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[chuckdawg1999]

My closest Walmart and the last two Targets I've been to still had 9, 8 and 9 Coronation Starscreams...
Get that thing on clearance and get them off of the shelves!!

They shouldn't do that until after the holiday season, when this stuff usually gets sold. You DO NOT want TFs to gonon clearance regularly or else that means TFs may no longer be stocked. Them not flying off the shelves is proof that the collector market alone can't sustain retail Transformers lines like SS.

I also think it was a mistake to release this at retail. This set screamed (pardon the pun) convention exclusive, a lot of collectors were put off buying the same Voyager mold again now with hands just to get the extra bits. A lower production run with some stellar packaging at a touch higher price would've done well, maybe.

[william-james88]

Crazy to think that there was a time when there were no decent G1 style Ironhide molds outside of one convention exclusive redeco. But now, not only do we have a G1 mold with the Siege toy, plus a more G1 accurate G1 mold with the Earthrise retool we now have an EVEN MORE accurate G1 mold with the upcoming Studio Series 86 toy. You can see the first image of it below. It's a cropped out image of the robot mode but it gives us a good enough idea that the mold is new. So, if this is indeed the toy we are getting, would you be replacing your Earthrise version? And most of all, are you glad that you no longer have to chase down that Earthrise version?

One last bit, we do not know the original source for the image so if you are the owner, let us know.

[Gearslide]

That looks w lot better than the previous Deluxe figure.

...Maybe THIS one will get a proper Shattered Glass Deco down the road?

[Talon523]

I'm good with the Earthrise release. However, I missed Ratchet, so I'll need to get him. Hopefully neither are exclusives.

[chuckdawg1999]

Is it possible this is a retool of Core Class Ratchet and thus a Core figure? It's hard to judge size and scale with just this image.

[Gearslide]

Is it possible this is a retool of Core Class Ratchet and thus a Core figure? It's hard to judge size and scale with just this image.

It's a Voyager Class figure.

[Sabrblade]

Is it possible this is a retool of Core Class Ratchet and thus a Core figure? It's hard to judge size and scale with just this image.

They look too different:

[Sowndwave76]

From the looks of this, I will probably cave & get it.
I would’ve preferred a painted windshield; a transparent one doesn’t add anything to either mode. And knowing the other windows won’t be transparent is even more of a reason to use opaque, painted plastic.
I’m also hopeful that this means this same mold will be used for Ratchet next year.

Also, I don’t think this is a core figure… Just imo from what I can see.

[blackeyedprime]

Until this mold comes out there is still no decent G1 molds outside of that convention exclusive (not inckuding MP or third party anyhoos) Not sure about the shoulders on this and will have to wait to see more photos.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

He has a head. So he isn't '86 accurate...

[Rodimus Prime]

I didn't have a problem with the robot mode of the ER figure, it was the vehicle mode. So if we do get a brand new SS86 Ironhide/Ratchet mold, that's what needs to be fixed.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Crazy to think that there was a time when there were no decent G1 style Ironhide molds outside of one convention exclusive redeco. But now, not only do we have a G1 mold with the Siege toy, plus a more G1 accurate G1 mold with the Earthrise retool we now have an EVEN MORE accurate G1 mold with the upcoming Studio Series 86 toy. You can see the first image of it below. It's a cropped out image of the robot mode but it gives us a good enough idea that the mold is new. So, if this is indeed the toy we are getting, would you be replacing your Earthrise version? And most of all, are you glad that you no longer have to chase down that Earthrise version?

One last bit, we do not know the original source for the image so if you are the owner, let us know.

This looks fake, like a third party figure. Too perfect.
If the alt mode looks good too, sell me the Ratchet version!

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Is it possible this is a retool of Core Class Ratchet and thus a Core figure? It's hard to judge size and scale with just this image.

They look too different:

They might share engineering. arms look similar. The kibble flaps end up on the front of the leg on ratchet, and side of the leg on Ironhide.

[chuckdawg1999]

He has a head. So he isn't '86 accurate...

That, that cut me deep bro. I need a moment.

Any chance this is an Authentics or Cyber Series figure?

[AllNewSuperRobot]

He has a head. So he isn't '86 accurate...

That, that cut me deep bro. I need a moment.

