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Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime

Transformers News: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime

Tuesday, June 8th, 2021 4:33PM CDT

Categories: Toy News, Reviews
Posted by: -Kanrabat-   Views: 41,862

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Emgo316 has posted a video review of the highly anticipated Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime. Complete with his packaging, card, and ALL the accessories, including the smoke effects for the smokestacks, accessories that were missing from the Prime VS Prime review. He also shows more functions of the toys.

Another interesting fact is that Emgo was able to do this review because a friend from Australia sent it to him because they began appearing in his area. In which store Rodimus appeared in Australia? That was not said. But our fellow Australian Seibertronians should keep an eye out when Transformers hunting.

Without further ado, here's Emgo's video review of CC Rodimus Prime:



Are you more excited than before for this figure now that you have seen ALL of it's features? Let us know!

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Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106887)
Posted by o.supreme on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:36pm CDT
^Sightings of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, and T-Wrecks have been confirmed by various Australian Transformers fans. I don't always watch emgo, but if he does seemingly get something *early* he always has the packaging, and an explanation right in his video.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106888)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:37pm CDT
This whole debate yet again? :BANG_HEAD: Just call him out on it and have him disclose his source! I know some retro game YouTubers that deal with clone consoles have disclosed where they got their stock, either review sample sent ahead or bought with their own money, so why can't toy reviewers do the same? :???:
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106889)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:38pm CDT
I've emailed and messaged Prime "Tealeaf" Prime and he's never responded. As stated before, he's never produced packaging, nor given any official disclaimer that his toys were provided by Hasbro and that his videos are sponsored content (which is a huge rule at YouTube).

For the most part the man simply gets stolen goods and reviews them before others.

I find his behaviour deplorable, which is why I unsubscribed and blocked both his account and channel from my third party YouTube apps (you can also do it via scripts in Chrome, etc, I believe).

Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106890)
Posted by o.supreme on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:42pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Just call him out on it and have him disclose his source!


ALL of the early reviewers HAVE been called out on Youtube, some people have even gone beyond allegation and called them straight up thieves in the comments section (I'm not taking sides here, just providing information). They don't have to respond, and seemingly just ignore such things. Personally I am the kind of person who would work diligently to clear my name if I was accused of something that was untrue, some people just don't care though...
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106891)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:48pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:^Sightings of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, and T-Wrecks have been confirmed by various Australian Transformers fans. I don't always watch emgo, but if he does seemingly get something *early* he always has the packaging, and an explanation right in his video.


Yup. Emgo is squeaky clean. The only times he don't have the packaging are for most G1 figures (understandably so) and the brown boxes or baggies for the upgrade kits. Otherwise, the packaging is always present safe for some extremely rare exceptions. And if those happen, there's always a "why".

Regarding Rodimus himself, I'm even more exited than before. The only flaw of this set is the trypophobia inducting trailer interior.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106892)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:49pm CDT
And that's why I watch Emgo! The man is legit.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106894)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 8th, 2021 @ 4:56pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.


All for the sake of neutrality (i.e. not playing favorites) and "Innocent until proven guilty" I reckon. More importantly, posting such screenshots and not disclose the source is downright theft.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106896)
Posted by sol magnus on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:00pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.


All for the sake of neutrality (i.e. not playing favorites) and "Innocent until proven guilty" I reckon. More importantly, posting such screenshots and not disclose the source is downright theft.

I brought it up not to have Seibertron stop 'supporting' it, just that I think its sh---y. I watch the videos, so in some sense I too, 'support' it. But nothing he says (or TonTon, same deal) has anything to do with whether I purchase or not purchase any given figure. I'm just an information w---e, like most of us.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106897)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:08pm CDT
People care less about 'stolen' Factory samples then you think. But if it was really a problem, would Hasbro have stomped it out by now? The fact that they haven't, seems to me at least, to show they're happy with things as they are (realistic reason being it doesn't affect their bottom line one iota), after all publicity is publicity, and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106898)
Posted by sol magnus on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:12pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:People care less about 'stolen' Factory samples then you think. But if it was really a problem, would Hasbro have stomped it out by now? The fact that they haven't, seems to me at least, to show they're happy with things as they are (realistic reason being it doesn't affect their bottom line one iota), after all publicity is publicity, and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?

