The Energon Pub

[Delicon]

I was thinking about what would make a great Botcon set for this year. It's getting harder every year, with all the controversy over "exclusives." There has been a hint for this year's set, the line "For one young Autobot"

So, I was thinking 1986 movie characters. My idea would be plastic molds of Titanium Scourge, Rodimus Prime and Ultra Magnus along with a recolor of Universe Cyclonus and possibly a few more.

Now's your turn, if you were in charge, what would you come up with? Please note that you have to use some sort of existing mold.

[robofreak]

I'm predicting that we'll get a War Within theme. "One Young Autobot" sounds like we're getting a set based around Orion Pax. Universe Onslaught with a remolded head would be perfect for this.

[Tigertrack]

I like the idea of more War Within toys, but besides the existing Cybertron Starscream, WWI TIT Thundercracker molds, nothing is really worth repainting that exists.


I'd like to see a repainted G2/Actionmaster set:

Sideswipe in black with a red head and hands
Ramjet in purple and black
Thundercracker in Actionmaster colors using cl Starscream
Cybertron Starscream repainted to look like G2 Starscream
G2 Breakdown from Classics Sideswipe (new head)

G2 Dragstrip from Cl Mirage (new head!!!)
G2 Blades from Energon Bulkhead (new head)
G2 Silverbolt from universe Silverbolt
G2 Onslaught from universe Onslaught

I could go on...

[Diem]

Not that I go to Botcon...or want to pay $250 for 5 $20 toys, but if you're asking about my ideal retool five/six pack...

Backstreet -> Retooled Classics Mirage, I guess.
Dogfight -> Retooled Classics Jetfire.
Override -> Ridiculously retooled Animated Prowl

Crankcase -> Heavily retooled Animated Soundwave
Ruckus -> Retooled...Classics Sideswipe?
Windsweeper -> Retooled Classics Ramjet. Or Jetfire again.

[Tigertrack]

Crankcase -> Heavily retooled Animated Soundwave

I think the Walmart exclusive repaint of Cybetron Red Alert is already pretty spot on.

[Diem]

Crankcase -> Heavily retooled Animated Soundwave

I think the Walmart exclusive repaint of Cybetron Red Alert is already pretty spot on.

I wish I'd seen that. No Walmarts here.

[Diem]

I'm predicting that we'll get a War Within theme. "One Young Autobot" sounds like we're getting a set based around Orion Pax. Universe Onslaught with a remolded head would be perfect for this.

That Orion Pax thing makes me think...

Previous sets have included alt. versions of popular characters eg. Shattered Glass, the Axalon set, and perhaps War Dawn would be another good alt. version stockpile. They could have Orion (obviously Optimus), Stalk (Prowl), Beats (Jazz), Bronzehide (Ironhide) and Scouter (Trailbreaker). Just names off the top of my head. They could use virtually any mould as long as they nlooked like "young" versions of the main characters.

I have to disagree with Onslaught as Orion though. It's a great mould, my favourite of 2008. But it looks nothing like him.

[Delicon]

If you're talking strict War Within lore, Optimus wasn't even Orion Pax in that, wasn't his name Optitronix or something like that?

If they do War Within, there are quite a few of those that they could redo in plastic instead of metal.

Did Takara ever release Titaniums in Japan?

[Dr. Caelus]

I agree with Burn that Botcon repaints should be original characters rather than characters a large portion of the fan base is eagerly wishing to get their hands on.

So how about a scurvy pirate crew to go with Cybertron Cannonball?

Repaints of:

Armada Tidalwave
Energon Mirage
Energon Sharkticon
Cybertron Thunderblast (The Mary Read/Anne Bonny of the crew)
Cybertron Dirtboss (Eyepatch!)
Cybertron Slugslinger (Eyepatch!)
Armada Demolishor (Eyepatch!)
Animated Lockdown (Hook hand!)
Animated Oilslick (Fights with weapons made of wooden barrels!)
Movie Booster x10 (Captain's pet who copies everything he hears - including music off the internet!)
Some Minicons - the three boats from Armada or the submarine from Cybertron.

Not all of them, obviously, but some.

Of course, there would need to be someone chasing the pirates included in the set as well...

[Doubledealer93]

I agree with Burn that Botcon repaints should be original characters rather than characters a large portion of the fan base is eagerly wishing to get their hands on.

So how about a scurvy pirate crew to go with Cybertron Cannonball?

