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by **Doubledealer93** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:06 pm

im not complaing about this magnus, i think its awesome, but what was wrong with this one? why do people hate it?

by **RAcast** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:16 pm

Doubledealer93 wrote:im not complaing about this magnus, i think its awesome, but what was wrong with this one? why do people hate it?

Okay, perhaps I should have been more clear, sorry. It DOES look good. Like, sitting there, in a decent pose (provided you cover up those struts), it looks good. Again, on paper.

But I've had it in hand I'm utterly disappointed. In person I just don't like it, which is a shame, because originally I thought UM would be the standout from his wave. As it stands, I LOVE Thundertron, and PRiD UM is an easy pass. Also, that back kibble bugs me the way it sits above-his-shoulders enough to be in the way of the head and lightpiping but not-high-enough to be Huffer-esque. It just looks like it's in the way.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:42 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

by **Doubledealer93** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:44 pm

RAcast wrote:
Doubledealer93 wrote:im not complaing about this magnus, i think its awesome, but what was wrong with this one? why do people hate it?

Okay, perhaps I should have been more clear, sorry. It DOES look good. Like, sitting there, in a decent pose (provided you cover up those struts), it looks good. Again, on paper.

But I've had it in hand I'm utterly disappointed. In person I just don't like it, which is a shame, because originally I thought UM would be the standout from his wave. As it stands, I LOVE Thundertron, and PRiD UM is an easy pass. Also, that back kibble bugs me the way it sits above-his-shoulders enough to be in the way of the head and lightpiping but not-high-enough to be Huffer-esque. It just looks like it's in the way.

understandable, i am really disappointed that he has a real lack of paint too. he could have had much better paint.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:54 pm

Hmm, I'm a sucker for Magnus...

Yes the Prime Rid version has its flaws but all in all is pretty nice.

however I truly love the rid OP mold, and hopefully with the armor it will look great with good paint applications.

I'm kind of looking forward to it. It will work nicely in my ever growing Magnus display.

Not as large as my Prime display, but still.

Though it does kind of leave the question of why discard the RID Magnus mold so quickly in favor a retool of Prime.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:03 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

http://comicbookrealm.com/cover-scan/f6 ... -2ri-b.jpg

That model is bad and it should feel bad. I much prefer the look of the Cyberverse and RID toys.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:06 pm

That Bot wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

That model is bad and it should feel bad. I much prefer the look of the Cyberverse and RID toys.

I quite like that model. >:oP

by **RAcast** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:14 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
That Bot wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

That model is bad and it should feel bad. I much prefer the look of the Cyberverse and RID toys.

I quite like that model.

I do too, it feels much more like Ultra magnus. No weird kibble, nice chunky shoulders, the chest is straight out of G1, and he even has Optimus' legs. :lol:

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:16 pm

We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

by **Doubledealer93** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:20 pm

That Bot wrote:We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

bring it

by **Hypershock** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:22 pm

let's not forget we saw this guy in-show in the orion pax storyline, and he looks suspiciously like that lil guy

by **RAcast** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:28 pm

Hypershock wrote:let's not forget we saw this guy in-show in the orion pax storyline, and he looks suspiciously like that lil guy

Good point! I'd forgotten about that.

Doubledealer93 wrote:
That Bot wrote:We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

bring it

Need a wing-man?

Website · by **STngAR** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:29 pm

One of these days I will own one of these wonky colored prototypes. :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:33 pm

Hypershock wrote:let's not forget we saw this guy in-show in the orion pax storyline, and he looks suspiciously like that lil guy

I do remember that. It got me wondering why the two toys Magnus got were, first, so similar, and second, so different from that. Still, the "truck cab shoulders" Magnus has really appealed to me since I first saw pictures of it, and that's the Magnus I want to see in the show. My first Ultra Magnus was the original RID Magnus (from 2001), so I never knew he was "supposed" to be Prime with armor until they started the G1 reissues in 2002 or so. I'm fine with Magnus having his own look, and I really like the transformations of the two Prime Magnuses.

Doubledealer93 wrote:
That Bot wrote:We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

bring it

Thank you for getting that.

by **timcourtois** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:40 pm

Hm... the Magnus mold on that comic book cover looks a lot like it's just a modified version of the Optimus Prime digital model.

I wonder if they changed Magnus' design (from the first PRID voyager toy) because it would be cheaper for him to appear in the show as a modified Optimus. Hence the new toy design...?

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:45 pm

Magnus is probably using an altered Optimus model in the third season (if he's in the third season) because Optimus is upgrading into the Beast Hunters Voyager and they didn't want his old model to go to waste. It also saves money to use on another bot.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:51 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:Magnus is probably using an altered Optimus model in the third season (if he's in the third season) because Optimus is upgrading into the Beast Hunters Voyager and they didn't want his old model to go to waste. It also saves money to use on another bot.

That's an interesting point. I hadn't taken into account Optimus's new look, meaning Magnus wouldn't look like such an obvious remodeling. And considering we saw Magnus way back at the beginning of last season, it makes you wonder how far in advance they plan this stuff.

by **Ultra Markus** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:22 am

RAcast wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because the PRiD mold is awful? I certainly won't miss it, what with the absurdly TINY shoulder struts, obnoxious back kibble, and weirdly proportioned legs.

Awful? I like it, I don't think you know what awful is or your not talking about the same thing

by **Ultra Markus** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:24 am

PrymeStriker wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

Uh, SO... they already made the toy

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:02 am

Ultra Markus wrote:Uh, SO... they already made the toy

Why does that matter? Smokescreen didn't turn out looking anything like his Arms Micron toy, and that was made (while not released) way before he appeared on Prime. Models change, it's a part of the development.

And like I said before, they probably changed it to Optimus' model to save money for another guy joining us in the third season.

by **roBROmanceFTW** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:28 am

I like both Ultra Magnuses...AND I WILL HAVE BOTH ULTRA MAGNUSES... :BOWDOWN:

Let's hope this isn't some third party add-on, or blood will be shed.

by **frogbat** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:49 am

I fall in the camp of not liking the 1st ultra Magnus toy we got. I'm a huge fan of the original g1 character and toy. He was my de facto autobot leader till I got my power master prime. I'd love to see a proper homage or remake of the original... The prob with the prime toy for me is that he perhaps borrowed too much from the tfa version. Too little red, rubbish weapon gimmick, and useless alt mode... Still no airachnid but defo below average.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:19 am

frogbat wrote:The prob with the prime toy for me is that he perhaps borrowed too much from the tfa version. Too little red, rubbish weapon gimmick, and useless alt mode... Still no airachnid but defo below average.

Really? I think it's the best Powerizer toy we got. It's the only one with a locking weapon, the clear parts are well-integrated, the vehicle parts integrate well into his robot mode (excepting the backpack), he has good proportions and overall I really like his look. He's got a decent vehicle mode, and I feel he stands apart well enough from Animated Magnus.

I suppose it comes back to my earlier point that the other RID Magnus was my Ultra Magnus for a long time, and in fact besides that one the only other Ultra Magnus toys I have are the other iterations of Aligned Magnus. I didn't watch Animated when it aired, I've still only seen the first season after the fact, and Reissue and Classics Magnus never did much for me (before Fansproject but then it was too late).

by **toddstarz** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:42 am

roBROmanceFTW wrote:I like both Ultra Magnuses...AND I WILL HAVE BOTH ULTRA MAGNUSES... Let's hope this isn't some third party add-on, or blood will be shed.

/agree

more new ultra magnus will soften the wait for the inevitable MP Ultra Magnus