Hasbro's 'look the other way' policy is fine by me. And yes, the reviews are generally favorable (although Tracks may have veered uncomfortably a bit), so it's good word of mouth for them.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106899)
Posted by o.supreme on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:17pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?


anyone who saw last years ER Ratchet review by tonton when he called the toy "stupid" because the character was "stupid" that was some comedic gold right there...

both badly reviewed AND reviewed badly in this case.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106900)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:24pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?


anyone who saw last years ER Ratchet review by tonton when he called the toy "stupid" because the character was "stupid" that was some comedic gold right there...

both badly reviewed AND reviewed badly in this case.


That review cracked me up lol he was so mad at the lack of paint and whatever else

I think he said siege ratchet was good
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106902)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:28pm CDT
It is a shame if there is in fact theft involved. I for one would rather watch any other known YouTube reviewer rather than Emgo. I have personally seen enough reviews to prefer NOT to watch his for reasons of my own.

IMHO there is at least 1 fair reviewer (on the subject) currently over Emgo who get the job done I think with many more to come!


I'm not one that needs to see the freakin' box the figure came in, in fact to hell with it! :VEHI:
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106903)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2021 @ 5:38pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:It is a shame if there is in fact theft involved. I for one would rather watch any other known YouTube reviewer rather than Emgo. I have personally seen enough reviews to prefer NOT to watch his for reasons of my own.

IMHO there is at least 1 fair reviewer (on the subject) currently over Emgo who get the job done I think with many more to come!


I'm not one that needs to see the freakin' box the figure came in, in fact to hell with it! :VEHI:

Who is this reviewer whom you speak of?
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106910)
Posted by JomasterII on June 8th, 2021 @ 7:04pm CDT
Man, you guys are kinda late on this. Kingdom Rodimus has been sighted over here at Big W shops for like, a few weeks or so now. :P
https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/05/22/tra ... lia-433957
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106914)
Posted by cloudballoon on June 8th, 2021 @ 8:06pm CDT
Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106915)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 8th, 2021 @ 8:19pm CDT
cloudballoon wrote:Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.


I appreciate all of his little phrases and lingo
It is pretty repetitive but I enjoy the positivity and enthusiasm in the reviews. The effort is definitely there as you said, emgo is easily my favorite reviewer

I enjoy when he makes a comparison with "MAGNUS" as well as "GEEWUN ___ preciousssss"
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106917)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2021 @ 8:53pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.


I appreciate all of his little phrases and lingo
It is pretty repetitive but I enjoy the positivity and enthusiasm in the reviews. The effort is definitely there as you said, emgo is easily my favorite reviewer

I enjoy when he makes a comparison with "MAGNUS" as well as "GEEWUN ___ preciousssss"


I also think some people take "PARTSFORMING?! WORST TOY EV.... Shhhhhhh." personally. :lol:
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106921)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:05pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.


I appreciate all of his little phrases and lingo
It is pretty repetitive but I enjoy the positivity and enthusiasm in the reviews. The effort is definitely there as you said, emgo is easily my favorite reviewer

I enjoy when he makes a comparison with "MAGNUS" as well as "GEEWUN ___ preciousssss"


I also think some people take "PARTSFORMING?! WORST TOY EV.... Shhhhhhh." personally. :lol:


I wouldnt doubt it hahaha that's another thing I like, he shuts down a lot of the whining and most of his criticisms are more relevant "in my personal opinion"
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106924)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:17pm CDT
There's a plethora of great reviewers out there, and all of them aren't using stolen toys to bolster their ratings. Sure, some might review KO or 3P toys (which might go against the morals of some TF collectors) but at least they usually cite their sources and/or put some genuine effort into their reviews. I have managed to enjoy reviews from China, Japan, the UK, Vietnam, Australia and US, including:

- Benscollectibles/BensKOllectibles
- Mangmotion
- peaugh
- The Lazy Eyebrow
- Toy Polloi
- wotafa
- Bootleg Toys Vietnam (who, ironically, DOESN'T review stolen toys from a nearby factory)
- Bots and Bits
- JobbytheHong (NSFW)
- Kuma Style
- SirToysDotCom
- TheHenshinGuy
- THECOLLECTOR75
- Toyhax.com

I'm sure there are others (I used to watch Optibotimus, and some others).
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106925)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:22pm CDT
At the risk of outing myself as a weirdo, I've never watched a transformers toy review. Like ever. Certainly not for anything I didn't receive yet. The only times I can think of watching any type of review was to modify or fix a known issue like the TR Trypticon hip fix.

