Images of What Looks like Kingdom Pipes and Blue Bluestreak

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Munkky wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Munkky wrote:Chefatron has put up images of Kingdom Pipes on his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CSa6D9PhQRN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSa6C2ChXoY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSbC2n_BrjT/
It looks like Pipes isn't just a repaint with a new head sculpt, they've also retooled the torso.

Not just that, it looks like they did something to the wrists/forearms to fill in the gaps and the backpack can swivel around now, definitely looking much better than huffer, he was a disaster that couldn't even transform into vehicle mode correctly

It's lucky you've said that before I bought a Huffer, been thinking about it for a while, but am I better off skipping it?

On an unrelated note, I got an e-mail through just now confirming my Rhinox has shipped, but I'm going on a weekend break this Friday so I hope he lands tomorrow so I don't have to chase it up at the post office on Monday morning.

yeah I say skip it, I don't know what happened with huffer, but I haven't seen anyone with a copy that can squish down properly into vehicle mode

If I recall correctly, I couldn't get Huffer's cab to sit at a perfect 90 degree angle to the bed due to the engineering of the chest, but it's only a slight deviation, not something that ruined the toy for me. On balance I think he's a great G1 minibot that fits in right alongside the other WfC guys as well as the Prime Wars era figures. He's not perfect but I would absolutely not call him a disaster. YMMV, tho.

I like the way pipes looks! Glad I waited on the huffer mold for this guy

Blue bluestreak looks cool too, that'll be tempting since I only have Smokescreen and Barricade rn

I wonder if Pipes will actually have 2 guns that can attach to his forearms.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if Pipes will actually have 2 guns that can attach to his forearms.

Looks like he has the forearm holes, and hopefully the two guns. It'd be a shame to only have the one

I may be setting my hopes to high, but it seems the Pulse fan event this Friday will definitely be a Kingdom wave 4 reveal,plus whatever else has been/ will be leaked in the next 48 hours ( Road Rage, Bluestrek etc...). I'm kind of excited we haven't seen Slammer yet as he's the only item in wave 4 I really want. Hopefully the next Haslab will be revealed as well, but they may be better off to wait until Galactus is done.

More stolen toys to show off... They look great but how do these people get them so early especially when blue has not been officially revealed yet.

o.supreme wrote:I may be setting my hopes to high, but it seems the Pulse fan event this Friday will definitely be a Kingdom wave 4 reveal,plus whatever else has been/ will be leaked in the next 48 hours ( Road Rage, Bluestrek etc...). I'm kind of excited we haven't seen Slammer yet as he's the only item in wave 4 I really want. Hopefully the next Haslab will be revealed as well, but they may be better off to wait until Galactus is done.

The main reveal I'm hoping for is the Amazon "Golden Disk" range that had listing leaked a while ago, particularly the Terrorsaur we're supposedly getting from that. After Tigatron, Waspinator and this Terrorsaur if it is indeed happening, then that would be me done with Kingdom and ready for the next thing.

Some Golden Disk reveals would be great as well. Though if these are akin to the Galactic Odyssey collection of ER, I believe they were revealed a bit later in the year?

o.supreme wrote:Some Golden Disk reveals would be great as well. Though if these are akin to the Galactic Odyssey collection of ER, I believe they were revealed a bit later in the year?

As far as I remember, the second Galactic Odyssey set, Fastlane and Cloudraker, was revealed on the same day as Kingdom wave 1, which was in August, and the Ratchet and Lifeline set was announced shortly before that. So now would be the best time to wheel out the Golden Disk stuff if it is indeed still happening.

THAT'S BLUESTREAK! That's not Diaclone. That is the real Bluestreak straight off the official Hasbro G1 box. The one in the cartoon is Silverstreak. Because I don't really care about the cartoon. There are so many mistakes in the cartoon I can't be bothered with "toon accuracy". That would drive me nuts.

This is the best news! I have an extra Earthrise Prowl here that I was planning to repaint into blue Bluestreak. Thank God now I don't have to. Now I'll probably make that Prowl into Go-Shooter. I have the Takara Legends Go-Shooter head that came with Wheelie. He needs a body. Or maybe I'll make a custom Nightbeat???

Man, this is AWESOME NEWS!!!

Pipes is awesome too & automatically bought. Only problem is his arms really need to be silver. That's an easy fix.

Munkky wrote:As far as I remember, the second Galactic Odyssey set, Fastlane and Cloudraker, was revealed on the same day as Kingdom wave 1, which was in August, and the Ratchet and Lifeline set was announced shortly before that. So now would be the best time to wheel out the Golden Disk stuff if it is indeed still happening.

Trust me, I know how fuzzy memory can be. I did some looking back. the Kingdom Brand (some artwork) was revealed in August 2020, and many wave 1 toys (and names of toys for future waves) were leaked that month as well. But the official reveal of Kingdom wave 1 by Hasbro wasn't until PulseCon on Sept 26, 2020.

However...Also in looking back, yes it appears GO started it's reveals around this time last year. So Golden Disk reveals are not out of the question, it is just perhaps a matter of how much they will fit in. At the end of the day, it always feels like they don't reveal enough.

No doubt they will also lean heavily on the 35th anniversary of TF:TM, though they kind of did all that at the last fan event in the spring, so I cant imagine any more SS86 reveals, at least for this calendar year.

Well I'm impressed with both...
I'd get this Bluestreak and just call the other from Walgreens Silverstreak.

