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by **Deadpool.** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:40 pm

Why is it that the Jap versions are always better? :-?

I mean, the American version of Masked Rider sucked big time too, whereas the Japanese Kamen Rider is pretty good.....

News Credits: 553 · by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:25 pm

Deadpool. wrote:Why is it that the Jap versions are always better?

I mean, the American version of Masked Rider sucked big time too, whereas the Jap Kamen Rider is pretty good.....

For the record, most Japanese consider the word "Jap" offensive. You are probably just using it as an abbreviation for the word Japanese, but it's still offensive. "JP" or "JPN" are the prefered abbreviations.

As for why they're better, there are multiple reasons. The first is simply that the stories are written for a Japanese audience. So while Power Rangers takes Japanese footage and uses it to tell its own story, the original Japanese versions don't have to try to make footage work around a new story.

Next, while Super Sentai is primarily aimed at a younger audience, Japanese TV creators aren't under the impression that their audience are a bunch of idiots. I guess a nicer way of saying that is that they give their audience a bit more credit. They trust that, should they use a word or phrase that their viewers don't understand, they'll just ask their parents about it.

I couldn't agree more about the US version of Masked Rider sucking. Has anyone seen the new Masked Rider movie, The Next? I haven't gotten around to it, but the promo materials make it looks pretty sweet.

by **Deadpool.** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:29 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:For the record, most Japanese consider the word "Jap" offensive. You are probably just using it as an abbreviation for the word Japanese, but it's still offensive. "JP" or "JPN" are the prefered abbreviations.

Oops. My bad. :oops:

And The Next seems interesting.
I still have yet to watch the Den-O movie though....

News Credits: 553 · by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:53 pm

Deadpool. wrote:
And The Next seems interesting.
I still have yet to watch the Den-O movie though....

Ditto. I've been slacking. I never have time to watch movies anymore. I did get to see the new Evangelion movie, though. Eva is what Power Rangers always had the potential to be, imo. Amazing character drama w/ the occassional giant city-leveling brawl.

by **Deadpool.** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:57 pm

Uh, any idea what time does Den-O air in Japan? And which channel is it on?

News Credits: 553 · by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:09 pm

Deadpool. wrote:Uh, any idea what time does Den-O air in Japan? And which channel is it on?

Oh man, I remember when I had the time to watch television. Those were the days!

...the kind of boring days, I suppose.

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:17 pm

Meh, power rangers isn't very good anymore, just let it die in peace. However, and animated series seems dumb live action looks cooler

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:27 pm

What there are two different versions of the show?! :shock:

The original JPN (thanks Professor Smooth) and then there is US version?!

The same goes for Maskt Rider, maybe even Beatel bots?

Oh man this is confusing :BOOM:

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:08 pm

Dead Metal wrote:What there are two different versions of the show?!
The original JPN (thanks Professor Smooth) and then there is US version?!

The same goes for Maskt Rider, maybe even Beatel bots?

Oh man this is confusing

Yep. A lot of shows from back in the mid-'90s were taken from Japanese series'.

Masked Rider, Beetle Borgs, and VR Troopers are all examples. The latter two I really liked as a kid (For some reason), but they died because the Metal Hero phase kind of died down, and they ran out of usable footage from those series'.

News Credits: 2 · by **Bombus distinguendus** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:19 pm

ive never stoped watching power rangers sinice day 1...and im a 23 yr old married collage student lmao. my wife makes fun of me all the time for watchig it but im still a big kid at heart. ill admit some of the series arnt as good as others and non of them can top MMPR but its really not as bad as eveyone thinks,...that really ticks me off that there gonna stop makeing live action PR if its true. i just hope that if it does go animated its a good quality anime and i fear its american dubbing........

by **Swipestreaker** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:28 pm

I salute to one of the best and longest kids shows ever! Good bye live action! I watch it when I was a kid don't as often now but man what a heartbreaker. It might better this way though due to the rise animation in the past couple of years.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:33 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:What there are two different versions of the show?!
The original JPN (thanks Professor Smooth) and then there is US version?!

The same goes for Maskt Rider, maybe even Beatel bots?

Oh man this is confusing

Yep. A lot of shows from back in the mid-'90s were taken from Japanese series'.

Masked Rider, Beetle Borgs, and VR Troopers are all examples. The latter two I really liked as a kid (For some reason), but they died because the Metal Hero phase kind of died down, and they ran out of usable footage from those series'.

Yea those were awesome, my fave was maked Rider and the first PR, but with PR the movie they changed what I liked so I stopped watching it.

