Images of Generations Fangry, Nemesis Primal, PulseCon Exclusive Ravage and More

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Wow, there is a lot to unpack here. Firstly, that image we saw yesterday of Agent Ravage is not fake. We have more images of this toy in package and even a video of someone handling the box. This toy is said to be this year's Pulsecon exclusive. This means it will at least be available on Pulse and probably from other fan channels, as the non exclusive Refraktor set was. The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.

We also have images of the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Worlds Collide set which is probably the most random set we have ever gotten. It includes:

Generations Fangry, finally, made from the Titans Return Doublecross mold.
Nemesis Primal, which is the Kingdom Primal mold in Nemesis Prime colours with a new headsculpt.
Bumblebee, probably the most random one, since it's a bumblebee head on a yellow Earthrise Cliffjumper body, meaning that the volkswagen Bee is not getting the rerelease people expected, ensuring those e-bay prices stay high.
Toy colour Blackarachnia with a new head homaging the original toy.

The images of this set come from a user on Instagram who claims they were found at Walmart. We know this set is on Target's computers and that the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line is exclusive to Target in the US but has different retailer exclusivities all over the world. For instance, it is Toysrus exclusive in canada.

Video of Agent Ravage Box

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Comment by -Kanrabat- Jul 10, 2021

william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:

I NEED IT!

Let's hope that if the thing is an exclusive, it will be one that is easy to get.

If it's pulse exclusive, we'll order one together

Yup. With their absurd shipping, it's the only viable option.

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Comment by Nuclearxpotato Jul 10, 2021

william-james88 wrote:The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.

Could've maybe made a better image, but it's definitely Cheetor. A Microcassette is the metric to measure by.
That being said, it seems everything but the butt, tail, and lower legs + feet is retooled... and even then, it's hard to tell if the lower legs are the same.

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Comment by Mindmaster Jul 10, 2021

Now that we get a good look at cassette tape Ravage, we can see it’s a G1 reissue. Meaning it’s bigger than the tapes we got from Siege. Meaning previous comparisons between Siege Ravage and Cheetor are off. This Ravage is bigger by comparison to Cheetor since G1 Ravage is thicker than new Ravage. By all accounts then, with this information, this basically confirms Ravage is one stupid-heavy retool of the elusive Tigatron.

*puffs on bubble pipe*

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Comment by Nuclearxpotato Jul 10, 2021

Mindmaster wrote:Now that we get a good look at cassette tape Ravage, we can see it’s a G1 reissue. Meaning it’s bigger than the tapes we got from Siege. Meaning previous comparisons between Siege Ravage and Cheetor are off. This Ravage is bigger by comparison to Cheetor since G1 Ravage is thicker than new Ravage. By all accounts then, with this information, this basically confirms Ravage is one stupid-heavy retool of the elusive Tigatron.

*puffs on bubble pipe*

I compared it to an MP Microcassette (KFC Sting-thing), which I believe are the same scale as the G1 cassettes (with maybe a millimetre in difference). Correct me if I'm wrong though, I've never seen a G1 microcassette and MP one side-by-side.

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Comment by william-james88 Jul 10, 2021

Nuclearxpotato wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.

Could've maybe made a better image, but it's definitely Cheetor. A Microcassette is the metric to measure by.
That being said, it seems everything but the butt, tail, and lower legs + feet is retooled... and even then, it's hard to tell if the lower legs are the same.

Your photo is telling me the reverse instead. The G1 casette looks much bigger in comparison to Cheetor than it does in comaprison to Agent Ravage

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Comment by Mindmaster Jul 10, 2021

Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Now that we get a good look at cassette tape Ravage, we can see it’s a G1 reissue. Meaning it’s bigger than the tapes we got from Siege. Meaning previous comparisons between Siege Ravage and Cheetor are off. This Ravage is bigger by comparison to Cheetor since G1 Ravage is thicker than new Ravage. By all accounts then, with this information, this basically confirms Ravage is one stupid-heavy retool of the elusive Tigatron.

