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News Credits: 1 · by **Solrac333** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:40 am

All of these look better than the Hasbro versions.

News Credits: 8 · by **NuclearConvoy** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:40 am

They look incredible, alas I already own most of them in one form or another (All Seekers (including BotCon, yay BotCon!), Ultra Magnus (awesome toy, even though it is just white, but the toy is awesome), BotCon "invisible" Mirage (which I was going to sell, but never got around to, so he's MIB) and Bugbite (BotCon, yay!)) and, as for Grimlock (who looks sexy in TakaraTomy deco) and Megatron (likewise), I'm dsaving my cash for the Animated toys.

News Credits: 1 · by **Solrac333** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:41 am

Can't wait to see Astrotrain.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:47 am

$30 not to bad. Only problem right now is i just put the rest of my money towards the Devil May Cry 4 Collectors Edition so im broke right now. Hopefully Megatron wont be as hard to find as his USA counterpart.

EDIT: any one have a link to the Megatron on action-hq.com?

EDIT#2: Found a pic of Megatrons gun mode on bigbadtoystore.com

by **Bonger** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:05 am

NuclearConvoy wrote:They look incredible, alas I already own most of them in one form or another (All Seekers (including BotCon, yay BotCon!), Ultra Magnus (awesome toy, even though it is just white, but the toy is awesome), BotCon "invisible" Mirage (which I was going to sell, but never got around to, so he's MIB) and Bugbite (BotCon, yay!)) and, as for Grimlock (who looks sexy in TakaraTomy deco) and Megatron (likewise), I'm dsaving my cash for the Animated toys.

Same here. I'm thinking Megs and SS are the only ones worth picking up again. Megs is a definate since the Classics coloring is an eyesore for me, and SS, because he will not match the Botcon set. Hasbro SS will now get repainted as SS so that my Classics will mirror my G1 seekers. Now I just need this year's Botcon exclusive to be a clear SS. ;-)

by **zemper** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:26 am

seeing as i'm only missing Cliffjumper (of all deluxes! d'oh! :-x

) and another bot for my Classics deluxe/voyager collection, there's absolutely no way in heck am i gonna pick any of these and waste my money...

..oookay. so that Megs looks a little spiffy. so him, and maybe a few others...

D'OH!

by **toxicity** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:45 am

I just noticed the purple decepticon logos on starscream's wings...

seeker fans will be pleased...

I like how clean mirage looks without all the sponsor designs and what not. and his chrome weapon ain't half bad either

by **Bonger** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:47 am

SS does look awesome. However, I prefer the decals on hasbro's Mirage. I think Witwicky's Sparkplugs is hella funny.

by **Hard Hacker** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:44 am

Megatron looks just silly with real gun colours. Prime looks like red and grey plastic with blue thighs. Bumblebee has a harsh grey to his softer yellow colour, so while reaslistic to the Dery model, it's more of a "eyesore" than Megatron was (Apperently some of you don't understand US gun laws, I'm sure they would have done a partially realistic mould for Megatron had it not been for that. Making Megatron with such stark colours was a nessacery sacrifice.) Starscream looks ridiculous with that off red and white to the fray is detined to be neon Infact, the only one I don't find lax is Mirage, but chrome on his feet is an unwise choice. No doubt it will chip off. In addition to that, the lack of sponsers makes him look bland.

The US versions are better in my eyes. How can Japan do show accurate decos for these bodies if they were never included in animated fiction? Awnser that.

News Credits: 3 · by **Autobot Jazz** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:48 am

Wow, these are awesome, why couldn't we get these designs when we got the classics?

by **Aerrow** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:25 am

Liege Evilmus wrote:Isn't "Far Superior" a bit of a stretch?

I agree. I don't really see them as being even close to superior then what we got from Hasbro. Funny thing is I always thought Bumblebee looked odd with the grey "stripe", now thanks to Takara I know I was wrong. Same goes for Prime with the addition of all the yellow. Thanks again Takara for proving me wrong.

The chrome on most of these seems out of place to me. As if they just put it on for the sake of putting it on. Had they gone more so with the chrome it may have made a difference but then it probably would have been too much chrome.

Mirage is probably the worst. I liked Mirage better with the sponsors, you know like a real racecar would have.

Grimlock's dino-mode has the most promise but I'm not liking his robot mode colors all that much.