Any chance this is an Authentics or Cyber Series figure?

Seriously though. Some of these figures are going to need effects parts.

[Rodimus Prime]

Can't recreate the scene without a proper Megatron anyway, and we'll never get that. The designers pretty much said so.

[william-james88]

This was bound to confuse fans. While the Studio Series 86 line will have both Ratchet AND Ironhide this year, they are not the same class, and are entirely different molds. The Ironhide we just showed you is a voyager class toy, while the upcoming Ratchet is a core class toy. There will probably be redecos later on but for now, the two autobots are in different classes. Regarding Ratchet, the toy is now out in Taiwan and has been bought at retail. This means we have a better look at the toy through a video review (and screenshots). And this shows us his bot and alt mode at a different angle than we have seen before and it gives us a look at the backdrop we get with the toy which happens to be the shuttle cockpit where Ratchet had his last stand.

[ZeroWolf]

Still think Rachete is great for the price. Ironhide is a pleasant surprise being a new mold.

[Grahf_]

I have Botcon Ironhide.
I have Combiner Wars Ironhide.
I have Siege Ironhide.
I have Earthrise Ironhide.
I will get Studio Series '86 Ironhide.

I will not sell any of the other figures either as I'm at that point in my collecting that I no longer need to sell older figures just because a newer/better one appears. I did however sell Universe 2.0 Ironhide because while I did like it, it just didn't work very well as a whole and I became as disappointed with it as he looked with his droopy head. Okay I might sell Siege Ironhide but only because I picked up two to do a black custom of one but they got around to doing that before I could. I'll sell my second Siege Ratchet too even though they never did yellow or green Ratchet at any point. I'd sell my third Ratchet as well but I already started his greenification even though I never did finish it. If I knew how much that figure would end up going for, I would've picked up more when they were clogging the Walgreens shelves in my extended area. I could've had as many of him as I have PotP Wreck-Gar and I stopped at eight of him.

It would be awesome if the eventual voyager Ratchet comes with two guns for better accuracy. I always loved that it was the medic and not the weapons specialist that pulled out the two guns. Shame that it didn't help his accuracy any.

One hope I have is that I want at least the Earthrise mold to released as Energon Towline at some point. It just feels like such a wasted opportunity.

Oh and I thought they were going to stop the translucent windows? It's not like this is part of Legacy and has the same gimmick with the weapons. Not only the chest has it but it looks like some of those leg flaps are made out of it too. That's cool I guess for the vehicle mode having Translucent windows and all but it doesn't do anything for me. They're prone to breaking and red is a difficult color to paint match with as we already know from Earthrise Ironhide. I do appreciate that the front hip skirts are separate pieces and not a single piece as on the Earthrise Seeker mold. Or rather, that's how it appears.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

He has a head. So he isn't '86 accurate...

That, that cut me deep bro. I need a moment.

Any chance this is an Authentics or Cyber Series figure?

no

[Cyber Bishop]

With the way figures have been getting leaked like this before any real official pix/info from Hasbro I think it looks Legit, deluxe proper Ironhide. Ill get him for sure.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Can't recreate the scene without a proper Megatron anyway, and we'll never get that. The designers pretty much said so.

This is the closest they will likely ever allow.

[Razorbeast88]

Not bad, better looking than the most recent Ironhides. Though I still think I'll stick with my iGear weapon specialist for now. Looks small hopefully he comes with a good amount of accessories

[Stormshot_Prime]

Seriously, this looks like everything and more that the WFC molds just simply were not. I might be speaking too soon, but those proportions just look so correct. Let’s hope we get a full sized Ratchet out of him too.

[Munkky]

I put my Earthrise Ironhide and Prowl set up for sale on Ebay last week, there's one day left on the auction, but now this new Ironhide has been leaked I'm guessing the resale value of the Earthrise version will drop, so I'm not expecting to get a good amount of money for the set. Either way, this looks a lot better than the Earthrise Ironhide, the only thing I'm not keen on is the face design, it reminds me too much of Blurr and his weird Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast face. Nevertheless, I'll definitely be buying this when it's out, but with the Core Ratchet already being a thing, I do wonder how long it will be before this mould is repainted into Ratchet. Perhaps they'll put Ratchet in Legacy instead?