BotCon 2014 Coverage: IDW Comic Panel

SW's SilverHammer wrote:So is this were we find out when, where, and how he dies?

We can only hope

Amelie wrote:

I'm excited by Chromia, too, but I'm really hoping Arcee gets a Moonracer remold

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Amelie wrote:

I'm excited by Chromia, too, but I'm really hoping Arcee gets a Moonracer remold

I think I'd prefer Override. They've done two Armada figures for Generations, how about something for Cybertron?

Amelie wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:How did Mattel get up there? Besides Barbie what do they have?

Monster High. I've read its been the best selling toy Mattel have released since HotWheels, too. You can't move in my local ToysRUs for bumping into them and last Christmas my local supermarket managed to sell a 5-foot high PALETTE of them in less than a day. I've not seen a toy sell that fast in I don't know how long.

steve2275 wrote:cool
more windblade

Mindmaster wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Amelie wrote:

I'm excited by Chromia, too, but I'm really hoping Arcee gets a Moonracer remold

I think I'd prefer Override. They've done two Armada figures for Generations, how about something for Cybertron?

Y'know what? I'd be down for that.

Then again, I'd be down for a buttload of Unicron Trilogy homages (still waiting for an Armada Cyclonus from Hunt for the Decepticons Tomahawk)...

steve2275 wrote:cool
more windblade

Amelie wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Amelie wrote:Been bugging me for ages now... but..

Nacelle could be a [very] obscure reference to a G1 Thrust bootleg that used to circle around dollar stores and ebay years and years ago. Exact same colours.

Only you would know something like that, right? Now you have me wanting to look into it.

Pre-release G1 Thrust from early Hasbro stock photos.

Saw the pics on SpaceBridge ages back.

... there is also a knock off of similar stupidity, though.

http://web.archive.org/web/201406221846 ... tery1a.jpg

Thank you Waybackmachine

Midnight_Fox wrote:The deco is based on this proto-Thrust:





Source: http://www.tf-1.com/articles/eurous/ear ... plate.html

Mindmaster wrote:Just came to a conclusion about that Generations Voyager Optimus Prime. If it's redecoed into another character (Nemesis Prime, Ultra Magnus, Motormaster, etc.), I'm down for it. As it is... no thank you. As I said before, I'm perfectly happy with my Classics Voyager.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Just came to a conclusion about that Generations Voyager Optimus Prime. If it's redecoed into another character (Nemesis Prime, Ultra Magnus, Motormaster, etc.), I'm down for it. As it is... no thank you. As I said before, I'm perfectly happy with my Classics Voyager.

G1COLLECTOR wrote:To tell you the truth , The Transformers Movie Toys *(ALL JUST SUCK)!

I mean they keep making them smaller and they all look bad in both modes. I will be buying much more 3rd party and Masterpiece bots this year.

Midnight_Fox wrote:I actually not only mentioned it earlier, I even linked to that exact same article.

Totally missed that Awesome.

Mindmaster wrote:Just throwing this in here to help stimulate discussion.

Rated X wrote: At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets.

Rated X wrote:You know what the biggest problem with TFCC Tarantulas is ?

It's doesn't transform into a spider or into something even remotely Cybertronian. It turns into a American dirt bike. That worked for Wreck Gar, not for Tarantulas. At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets. Even DOTM Quickstrike (Darksteel) used a concept corvette that was futuristic looking and only made it to prototype stage for the movie. But a dirt bike ? Cmon now...

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Rated X wrote: At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets.

TFCC Depthcharge turns into an Earth vehicle, a Sukhoi Su-47.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Rated X wrote:You know what the biggest problem with TFCC Tarantulas is ?

It's doesn't transform into a spider or into something even remotely Cybertronian. It turns into a American dirt bike. That worked for Wreck Gar, not for Tarantulas. At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets. Even DOTM Quickstrike (Darksteel) used a concept corvette that was futuristic looking and only made it to prototype stage for the movie. But a dirt bike ? Cmon now...

According to TFW, Pete said in the panel this is Supposed to be Dawn of the Futures Past Tarantulas

G1COLLECTOR wrote:To tell you the truth , The Transformers Movie Toys *(ALL JUST SUCK)!

I mean they keep making them smaller and they all look bad in both modes. I will be buying much more 3rd party and Masterpiece bots this year.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Rated X wrote:You know what the biggest problem with TFCC Tarantulas is ?

It's doesn't transform into a spider or into something even remotely Cybertronian. It turns into a American dirt bike. That worked for Wreck Gar, not for Tarantulas. At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets. Even DOTM Quickstrike (Darksteel) used a concept corvette that was futuristic looking and only made it to prototype stage for the movie. But a dirt bike ? Cmon now...