I just kind of like experiencing each new mold/figure all on my own first, especially the transformation.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106926)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:25pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:At the risk of outing myself as a weirdo, I've never watched a transformers toy review. Like ever. Certainly not for anything I didn't receive yet. The only times I can think of watching any type of review was to modify or fix a known issue like the TR Trypticon hip fix.

I just kind of like experiencing each new mold/figure all on my own first, especially the transformation.


For me, I've also watched them AFTER I've bought a toy, do see reinforce my own biased opinions about them or, like you, to look for "fixes" to problems.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106928)
Posted by primus-omega on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:44pm CDT
No sure what to think. I don't remember the last time, "leak" information was supposed to be legal. And, and, and, we all like to read and watch "leak" materials, but complains about it. smh. Maybe we should put a disclaimer on the news, saying something like, stop here if don't want spoilers or "leak" info.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106929)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:50pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:At the risk of outing myself as a weirdo, I've never watched a transformers toy review. Like ever. Certainly not for anything I didn't receive yet. The only times I can think of watching any type of review was to modify or fix a known issue like the TR Trypticon hip fix.

I just kind of like experiencing each new mold/figure all on my own first, especially the transformation.


For me, I've also watched them AFTER I've bought a toy, do see reinforce my own biased opinions about them or, like you, to look for "fixes" to problems.


I often watch reviews purely for the entertainment. Even for things I'll never buy.
My favorite entertainer reviewers being Thew, Emgo, and Jobby the Hong. Especially Jobby. That guy is NUT! :lol: :APPLAUSE: :BOWDOWN:
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106930)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:54pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:At the risk of outing myself as a weirdo, I've never watched a transformers toy review. Like ever. Certainly not for anything I didn't receive yet. The only times I can think of watching any type of review was to modify or fix a known issue like the TR Trypticon hip fix.

I just kind of like experiencing each new mold/figure all on my own first, especially the transformation.


For me, I've also watched them AFTER I've bought a toy, do see reinforce my own biased opinions about them or, like you, to look for "fixes" to problems.


I often watch reviews purely for the entertainment. Even for things I'll never buy.
My favorite entertainer reviewers being Thew, Emgo, and Jobby the Hong. Especially Jobby. That guy is NUT! :lol: :APPLAUSE: :BOWDOWN:


I forgot Thew, and I'm already subscribed to him!
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106931)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:57pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:And that's why I watch Emgo! The man is legit.


My only issue is the inflections he does with his voice, just like most youtubers do, just give a f'ing review without your own silly sound effects and such, If I want to be entertained Ill watch a movie.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106932)
Posted by Rtron on June 8th, 2021 @ 9:59pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:At the risk of outing myself as a weirdo, I've never watched a transformers toy review. Like ever. Certainly not for anything I didn't receive yet. The only times I can think of watching any type of review was to modify or fix a known issue like the TR Trypticon hip fix.

I just kind of like experiencing each new mold/figure all on my own first, especially the transformation.


For me, I've also watched them AFTER I've bought a toy, do see reinforce my own biased opinions about them or, like you, to look for "fixes" to problems.


I often watch reviews purely for the entertainment. Even for things I'll never buy.
My favorite entertainer reviewers being Thew, Emgo, and Jobby the Hong. Especially Jobby. That guy is NUT! :lol: :APPLAUSE: :BOWDOWN:


I forgot Thew, and I'm already subscribed to him!


I literally only watch Thew for the entertainment. I don't consider what he does actual reviews. If I want to see a product showcase, I'll watch someone else. Thew I just find fun to watch. He could "review" a fork and I'd still watch it.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106933)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 8th, 2021 @ 10:05pm CDT
Not all reviewers are necessarily our "cups of tea", but all the ones we've mentioned aren't receiving stolen goods, which makes them at least worthy of my time, even if I don't watch their full video or subscribe to them. PVP and his ilk, on the other hand, aren't.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106934)
Posted by butcher31 on June 8th, 2021 @ 10:06pm CDT
Possible first sighting? Nah. Rodimus Prime came out in Big W stores here in Australia about two and a half weeks ago. Pretty readily available too. It'll be on sale there as of next week. A number of waves get skipped here, so it's nice to get a win with an early release every so often.