News Credits: 34 · by **Supreme Convoy** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:36 pm

Would an animated series be that bad? :CON:

by **Toyotus Superion** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:37 pm

doomboy536 wrote:PR was awesome

But hey I'll get over it

I got over it the minute i saw that picture of so many nerds dressed as Power Rangers

by **Deadpool.** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:07 pm

Bombus distinguendus wrote:ive never stoped watching power rangers sinice day 1...and im a 23 yr old married collage student lmao. my wife makes fun of me all the time for watchig it but im still a big kid at heart. ill admit some of the series arnt as good as others and non of them can top MMPR but its really not as bad as eveyone thinks,...that really ticks me off that there gonna stop makeing live action PR if its true. i just hope that if it does go animated its a good quality anime and i fear its american dubbing........

The Japnese ones will still remain live-action.

It's the american one that's going animated.

by **Kid_Kapatilsm** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:23 pm

This is sad

Masked Rider Dragon Knight is coming soon, and PR is gonna have some competition.

They have potential to save the series if they are willing to actually start making original rangers and more mature stroylines.

News Credits: 2 · by **Bombus distinguendus** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:04 am

Deadpool. wrote:
Bombus distinguendus wrote:ive never stoped watching power rangers sinice day 1...and im a 23 yr old married collage student lmao. my wife makes fun of me all the time for watchig it but im still a big kid at heart. ill admit some of the series arnt as good as others and non of them can top MMPR but its really not as bad as eveyone thinks,...that really ticks me off that there gonna stop makeing live action PR if its true. i just hope that if it does go animated its a good quality anime and i fear its american dubbing........

The Japnese ones will still remain live-action.

It's the american one that's going animated.

well thats lame...another case where america is being cheap.....i woulf rather just have the japanese ver imported and dubbed

News Credits: 1 · by **Dr Buffalo** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:38 am

Supreme Convoy wrote::BOT: Would an animated series be that bad?

Not for the animation industry.
Who knows, if this takes off, and I'm still interested in animation by then, I could be working on Power Rangers Pirate Force, or Cowboy Thunder, or something to that nature.

Like Optimus_Prime007 on Facebook · by **Optimus_Prime007** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:53 am

I didn't know people still watch that crap.

I thought that stuff died like 10 years ago?

News Credits: 553 · by **Professor Smooth** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:59 am

Bombus distinguendus wrote:
well thats lame...another case where america is being cheap.....i woulf rather just have the japanese ver imported and dubbed

Do you honestly think that writing, producing, casting, and animating a series costs less money than sticking a bunch of new scenes around existing live-action footage?

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:52 pm

Dr Buffalo wrote:
Supreme Convoy wrote::BOT: Would an animated series be that bad?

Not for the animation industry.
Who knows, if this takes off, and I'm still interested in animation by then, I could be working on Power Rangers Pirate Force, or Cowboy Thunder, or something to that nature.

Look, if someone were to pay me $1 every time I thought up parody Power Rangers series (And, to this day, it's been exactly 1), I'd have a large sum of money within the week.

Power Ranges: Britain Force ("I do say, this monster chum is quite frustrating to beat, don't you agree, old bean?")
Blatant Advertising Rangers (I'll beat this Tyco RC monster with my super Nike Running Shoes, then we'll head down to Wal*Mart, and get some delicious Pepsi Cola!)
Commie Rangers (Da, comrade, I shall beat this Capitalist monster with my Marx Ray!)
Depression Rangers (I want to beat this monster...but what's the point? My wife left me, my job is going nowhere, my life is worthless)

I'll think of more!

by **cybertronian_autobotgirl** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:15 pm

wow, that bites. :-(

after growing up watching PR...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :shock:

now i know how the G1 fans feel.

R.I.P. Power Rangers

News Credits: 553 · by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:43 am

I REALLY think that an animated series has potential. Just imagine the Zord/Monster battles when they're not limited to "Japanese guy in a rubber suit punches another Japanese guy in a metal suit." Disney's give us Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, and Gargoyles. This could be great.

News Credits: 2 · by **Bombus distinguendus** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:48 am

Professor Smooth wrote:I REALLY think that an animated series has potential. Just imagine the Zord/Monster battles when they're not limited to "Japanese guy in a rubber suit punches another Japanese guy in a metal suit." Disney's give us Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, and Gargoyles. This could be great.

"could be great" are the keywords.....we'll have to wait and see....i really hope its an anime...i cant see power rangers done with american animation unless it was good like gargoyles...nothing has come close to how well that show has been drawn since.