard that the Henkei line has been known to chip in the shiny paint parts. Does that look like paint chipping on the back of the spoiler on the right while in bot mode? I know things can happen as far as over all wear I get it, but something don't look right.

What's to say this isn't a "tooled-around-with" CHMS with a Henkei package to go along with? Then again I could be wrong, it's been known to happen...so watcha all think? :VEHI:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRANSFORMERS-HE ... 874wt_1026

News Credits: 36 · by **Pretender Skywarp** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:52 pm

Link or pics?

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:09 pm

Dam I did it again, ok there!

News Credits: 36 · by **Pretender Skywarp** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:30 pm

There's a gallery of the original here, it looks legit to me...?

KO's aren't my area of expertise tho', was the packaging done for the CHMS one? I couldn't see a collector wantng to part with the box for figure like that ....

Edit: Ryan has a gallery on the site #-o

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:33 pm

I googled it and found other auctions of the CHMS Wildrider (which they do advertise as such, thankfully) and came to one conclusion:

I hate how they look so much like the real thing down to the packaging :BANG_HEAD:

by **blackout446** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:41 pm

I hope so he looks so badass!

by **Valandar** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:10 pm

Nemesis Destron wrote:I know that the CHMS version does not "button" up very well when in alt mode. Some of the panels and what not don't tab in all the way so that itself is a huge dissapointment.

I should note that this is not neccessarily the case. Every version of that mold I own tabs and fits wonderfully.

by **Breakdown 2099** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:09 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I googled it and found other auctions of the CHMS Wildrider (which they do advertise as such, thankfully) and came to one conclusion:

I hate how they look so much like the real thing down to the packaging

I agree. It's scary how much they look like the real thing and there on sale from $32.00, check them out:
http://www.ioffer.com/i/transformers-cl ... -506096751
If your intention is to suit him up in the Shadow armor, it might be worth considering the cheaper version. He is going to be hidden away anyway.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:45 am

I'd be weary. There are enough people on ebay who go around selling fakes as the real deal. Like this guy.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:24 am

Valandar wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I know that the CHMS version does not "button" up very well when in alt mode. Some of the panels and what not don't tab in all the way so that itself is a huge dissapointment.

I should note that this is not neccessarily the case. Every version of that mold I own tabs and fits wonderfully.

Interesting, it must be a case of "hit & miss". I bought both the CHMS Shattered Glass Roddy and Wildrider and both did not tab in very well in alt-mode like the real ones would I'm sure. :VEHI:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:42 am

It Is Him wrote:I'd be weary. There are enough people on ebay who go around selling fakes as the real deal. Like this guy.

Is that seller who I think he is?

News Credits: 10 · by **gavinfuzzy** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:03 am

fenrir72 wrote:
It Is Him wrote:I'd be weary. There are enough people on ebay who go around selling fakes as the real deal. Like this guy.

Is that seller who I think he is?

The one that has the white Henkei Magnus? Hmm... I seriously think that Magnus is a KO now... But Robotkingdom just made a listing for that Magnus as a legit product. $60. :-?

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:03 am

gavinfuzzy wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
It Is Him wrote:I'd be weary. There are enough people on ebay who go around selling fakes as the real deal. Like this guy.

Is that seller who I think he is?

The one that has the white Henkei Magnus? Hmm... I seriously think that Magnus is a KO now... But Robotkingdom just made a listing for that Magnus as a legit product. $60.

Yes, same guy. Also, I just threw a Magnus/Skywarp MISB set on ebay. Hopefully I'll still get a decent amount for it

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:46 am

gavinfuzzy wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:I'd be weary. There are enough people on ebay who go around selling fakes as the real deal. Like this guy.

Is that seller who I think he is?

The one that has the white Henkei Magnus? Hmm... I seriously think that Magnus is a KO now... But Robotkingdom just made a listing for that Magnus as a legit product. $60.

why don't he put a reserve on his auctions if he doesn't want to sell it for "pennies"?

anyway ordered the Henkei Ultra Magnus! woot

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:11 am

By the way guys, I was recently ripped off and bought a KO Dai Atlas locally, thinking it was the real deal. You can never be too careful. It even happens to the best of us, not just the new-to-collecting scrubs.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:07 pm

What I am curious about is can a KO make it out before the original...regarding UM I mean, has it ever happened before? :VEHI:

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:38 am

Yeah, actually, it has. Back when Animated first was being launched, some of those first waves of toys wound up in Chinese stores as knock-offs before they arrived in America. Regarding Ultra Magnus, are you asking if it could be a KO? Anything's possible, but more than likely, no. If I were to guess, it's probably a pre-production sample. Until recently, production leaks happened frequently, and factory employees would be able to sneak out toys and sell them on ebay (I acquired a pre-production SG Prime that way). After Hasbro moved their operations around in the past two years or so, we haven't been seeing many leaks. To be honest, I hope this continues, because factories leaking the latest toys again is exciting!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:51 am

It Is Him wrote:By the way guys, I was recently ripped off and bought a KO Dai Atlas locally, thinking it was the real deal. You can never be too careful. It even happens to the best of us, not just the new-to-collecting scrubs.

it a Korean Dai Atlas? Sorry to digress.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:47 am

fenrir72 wrote:
It Is Him wrote:By the way guys, I was recently ripped off and bought a KO Dai Atlas locally, thinking it was the real deal. You can never be too careful. It even happens to the best of us, not just the new-to-collecting scrubs.

it a Korean Dai Atlas? Sorry to digress.

Yeah, I think so. It came without the box and the micromaster, so there weren't any immediate tells that it was that version. Ryan (Seibertron) mentioned it could be a fake, and after talking to the seller's spouse, she confirmed it. If you're curious, I just made a gallery for it over the weekend here.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:59 am

The face paint job is a give away. Though not always accurate but his Autobot label/sigil is to blotted(?). Iirc back in the early 90's, a lot of Taiwan K.O. flooded the market. Lio Kaiser, Road Cesar, and Skygarry. only difference was that their label sheets didn't have the Cybertron/Destron sigils. But who knows, some may have been released with the KO symbols.

Thanks for the pics btw.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:12 am

fenrir72 wrote:The face paint job is a give away. Though not always accurate but his Autobot label/sigil is to blotted(?). Iirc back in the early 90's, a lot of Taiwan K.O. flooded the market. Lio Kaiser, Road Cesar, and Skygarry. only difference was that their label sheets didn't have the Cybertron/Destron sigils. But who knows, some may have been released with the KO symbols.

Thanks for the pics btw.

I realized that Sky Garry was KO'd, but I didn't know about the others until I after I purchased Dai Atlas. Thanks for the tip about the insignias, I'll have to remember that one in the future.