Repaints of:

Armada Tidalwave
Energon Mirage
Energon Sharkticon
Cybertron Thunderblast (The Mary Read/Anne Bonny of the crew)
Cybertron Dirtboss (Eyepatch!)
Cybertron Slugslinger (Eyepatch!)
Armada Demolishor (Eyepatch!)
Animated Lockdown (Hook hand!)
Animated Oilslick (Fights with weapons made of wooden barrels!)
Movie Booster x10 (Captain's pet who copies everything he hears - including music off the internet!)
Some Minicons - the three boats from Armada or the submarine from Cybertron.

Not all of them, obviously, but some.

Of course, there would need to be someone chasing the pirates included in the set as well...

that would be cool. i would get them

[Mr O]

I agree with Burn that Botcon repaints should be original characters rather than characters a large portion of the fan base is eagerly wishing to get their hands on.

So how about a scurvy pirate crew to go with Cybertron Cannonball?

Repaints of:

Armada Tidalwave
Energon Mirage
Energon Sharkticon
Cybertron Thunderblast (The Mary Read/Anne Bonny of the crew)
Cybertron Dirtboss (Eyepatch!)
Cybertron Slugslinger (Eyepatch!)
Armada Demolishor (Eyepatch!)
Animated Lockdown (Hook hand!)
Animated Oilslick (Fights with weapons made of wooden barrels!)
Movie Booster x10 (Captain's pet who copies everything he hears - including music off the internet!)
Some Minicons - the three boats from Armada or the submarine from Cybertron.

Not all of them, obviously, but some.

Of course, there would need to be someone chasing the pirates included in the set as well...

Now that's just an awesome idea.

[BigRobotAlligator]

I'd like to see a Decepticon clones set with the pain schemes of Ravage and Laserbeak(or Buzzsaw). If I could afford it right now I'd love to buy some and paint em up myself.

There was also some sort of blue bounty hunter I recall from one of the season 3 episodes (Sunbow cartoon) who I think would be neat to maybe repaint a Scattershot for.

And of course I'd love the Alligatorcon from "City of steel"

Alligator

[Windsweeper]

Actionmaster set

Energon Divebomb as Banzai-tron
Cybertron Ransack as Rad
Energon Sharkticon as Krok
Classics Megatron with remolded head as Treadshot
Energon Ravage as Catgut retooled for a gun mode
Armada Skywarp as Skyfall
Reissue Prowl with remolded head for Kick Off ans Axer

War Within set

Cybertron Ransack as Groove
Cybertron Clocker as Streetwise
Titanium seekers as Windsweeper and Acid Storm
Energon Sharkticon as Krok
Cybertrob Sideways with remolded face as Whisper

1986 movie

Cybertron Clocker as Hot Rod, replacing cyber key gun with a removable windcreen/roof/spoiler attachment that mounts on robot arm as shield akin to the shields used by the senator's guards in Megatron: Origin.
Cybertron Brakedown as Blurr with remolded head
Cybertron Brakedown as Arcee with remolded head (there had been plans to make an Arcee toy from the G1 Blurr mold)

G2 set

Cybertron Starscream as Jhiaxus
Energon Barricade as Mindset
Classics Jetfire as Hooligan
Robotmasters Mirage as Double Clutch
Classics Ramjet in G2 colours and unreleased G2 desert camo.

Any reuse of G2 laser rods or stormtroopers molds would be very welcome such as Drench as RID Daytonus or Sizzle as Armada Red Alert but with an old style police beacon.

[Bed Bugs]

G2 Set:

Autobots:

Rotorforce:
Leadfoot from Classics Mirage
Manta Ray from Cybertron Thunderblast

Aquaspeeders:
Go-Bots from Energon Downshift
Drench from Classics Sideswipe


Decepticons:

Rotorforce:
Ransack from Classics Powerglide
Powerdive from Energon Bulkhead


Aquaspeeders:
Deluge from Classics Mirage
Jetstorm from Cybertron Hardtop

Skyscorchers:
Eagle Eye from Armada Skywarp
Terradive from Cybertron Jetfire
Afterburner from Cybertron Thundercracker
Windrazor from Armada Starscream

[Dr. Caelus]

Not a dream set per se, and this violates what I was saying about not using established characters, but:

Classics Inferno -> RID Optimus Prime
Classics Sideswipe -> RID Prowl
Classics Ironhide -> RID X-Brawn
Classics Prowl -> RID Sideburn
Energon Demolishor -> RID Heavyload
Cybertron Landmine -> RID Wedge

Movie Optimus Prime -> RID Scourge
Classics Onslaught -> RID Mega Octane
Classics Astrotrain -> RID Movor
Animated Swindle -> RID Rollbar
Movie Brawl -> RID Armorhide
Cybertron Buzzsaw -> RID Ro-Tor
Energon Sharkticon -> RID Skybite
Classics Deluxe Megatron -> RID Bludgeon

[Delicon]

Some great suggestions so far and some creative redecos and remolds.