According to TFW, Pete said in the panel this is Supposed to be Dawn of the Futures Past Tarantulas

It Is Him wrote:

G1COLLECTOR wrote:To tell you the truth , The Transformers Movie Toys *(ALL JUST SUCK)!

I mean they keep making them smaller and they all look bad in both modes. I will be buying much more 3rd party and Masterpiece bots this year.

I agree. The 86 movie toys were terrible.

see what I did there

It Is Him wrote:Dear Hasbro,
If we sacrifice Shane McCarthy, will you bring back Aaron Archer?
Thanks,
It Is Him

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Dear Hasbro,
If we sacrifice Shane McCarthy, will you bring back Aaron Archer?
Thanks,
It Is Him

Like we get him not to write anymore sacrifice, or like wicker man sacrifice?

El Duque wrote:Wow, all in all I'm very disappointed by almost everything they revealed.

I don't collect Legends unless scale dictates the characters should be a Legends Class, so I have no interest in that Nemesis Prime, not to mention I'm kinda done with Nemesis Prime in general.

Legends Cliffjumer - Already have a Deluxe with third-party upgrades

Legends Thundercracker - again the scale issue, plus I just got iGear's new Raptor version, which is stupidly amazing.

Legends Windcharger - This one blows my mind. I already have a really good Scout Class Windcharger so that alone means I don't need this guy, but why the Hell not announce a Tailgate redeco of the previously released Scout Windcharger. We're actually going backwards here.

Legends Powerglide - This guy looks good, but I already have the Deluxe sized on from Xtransbots and it's pretty damn good. iGear also has plans to release a Powerglide in the Mini Warrrior line. Still, I might get this guy.

Legends Bombshell - Looks pretty good, but it's not going to replace my FansProject version.

Deluxe Arcee - Looks good, but really late to the party. I currently have iGear's Delicate Warrior, and really like her. Not to mention Perfect Effect has a really good Arcee, and MMC is apparently going to release a whole series of Fembots that look really nice. I may get her just because this will be Hasbro's first attempt at real G1-ish Arcee.

Deluce Chomia - Looks interesting, even though she appears to be an extensive remold of the PRID Arcee mold. Will probably get her.

Voyager Brainstorm - Look really good, but again late to the party. I already have two version of this character, FansProject and Toyworld. I'll probably get him, but if he does't surpass the ToyWorld version once I have him in-hand he'll get sold. Though I do hold out hope, after all, the Hasbro Springer replaced my FansProject Defender.

Voyager Optimus Prime - No, Hell no. Looks terrible, looks worse that the Classics Voyager that came out years ago. Neither of which hold a candle to ToyWorld Orion.

Leader Megatron - Pass. Looks okay at best, but won't scale with my Classics and not as good as ToyWorld Hegemon.

Leader Armada Megatron - This actually works, but I don't need a Generations Armada Megatron. Great for Armada fans though.

Subscription Service 3.0 - Not one of those do I want, not signing up this year.

AOE Stuff - No longer collecting movie universe stuff. In fact selling everything I've got.

Now I'm sure many of you will read this and say, "Oh, he's just one of those third-party superiority complex people." Not the case, I want Hasbro to make things I want. I want to pay Hasbro prices, rather than third-party price. But they have got to start being more proactive. Everything they showed was reactive. Case in point: They teased a Superion Generations combiner. Sorry, but I already have one from TFC, and despite it's flaws will likely be better than their version. A smarter move would have been to have teased a Generations Defensor. It would damage TFC's sales and pre-orders.

However, I do concede that these are great reveals for those not collecting third-party. For me personally though, boring.

ausbot wrote:Shane McCarthy is not that bad, the Mars Attack crossover was fun.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

ausbot wrote:Shane McCarthy is not that bad, the Mars Attack crossover was fun.

The truth is, he's really NOT that bad. But Drift sucks, and AHM was a kinda lame. If he can deliver, more power to him. But so far, his track record is...lacking.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Dammit the clear optimus was the only reason i wanted the set and since it's not... pass. >:oP

gavinfuzzy wrote:This looks like clear plastic...



What happened here.



Dammit the clear optimus was the only reason i wanted the set and since it's not... pass. >:oP

leakin' lubricant wrote:

El Duque wrote:Wow, all in all I'm very disappointed by almost everything they revealed.

I don't collect Legends unless scale dictates the characters should be a Legends Class, so I have no interest in that Nemesis Prime, not to mention I'm kinda done with Nemesis Prime in general.

Legends Cliffjumer - Already have a Deluxe with third-party upgrades

Legends Thundercracker - again the scale issue, plus I just got iGear's new Raptor version, which is stupidly amazing.