I've had my Kingdom Rodimus sitting on my desk for the last week. I can confirm, it's a lot of fun. And worth the commander class price point. There are a lot of parts involved.

I like how Emgo has obviously played with the figures a lot before doing the review. He really looks closely at the ins and outs of transformation and a lot of the play patterns involved.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106936)
Posted by Emerje on June 9th, 2021 @ 1:12am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Id expect his crotch To be fully blue like the original TWrecks. That definitely stops the colour layout from being 100% what the original had.

I've mentioned this before, they should have taken the pointless white paint from his chest, below his neck, and used the cost of that asset to properly paint in his belt blue. Would have gone a long way in improving the figure.

I'm hoping for a third party head and some ToyHax labels to fix the belt.

Emerje
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106937)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 9th, 2021 @ 1:25am CDT
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Id expect his crotch To be fully blue like the original TWrecks. That definitely stops the colour layout from being 100% what the original had.

I've mentioned this before, they should have taken the pointless white paint from his chest, below his neck, and used the cost of that asset to properly paint in his belt blue. Would have gone a long way in improving the figure.

I'm hoping for a third party head and some ToyHax labels to fix the belt.

Emerje


I hope more "mainstream/accessible" 3P companies start doing add-on kits for regular figures. Currently, there only seems to be kits for titan class figures and then either 3D printed stuff, Toyark or Nonnef (all of which are either unavailable, or cost too much).
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106942)
Posted by Big Grim on June 9th, 2021 @ 4:09am CDT
I love Emgo. He enthusiastic, positive and entertaining. All of his reviews are fun and I like his Big Build series with the parts works Enterprise D.

He's great fun!

~ Grim
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106943)
Posted by Davidreilly on June 9th, 2021 @ 5:40am CDT
It’s CRAZY watching people lose their mind about something that for those of us in Australia is no big deal, as the toy has been available for purchase since last week.

And to see accusations of theft being tossed around with no proof. Bizarre.

For the conspiracy theorists who still believe someone is smuggling toys out of a factory (going to be pretty hard to slip Rodimus under your shirt), the toy is available for purchase at Big W as part of their toy sale. It secured an exclusive release of an early batch to coincide with their annual toy sale. You can see it displayed in the toy catalogue at www.bigw.com.au if you still think its stolen. It’s available at the non-sale price of 149 AUD, but next week when the sale starts will be available for only 109. Now that’s actually super cheap and under the suggestered retail price….. but there’s a catch, in that its limited to about 6-12 per store.

I’ll be waiting until next week, but we’re already having people buy the full six or twelve units at the higher price, because they’re selling it to people in the US or planning to eBay it. Sad, but there are scalpers everywhere.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106950)
Posted by Seibertron on June 9th, 2021 @ 8:49am CDT
I have a good relationship with Hasbro. I receive their marketing packages as do other major Transformers reviewers, fan site owners and other comparable media outlets. I'm around 99% certain that these early samples are not from Hasbro. You know when you get something from Hasbro because it comes in a super nice one-of-a-kind press kit package, generally along with other items as well (unless it's SDCC Fortress Maximus or something like that).

The factory leaks issue has been ongoing since the early days of eBay. I used to buy early samples directly on eBay back in the day to photograph on Seibertron. While the practice may be in the gray area, we also don't know for sure what the story is behind them. I've always had the mindset that it's up to Hasbro to fix leaks at the factory. We also have no idea what business agreements they have with their factories either or what the agreements are pertaining to factory samples, factory defects, factory extras, etc. I've never seen a binding contract between Hasbro and their factories, and I doubt any of those debating this issue have either.

If Hasbro wants to shut that down, they could get their lawyers involved with it, make a public statement about it, clarify what these samples are, and clamp down on early samples becoming available. That's their fight. Because we can argue and debate about it until the sun explodes and we'll have accomplished nothing other than arguing about something we really don't know much about.

I don't want to see this discussed in this topic, but I am curious how many of you attacking the reviewers for getting early samples also purchase 3rd party products or KO products to have in your collection, which is another area that I think is a little clearer what the rights and wrongs are.