*puffs on bubble pipe*

I compared it to an MP Microcassette (KFC Sting-thing), which I believe are the same scale as the G1 cassettes (with maybe a millimetre in difference). Correct me if I'm wrong though, I've never seen a G1 microcassette and MP one side-by-side.

Yeah, after I posted was when I saw yours. #-o

I have all three, however, none of mine are handily available since all my collection is in storage while I’m deployed overseas so my theory is based mostly on a memory of handling both G1 and Siege coincidentally.

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Comment by Nuclearxpotato Jul 10, 2021

william-james88 wrote:Your photo is telling me the reverse instead. The G1 casette looks much bigger in comparison to Cheetor than it does in comaprison to Agent Ravage

I think that may be due to the increased height from the new head + torso. Ravage's neck starts where Cheetor's nose is and his head is about double the mass, but the shoulders seem to be at around the same height.
I'm comparing the arms since they seem be mostly the same length.

Obviously not a 100% confirmed metric, but I'm just trying not to get anyone's hopes up (or down) at the prospect of this being our first glimpse at Tigatron.

EDIT: One oddity that I haven't seen anyone comment on is the "4 accessories" claim on the back. There's four guns (2 G1, 2 BW) and the tail (which is attached to the butt in box), so did they just not count the tail or did they retool the tail to not be removeable and articulated (the box mural also shows his tail staying attached during transformation, but that could easily be artistic fudging of details).

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Comment by Nemesis Reformatted Jul 10, 2021

I've been bitching constantly about Venom, Ransack, Barrage, Chop Shop, Fangry, Squeezeplay & Horri-Bull. And I'm not going to stop. This is awesome news for me. 1 down, 6 to go. :-D

Also, I was planning to buy a 2nd Grotusque to make a custom Fangry. Thank God now I don't have to.

The Bumblebee is totally stupid but I'm going to make a copy of Cliffjumper's head & make a yellow Cliffjumper straight out of the G1 toy line.

Nemesis Primal is awesome. I've been tempted to get the Kingdom or Netflix Optimus Primal but now I don't have to. I always prefer the Decepticons/Predacons anyway. Those colors are sweet! =P~

Blackarachnia is awesome! More female Transformers are always welcome. Definitely going to swap out the spider legs.

The box is way too big. WTF? :shock:

Also look how tiny Bumblebee is next to the other 2 deluxes. :roll:

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Comment by o.supreme Jul 10, 2021

Bounti76 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:What's the d20/lump of bumblebee poop meant to be? A matrix or kind of a speedball from the ball game episode of cyberverse?

I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be the Allspark. Most recent continuities have it shaped like that.

Yes. It appears to be the exact same Allspark accessory that comes with the Netflix spoiler box. But at least you don't have to dig this one out of black poo.

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Comment by optimeow Jul 10, 2021

Why can't they reissue the Netflix Bumblebee with the VW beetle alt mode?
That is impossible to find at a reasonable, non-scalper price.

The Cliffjumper alt mode has been released in so many different colours.
I would take the VW beetle alt mode even if it is not yellow or if it was a different character.

Fangry's mould has been retooled so many times.
Won't it cost less to just throw out more of Netflix Bumblebee? Did VW restrict the quantity that can be made?

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Comment by -Kanrabat- Jul 10, 2021

optimeow wrote:Why can't they reissue the Netflix Bumblebee with the VW beetle alt mode?
That is impossible to find at a reasonable, non-scalper price.

Take that to Volkswagen. They sit pretty tightly on their VW Beetle licence and it seems time is running out. I may be talking out of my ass, but if this keeps up, I think the upcoming Takara SS Premium Finish Bee Movie Bee may be the last time we will see Bumblebee in an official VW Beetle vehicle mode for a long time.

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Comment by aronjlove Jul 10, 2021

optimeow wrote:Why can't they reissue the Netflix Bumblebee with the VW beetle alt mode?
That is impossible to find at a reasonable, non-scalper price.