Legends Windcharger - This one blows my mind. I already have a really good Scout Class Windcharger so that alone means I don't need this guy, but why the Hell not announce a Tailgate redeco of the previously released Scout Windcharger. We're actually going backwards here.

Legends Powerglide - This guy looks good, but I already have the Deluxe sized on from Xtransbots and it's pretty damn good. iGear also has plans to release a Powerglide in the Mini Warrrior line. Still, I might get this guy.

Legends Bombshell - Looks pretty good, but it's not going to replace my FansProject version.

Deluxe Arcee - Looks good, but really late to the party. I currently have iGear's Delicate Warrior, and really like her. Not to mention Perfect Effect has a really good Arcee, and MMC is apparently going to release a whole series of Fembots that look really nice. I may get her just because this will be Hasbro's first attempt at real G1-ish Arcee.

Deluce Chomia - Looks interesting, even though she appears to be an extensive remold of the PRID Arcee mold. Will probably get her.

Voyager Brainstorm - Look really good, but again late to the party. I already have two version of this character, FansProject and Toyworld. I'll probably get him, but if he does't surpass the ToyWorld version once I have him in-hand he'll get sold. Though I do hold out hope, after all, the Hasbro Springer replaced my FansProject Defender.

Voyager Optimus Prime - No, Hell no. Looks terrible, looks worse that the Classics Voyager that came out years ago. Neither of which hold a candle to ToyWorld Orion.

Leader Megatron - Pass. Looks okay at best, but won't scale with my Classics and not as good as ToyWorld Hegemon.

Leader Armada Megatron - This actually works, but I don't need a Generations Armada Megatron. Great for Armada fans though.

Subscription Service 3.0 - Not one of those do I want, not signing up this year.

AOE Stuff - No longer collecting movie universe stuff. In fact selling everything I've got.

Now I'm sure many of you will read this and say, "Oh, he's just one of those third-party superiority complex people." Not the case, I want Hasbro to make things I want. I want to pay Hasbro prices, rather than third-party price. But they have got to start being more proactive. Everything they showed was reactive. Case in point: They teased a Superion Generations combiner. Sorry, but I already have one from TFC, and despite it's flaws will likely be better than their version. A smarter move would have been to have teased a Generations Defensor. It would damage TFC's sales and pre-orders.

However, I do concede that these are great reveals for those not collecting third-party. For me personally though, boring.

I'm with you mate, every one of those Generations figures has a highly superior 3rd party version out or coming out, Hasbro had the chance to do something special here and blow it's 3rd party rivals out of the water, instead the took the quick and easy route, not good enough Hasbro.

Mindmaster wrote:We got a small taste at what's to come with the on-floor gallery of several of the new Generations toys revealed today, but are you ready for a whole serving? That's right, it's official images time!

First dish of the meal are the Generations Legends figures, whose ranks were reinforced with the arrival of Nemesis Prime (obligatory baddie redeco of the previous Optimus Prime mold) with Spinister(redeco of Bumblebee's partner Blazemaster); Cliffjumper (more than obligatory redeco of the previous Bumblebee mold) with Suppressor (redeco of Optimus Prime's partner Roller); and currently parnter-less Thundercracker, Windcharger, Powerglide, and Bombshell (that's right, he's Bombshell now, no longer Hardshell!)





























The next part of the meal encompasses the newly revealed Generations Deluxes, the long-overdue Arcee and Chromia!









Also available on the menu are two entrees of your choosing: Brainstorm (with a functioning Headmaster gimmick!) and Optimus Prime (loosely based on his appearance in the IDW comics)









And finally, to round off the meal, we have double trouble Megatrons! The first Megatron is slavishly Generation One, while the second version of Megatron takes his ques from his Armada counterpart (complete with his classic serrated horns!)

megatronus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere...

In addition to Burn's burn, I should point out that Hasbro is the #3 toy company, behind Mattel and, as of this year, LEGO.

How did Mattel get up there? Besides Barbie what do they have?

Off the top of my head?

Hot Wheels, Matchbox, MOTU, DC Figures License, WWE, Disney Figures License, American Girl, Monster High...

They're #1. I hate to admit it, since I really only collect Transformers, Marvel Legends & Star Wars (in that order), but they are.

It Is Him wrote:As a big fan of FOC Bruticus, I'm excited about more combiners. We've got 16 deluxes for 2015. Who wants to take a stab at Case layout?

X5 for Superion
X6 for Devastator
X5 for Defensor or Menasor

Or

X4 Superion limbs
X12 other scramble city type limbs
And voyagers like Silverbolt to give the torso some bulk