Long story short, we should keep this conversation and news about the actual products instead of debating this issue about factory leaks and YouTube reviewers. If you want to have that debate, please debate it in a separate topic and keep topics about the toys on-topic. Thanks.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106951)
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 9th, 2021 @ 8:54am CDT
Seibertron wrote:I have a good relationship with Hasbro. I receive their marketing packages as do other major Transformers reviewers, fan site owners and other comparable media outlets. I'm around 99% certain that these early samples are not from Hasbro. You know when you get something from Hasbro because it comes in a super nice one-of-a-kind press kit package, generally along with other items as well (unless it's SDCC Fortress Maximus or something like that).

The factory leaks issue has been ongoing since the early days of eBay. I used to buy early samples directly on eBay back in the day to photograph on Seibertron. While the practice may be in the gray area, we also don't know for sure what the story is behind them. I've always had the mindset that it's up to Hasbro to fix leaks at the factory. We also have no idea what business agreements they have with their factories either or what the agreements are pertaining to factory samples, factory defects, factory extras, etc. I've never seen a binding contract between Hasbro and their factories, and I doubt any of those debating this issue have either.

If Hasbro wants to shut that down, they could get their lawyers involved with it, make a public statement about it, clarify what these samples are, and clamp down on early samples becoming available. That's their fight. Because we can argue and debate about it until the sun explodes and we'll have accomplished nothing other than arguing about something we really don't know much about.

I'm curious how many of you attacking the reviewers for getting early samples also purchase 3rd party products or KO products to have in your collection.

Long story short, we should keep this conversation and news about the actual products instead of debating this issue about factory leaks and YouTube reviewers. If you want to have that debate, please debate it in a separate topic and keep topics about the toys on-topic. Thanks.


Thank you. Where is the topic/thread to discuss this?
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106952)
Posted by Seibertron on June 9th, 2021 @ 8:58am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Where is the topic/thread to discuss this?


Someone should start one if they want to have that debate/discussion.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106959)
Posted by o.supreme on June 9th, 2021 @ 10:17am CDT
I was watching Death's Review of Core Class Optimus. Not a first to be sure, but it is the first I've seen to compare one of the newer Core class with any of the Previous Legends Class figures...which begs the question...Why the name change? I mean I know this particular size of Transformer disappeared for two years during Siege and ER to focus on Micromasters. But now that it is back (under a new name), it just doesn't seem to make sense. Sure the toys have slightly better engineering and articulation than previous Legends class. But the same could be said for all other toy class sizes, and their names haven't changed. Was it maybe to avoid conflict with another Hasbro line (Marvel Legends?).

I was just curious what anyone else thinks? Sure in hindsight does it really matter? No...but since June, by all appearances, is going to be a slow news month, we have to drum up some sort of conversation, otherwise it devolves into other things that go off topic, which I am guilty of myself, and I apologize. Just trying to keep the ball rolling is all.

I know a LOT of people have praised the Core Class. I mean they are great as a more economic way to obtain smaller versions of famous characters, but they just don't fit anywhere in my collection. If I were collecting all BW characters, then sure Rattrap would be a must, but poor Vertebreak and Dracodon don't have much going for them other than if someone is just awed by something new. They aren't fossilizers, they aren't previously established characters. It's just the "oh cool a Dinosaur!" factor, I guess Hasbro hopes to sell, in two different colors ;) .

I've actually found myself lately going back and picking up some of the previous CW. TR, and PotP Legends class that I skipped because I now have a use for them. Fortunately because of their small size none of them are too expensive. The TT Transformers Adventure ones though Yeesh.... I am glad I got those a few years ago...
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106962)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on June 9th, 2021 @ 10:59am CDT
My best guess on renaming the Legends class to Core class was likely something as simple as wanting a new name for the class when the revived it that avoided any of the Legends/Legion confusion from the past.

I could see something as simple as the marketing team saying we want to revive the Legend class, but not specifically for smaller bots who only fit at that scale. Rather we will include all the core characters in a smaller more affordable scale for kids/parents and fill in the rest with smaller bots who fit the scale. Well, if it is mostly core characters, why not call it Core class?