I really don't see me wasting money on these, thankfully, unless they can do something more like fix Skywarp's "pinkness" or put out some repaints we haven't gotten from Hasbro.

UltraPrimal wrote:As for the BotCon question, I don't think we'll see a Japanese Classics Thundercracker, or the other Seeker exclusives. A lot of fans(and scalpers) would be really upset if they did that.

When has the feelings of fans/scalpers ever been an issue with what these companies produce?

-Aerrow

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:23 am

"YAY!", is just about all I got in response to those photos. I wants em all. Yup.
:BOT:

News Credits: 5 · by **--B--** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:29 am

They look nice, and if I had unlimited TF funds I'd jump all over them, but I don't, so I'll have to pass, as i have all of the U.S. versions.

News Credits: 9 · by **Zeds** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:35 am

Much better than the crap that we got on this side of the pond :sad:

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:40 am

I must be the only person who just isn't impressed by these color schemes. Megatron looks better, but not leaps and bounds. Bumblebee looks worse, actually. The chrome on Grimlock and Mirage looks terrible, absolutely terrible. Starscream looks nice, I like the thicker red they used.

They certainly aren't worth import prices though.

News Credits: 2 · by **Decepticon Spike** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:46 am

I might just get Bumblebee since I missed his U.S. release and I like this pain job more.

by **Aerrow** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:52 am

Crosscheck wrote:I must be the only person who just isn't impressed by these color schemes.

Nope, you are not the only one.

-Aerrow

by **zemper** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:08 am

Aerrow wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:I must be the only person who just isn't impressed by these color schemes.

Nope, you are not the only one.

-Aerrow

me three. although that Megs still looks mighty spiffy, mind you.

:MAX:

by **Bonger** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:09 am

zemper wrote:
Aerrow wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:I must be the only person who just isn't impressed by these color schemes.

Nope, you are not the only one.

-Aerrow

me three. although that Megs still looks mighty spiffy, mind you.

Same, Megs and SS for me only.

by **Mandamus** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:16 am

I like these but I just don't know if I like the Classics line enough to buy any of them, especially with Animated on the horizon.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:04 am

Hard Hacker wrote:Megatron looks just silly with real gun colours. Prime looks like red and grey plastic with blue thighs. Bumblebee has a harsh grey to his softer yellow colour, so while reaslistic to the Dery model, it's more of a "eyesore" than Megatron was (Apperently some of you don't understand US gun laws, I'm sure they would have done a partially realistic mould for Megatron had it not been for that. Making Megatron with such stark colours was a nessacery sacrifice.) Starscream looks ridiculous with that off red and white to the fray is detined to be neon Infact, the only one I don't find lax is Mirage, but chrome on his feet is an unwise choice. No doubt it will chip off. In addition to that, the lack of sponsers makes him look bland.

You are in a minority if you liked Hasbro's version of Megatron. Most people are aware of the reasons why Hasbro could not give Megatron realistic gun colors. But it was not a reason for them to choose neon nerf colors.

The US versions are better in my eyes. How can Japan do show accurate decos for these bodies if they were never included in animated fiction? Awnser that

Not sure what you are talking about.

by **soundwave13c** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:07 am

mirage looks sweet! so does grimlock and bimblebee

by **Hard Hacker** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:59 am

Stormrider wrote:You are in a minority if you liked Hasbro's version of Megatron. Most people are aware of the reasons why Hasbro could not give Megatron realistic gun colors. But it was not a reason for them to choose neon nerf colors.

Seeing as the gun is Nerfesque, the colours were logical.

The US versions are better in my eyes. How can Japan do show accurate decos for these bodies if they were never included in animated fiction? Awnser that.

Not sure what you are talking about.[/quote]

Some people might have shown disain for the lack of show realism, when in truth, these updated forms tie in more in the Marvel comics (Grimlocks' profile is a prime example of this).

by **Maldroth** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:51 am

the Takara colors are fine I guess if you don't have them already but I don't see myself picking them up again.

Only one I like is Megatron. I do hope Takara does decide to release the others, I'd be curious to see how they'd color Astrotrain.

I can't really see either coloring to be superior, just different. I happen to like the Hasbro colors in all honesty, even Megatron's. At least the bot shape resembles something we knew as Megatron rather than the lot of garbage we've gotten lately. Animated is a whole other story but I'm liking those as well.