The Cliffjumper alt mode has been released in so many different colours.
I would take the VW beetle alt mode even if it is not yellow or if it was a different character.

Fangry's mould has been retooled so many times.
Won't it cost less to just throw out more of Netflix Bumblebee? Did VW restrict the quantity that can be made?

That's the thing. We know for an absolute fact that VW has restrictions but no one knows those exact restrictions. At first, it was assumed good guys were OK so we would get more Autobots in that mold but this here shows that VW was probably only OK for the movie-specific release and one more use which ended up being Netflix. I seriously doubt we will see VW Bumblebee again. Frankly, that company could use all the goodwill it could get so I don't understand but whatever.

Edit: Forgot about the upcoming premium finish as Kanrabat said.

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Comment by Nuclearxpotato Jul 10, 2021

optimeow wrote:The Cliffjumper alt mode has been released in so many different colours.
I would take the VW beetle alt mode even if it is not yellow or if it was a different character.

I really do wish there was a secondary vehicle mode in the tooling. I know it could be seen as an undercut to include something like the Classics Bee alt mode (which was based on the 2000s Bug), but it would honestly add so much variety. Personally I don't think the Classics Bee car looks too similar to a VW (especially not the classic bug) and think it would work wonders on the ER mold.

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Comment by Overcracker Jul 10, 2021

william-james88 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.

Could've maybe made a better image, but it's definitely Cheetor. A Microcassette is the metric to measure by.
That being said, it seems everything but the butt, tail, and lower legs + feet is retooled... and even then, it's hard to tell if the lower legs are the same.

Your photo is telling me the reverse instead. The G1 casette looks much bigger in comparison to Cheetor than it does in comaprison to Agent Ravage

Gonna have to agree with WJ. It looks like Ravage is actually using the Voyager sized Tigatron mod, that we have yet to see.

Ím not surprised it shares some engineering and design with Cheetor while still being bugger.

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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Jul 10, 2021

The Worlds Collide pack will be mine, if only for Blackarachnia and Fangry (that one is based more on TR Grotusque than TR Twinferno. Same base mold tho). Shame Bumblebee is the Cliffjumper alt, o well.

Nice leopard-print on BA, which shows her original art has had an influence:

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Comment by Sabrblade Jul 10, 2021

Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.

Could've maybe made a better image, but it's definitely Cheetor. A Microcassette is the metric to measure by.
That being said, it seems everything but the butt, tail, and lower legs + feet is retooled... and even then, it's hard to tell if the lower legs are the same.

Your photo is telling me the reverse instead. The G1 casette looks much bigger in comparison to Cheetor than it does in comaprison to Agent Ravage

Gonna have to agree with WJ. It looks like Ravage is actually using the Voyager sized Tigatron mod, that we have yet to see.

Ím not surprised it shares some engineering and design with Cheetor while still being bugger.

Another comparison:

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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Jul 10, 2021

Bounti76 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ravage almost looks like the original toy, was that ever released in the US? That Buzzworthy set is just, no. We already have a yellow Cliffjumper mold, but I can understand why they used it, Evergreen design. Fangry doesn't even come with any of the blasters that were part of the tooling of that mold, which actually completes beast mode to some extent.

They could just be packaged in the box where we can't see them, like the other Kingdom figures. I think the only reason we can see Bumper's Bumblebee's guns is to make up for the tiny size of the figure.

We did see an out-of-box shot with the figures holding the accessories and Fangry had none. Poor Fangry, he can't play with the other repaints with new heads.

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Comment by -Kanrabat- Jul 10, 2021

No one though that this Ravage may be its own unique mold? :-?

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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Jul 10, 2021

-Kanrabat- wrote:No one though that this Ravage may be its own unique mold?

Legs are definitely reused, note the knee-paws.

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Comment by RiddlerJ Jul 10, 2021

I like that Ravage set.

But the Bumblebee set feels like a waste. I just want Fangry.

Still, hopefully this means Squeezeplay and Horri-Bull are in the pipeline. Then again, we got Crosshairs two years ago with no sign of his buddies.

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