As for Vertebreak, she actually is a pretty fun little bot to play around with. Plus she has a unique transformation for a dino alt mode in that the dino head becomes the cod-piece.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106964)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 9th, 2021 @ 11:41am CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:It is a shame if there is in fact theft involved. I for one would rather watch any other known YouTube reviewer rather than Emgo. I have personally seen enough reviews to prefer NOT to watch his for reasons of my own.

IMHO there is at least 1 fair reviewer (on the subject) currently over Emgo who get the job done I think with many more to come!


I'm not one that needs to see the freakin' box the figure came in, in fact to hell with it! :VEHI:
Yeah I watched a few of his reviews and got annoyed very quickly. The guy takes way too long and he's a condescending douchebag most of the time. Unless he's changed? I haven't watched his reviews in a long time.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106969)
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 9th, 2021 @ 12:32pm CDT
Core class soundwaves better than the siege/netflix figure but I have no need for a small soundwave so I'll be skipping it.

Probably gonna watch the review on the overpriced rodimus to see what kind of things can be placed inside it if nothing else but i'm doubting it can used a bike carrier unless the bikes are legends sized.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106970)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 9th, 2021 @ 12:39pm CDT
I think Emgo does solid reviews. No, I don't need the intro's or outro's, but overall I like the way her reviews.
Now, I'm not Youtube reviewer expert... But reviewing dozens and dozens of TF, I would never expect any of them to come up with fresh lingo/verbiage as they transform figures...
In fact doing as many as they do, I would say the same things a lot as well. Because it just makes sense.

Emgo is positive, and I appreciate that. Sure, he could be more critical, but I'm also confident that he genuinely likes (if not loves) these toys and what he's doing. So assuming this is the case, he's going to lean towards the positive naturally.
I have enough of a brain to figure out what I like and don't like based on what I see; he's not intentionally or unintentionally swaying me.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106973)
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 9th, 2021 @ 12:52pm CDT
Criticisms just as important for a review. Emgo criticised Unique toys sworder/mp sandstroms torso and I totally agree on it but it still convinced me to buy and enjoy that figure.

so rodimus trailer does what primes trailer should have done andfd fits deluxes..yet the only thing the video does is convince me I want the SS Hotrod at some point despite the car mode paint (maybe if they do a premium paint version down the line ot replace the yellow roof)
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106978)
Posted by WaspinatorEngage on June 9th, 2021 @ 1:52pm CDT
Patriot Prime Reviews is good too. Jobby is the man though, hilarious, but he doesn't post much content.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106980)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 9th, 2021 @ 2:04pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Oh I wasn't saying that was the case for everything, in fact my example was primarily about the Takara Selects stuff that he was attacked over despite in demand toys Shipping those exact same figures.

I still prefer the conspiracy theory though the 'Factory thief' is actually working on behalf of Hasbro to build up hype for certain figures (see how there was no leaks of Rhinox for instance but wreck-gar did leak). Why would Hasbro do this (aside from the hype train?) To get around YouTube T&C of course! They always have plausible deniability. After all it wasn't them who gave the youtuber the figure...it was the thief.

Yes, I'm cynical enough to believe that a corporation would do this in order to manipulate a fandom to make more money. After all I'm betting there's more that don't care these are stolen figures then those that do. By a large margin.


Seeing as how Hasbro and Mattel were the two big companies that reported YouTube to the FCC and caused COPA to happen last year, I'm certain they'd love to see online reviewers and that whole community go away let alone help them.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106981)
Posted by Overcracker on June 9th, 2021 @ 2:04pm CDT
I'm a big fan of Emgo's. I love his reviews. He does criticize some figures sure, what he doesn't do is overreact to issues or problems with the figures.

He'll tell you if something is wrong, but like with the parts forming dig he'll make fun of you for overreacting to things that aren't all that important in the grand scheme of things.

I also look forward to his skits at the end. That' the best part. I keep trying to predict what he'll do there with each figure. And love his Shockwave voice. It just cracks me up every time.

I watch his reviews to have fun and get a sense of the figure.

By that same token I enjoy DeathReviews for his sarcasm and dry whit.

If you want a condescending douchebag, watch Optibotimus. Stopped watching him a long time ago because he just annoyed the heck out of me.


In regards to Hot Rod's yellow hinge on the roof, minor issue at best. Doesn't really bother me, and in robot mode, its basically gone.