The whole "established character" thing is almost a moot point. New characters from existing molds simply just don't sell as well.

There's a good reason the 06, 07 and 08 Botcon sets blew out and fetch crazy premiums now while you can actually still buy an 05 set (that one was mostly new characters other than Ironhide and Outback/Fallback) direct from FunPub.

The best way to do it is use existing characters from old molds that Takara wouldn't have redone on their own (like the 06 and 08 sets)

[Son of Primus]

I would like to see a set that is dedicated to combiner teams ... like a set based on the Protectobots.

Hot Spot = Universe Inferno or RID Prime
Blades = Cybertron Evac
Streetwise = Universe Prowl
Groove = Cybertron Ransack
First Aid = Universe Ironhide or Cybertron Red Alert

Even if they can't combine, I think it be a nice homage to the team as a whole.

[UltraPrimal]

I would like a set of unreleased, popular fan customs, and some I'd just like to see.
Hot Spot/Defensor-remold of RiD Prime
Megatron(BW)-remold of RiD Megatron
Devcon-remold of E-Slugslinger
Elita 1-remold of C-Thunderblast
Bludgeon-repaint of C-Unicron
Punch/Counterpunch-remold of Classics Sunstreaker/Sideswipe
Apeface-remold of TM Primal
Snapdragon-remold of TM Megatron

I also wouldn't mind if FunPub got that Frenzy Rumble guy to do a set. I would love to be able to buy his Devastator or Menasor for a decent price.

[Dr. Caelus]

Hot Spot = Universe Inferno or RID Prime
Blades = Cybertron Evac
Streetwise = Universe Prowl
Groove = Cybertron Ransack
First Aid = Universe Ironhide or Cybertron Red Alert.

I'd go with Cybertron Lugnut (remolded) for Groove. More in keeping with the terrestrial alts of the rest of the molds in that line-up.

[Firebird]

I would like a set of unreleased, popular fan customs, and some I'd just like to see.
Hot Spot/Defensor-remold of RiD Prime
Megatron(BW)-remold of RiD Megatron
Devcon-remold of E-Slugslinger
Elita 1-remold of C-Thunderblast
Bludgeon-repaint of C-Unicron
Punch/Counterpunch-remold of Classics Sunstreaker/Sideswipe
Apeface-remold of TM Primal
Snapdragon-remold of TM Megatron

I like this set, they could call it "exclusives that never happened" or something like that, I'm not that good at catchy titles...

[Cyber-Kun]

I would love a IDW version of Hardhead made from Classics Onslaught with a remolded head.
I've never been to botcon, do they make exclusive toys that big?

[Mkall]

I would love a IDW version of Hardhead made from Classics Onslaught with a remolded head.
I've never been to botcon, do they make exclusive toys that big?

Up until now, they've only released up to Voyager-sized molds.

[Dr. Caelus]

I would love a IDW version of Hardhead made from Classics Onslaught with a remolded head.
I've never been to botcon, do they make exclusive toys that big?

Up until now, they've only released up to Voyager-sized molds.

The Botcon pre-Beast Wars Megatron was remolded from Cybertron Defense Red Alert, which was an Ultra Class figure.

The Botcon Shattered Glass Megatron was remolded from Energon Megatron, which was a Leader Class figure.

[Bed Bugs]

I would love a IDW version of Hardhead made from Classics Onslaught with a remolded head.
I've never been to botcon, do they make exclusive toys that big?

Up until now, they've only released up to Voyager-sized molds.

The Botcon pre-Beast Wars Megatron was remolded from Cybertron Defense Red Alert, which was an Ultra Class figure.

The Botcon Shattered Glass Megatron was remolded from Energon Megatron, which was a Leader Class figure.

Wrong, Shattered Glass Meg's used the exclusive voyager mold.

[Dr. Caelus]

The Botcon Shattered Glass Megatron was remolded from Energon Megatron, which was a Leader Class figure.

Wrong, Shattered Glass Meg's used the exclusive voyager mold.

Really?

I thought I remembered the "voyager" mold being tiny, as in roughly the same size as the Deluxe Energon Optimus Prime figure.

One less reason to be disappointed that I missed out on that set I suppose.