Hard to imagine a Premium Finish version painting the hinge. It's a hinge, its gonna rub off the paint eventually. Maybe casting it in the same color as the rest of the roof would be a better option. Of course then all the other parts that are yellow and share the same sprue, will end up having to be painted. Which is basically just the Spoiler. Every other yellow part I can see doesn't really need to be yellow.

The underside of the hood, the knee hinges, his torso frame.. all those can be left red.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106982)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 9th, 2021 @ 2:04pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:There's a plethora of great reviewers out there, and all of them aren't using stolen toys to bolster their ratings. Sure, some might review KO or 3P toys (which might go against the morals of some TF collectors) but at least they usually cite their sources and/or put some genuine effort into their reviews. I have managed to enjoy reviews from China, Japan, the UK, Vietnam, Australia and US, including:

- Benscollectibles/BensKOllectibles
- Mangmotion
- peaugh
- The Lazy Eyebrow
- Toy Polloi
- wotafa
- Bootleg Toys Vietnam (who, ironically, DOESN'T review stolen toys from a nearby factory)
- Bots and Bits
- JobbytheHong (NSFW)
- Kuma Style
- SirToysDotCom
- TheHenshinGuy
- THECOLLECTOR75
- Toyhax.com

I'm sure there are others (I used to watch Optibotimus, and some others).


I think you forgot someone at the top of the list there buddy, pal.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106984)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 9th, 2021 @ 2:14pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Long story short, we should keep this conversation and news about the actual products instead of debating this issue about factory leaks and YouTube reviewers. If you want to have that debate, please debate it in a separate topic and keep topics about the toys on-topic. Thanks.


Yes.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106986)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on June 9th, 2021 @ 3:20pm CDT
Sorry, I didn't mean to spark this whole debate. But yes, leaked samples have been around since ebay. I believe the amount of leaks increases and decrease with time (and we're currently at an increase). Even if Hasbro patches up the current avenue, a new one will be formed and they'll continue to trickle out. It's a part of the collecting ecosystem.

With that out of the way...
Do we know when the next announcement from Hasbro will be? I know that next Tuesday will be a TF Tuesday (if the pattern continues) and we'll probably get the Target Exclusives + Jolt and Grindor there, but do we know if there are any major announcements planned currently? Or will we just have to wait for IGN to spring it on us like Wave 2?
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106988)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 9th, 2021 @ 3:43pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Do we know when the next announcement from Hasbro will be? I know that next Tuesday will be a TF Tuesday (if the pattern continues) and we'll probably get the Target Exclusives + Jolt and Grindor there, but do we know if there are any major announcements planned currently? Or will we just have to wait for IGN to spring it on us like Wave 2?
No clue. I wouldn't expect that many reveals from a TF Tuesday, historically they've only ever had 1-2 figures and always exclusives/Selects (maybe they'll show Toy Colors Galvatron?). They could do a Fan First Friday at any point, as even though Hasbro's promoting this month as being big on GI Joe, they're still doing a Power Rangers FFF this Friday, so that could be where the rest of that SS wave shows up along with probably SG Goldbug. Other than that, I would assume maybe something in the SDCC online stuff later, in terms of Wave 4 and the alleged Wave 5? Or the next wave could be revealed out of nowhere by IGN, like you said, but I feel like that wouldn't get as much attention as Hasbro would want if they did that anytime soon, since E3's on the horizon and I assume that would be IGN's main focus.
Re: Another video review of Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2106989)
Posted by Munkky on June 9th, 2021 @ 3:48pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:With that out of the way...
Do we know when the next announcement from Hasbro will be? I know that next Tuesday will be a TF Tuesday (if the pattern continues) and we'll probably get the Target Exclusives + Jolt and Grindor there, but do we know if there are any major announcements planned currently? Or will we just have to wait for IGN to spring it on us like Wave 2?

It hasn't really been said, but my money would be on late July or early August for a big reveal. They might continue the formula from last time and dedicate an entire stream to just wave 4 of Kingdom and maybe another Shattered Glass toy tacked on at the end. That "Worlds Collide" box set and some other things we know about from leaks like Terrorsaur will probably get announced separately in Trasformers Tuesdays, like the Battle Across Time sets were.

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