Pipes has had a decent amount of re-tooling done;
Looks like there are difference on the forearms, the tops of the shoulders, the top of the torso (the "fins" to the sides of the head), and obviously the torso itself minus right above the waist.
Other than the cab, the legs and hands look to be identical, but this is nice to see.
And I won't be surprised at all if he does come with two blasters.
But what I like the most is just how different he looks than Huffer. I'm sure most of that is due to the color differences, but still, the headsculpt itself is very distinctive.
Not to mention, these two being in-between the Datsuns and Bee/Cliffjumper adds some good visual variety to the Autobots.

Man, right when I thought the checking account may get a bit of a breather after October...
Although I'm really not complaining, these two look solid.

Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

Seibertron wrote:Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

I'm pretty sure he had Blue eyes the cartoon. small blue eyes rather than a full visor.

There's also the "Puffer" variant of Huffer, which was sold as Pipes in some countries in Latin America and also had red eyes, but had Huffer's body and head.


From https://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini/puffer_template.html

I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

I'm pretty sure he had Blue eyes the cartoon. small blue eyes rather than a full visor.

Red eyes in both episodes he appeared in. Which is understandable, makes them stand out more against his... well, blue.

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds, and not leftovers. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were Hasbro-original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yes! I saw a video Chris McFeely did on that a while back, that was pretty fascinating.

Only gripe for Pipes was I wish he had red eyes. Other than that, solid!

Definitely getting Bluestreak for the wrong reasons (Shattered Glass stand-in)

Sabrblade wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were Hasbro-original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yup, hence the big M on the front the of the vehicles. It was pretty cool to have Jim Shooter himself talk all about it to me when we were in a bar together once.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yes! I saw a video Chris McFeely did on that a while back, that was pretty fascinating.

Same here!

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

I'm pretty sure he had Blue eyes the cartoon. small blue eyes rather than a full visor.

Red eyes in both episodes he appeared in. Which is understandable, makes them stand out more against his... well, blue.

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds, and not leftovers. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Those look blue to me:

Overcracker wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

I'm pretty sure he had Blue eyes the cartoon. small blue eyes rather than a full visor.

Red eyes in both episodes he appeared in. Which is understandable, makes them stand out more against his... well, blue.

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds, and not leftovers. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Those look blue to me:

Both from TFWiki... THE source for Hasbro.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Both from TFWiki... THE source for Hasbro.

I don't blame em. If you had one place online that kept record of everything your company did for a brand for free, best use it.

Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

ok, so I just popped in my DVD with FFODpart5 and you are BOTH right. When Pipes leads the Autoboots early on at Autobot HQ against Trypticon, he DOES have Blue eyes. Later when he is installing Metroplex's new Cog he has Red eyes...I'm checking Forever is a long time coming in a minute....

There's a rumored Puffer Pipes right? With the golden disk line or something?

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

Indeed.

o.supreme wrote:ok, so I just popped in my DVD with FFODpart5 and you are BOTH right. When Pipes leads the Autoboots early on at Autobot HQ against Trypticon, he DOES have Blue eyes. Later when he is installing Metroplex's new Cog he has Red eyes...I'm checking Forever is a long time coming in a minute....

Thanks.

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

So, how about the no eyes variant...

Lastly, just for grins, I checked the old Rhino DVD's also, because we know how they liked to "fix" things with that version, but nothing was different.... The inconsistencies in eye color were consistent across both releases. Pipes brief appearance in "Forever" had him with Red eyes throughout both his scenes.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

So, how about the no eyes variant

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

How inconsistent the entire show was.

I was really hoping we'd get to Friday with no more leaks, but clearly Chefatron wants his fifteen seconds in the spotlight.


To those mentioning that Pipes has wrist fillers: no he doesn't.
Also his name is Silverstreak, not Bluestreak. They're doing an irony thing by using the backup trademark.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

How inconsistent the entire show was.

I was really hoping we'd get to Friday with no more leaks, but clearly Chefatron wants his fifteen seconds in the spotlight.


To those mentioning that Pipes has wrist fillers: no he doesn't.
Also his name is Silverstreak, not Bluestreak. They're doing an irony thing by using the backup trademark.

I was just about to say that, isn't fxfranz just chefatron with a different username? Don't really like the guy's stuff, very big baby tantrum / angry reviewer energy in it.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:How inconsistent the entire show was.

True, but AKOM noticeably in the 3rd season had the most egregious errors due to the very short turn time and pressure they were under to animate the episodes. Besides, it's not like the comics didn't have plenty of inconsistencies either.

Finally I can do something with his stupid truck backpack by rotating it around. plus I'm a sucker for any Transformer with a mouth Plate. Sold.

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Both from TFWiki... THE source for Hasbro.

I don't blame em. If you had one place online that kept record of everything your company did for a brand for free, best use it.

It's pretty funny to see a note in a TFWiki article that basically says "yeah this figure's color scheme is slightly inaccurate because Hasbro used the image at the top of this article as a reference." The Quintesson Baliff is one example

All that white on Bluestreak doesn't sit well with me, otherwise I'd be all over this. At least alt mode will look good.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:All that white on Bluestreak doesn't sit well with me, otherwise I'd be all over this. At least alt mode will look good.

Isn't white the proper color for those parts on the actual Diaclone Blue Datsun though?

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:All that white on Bluestreak doesn't sit well with me, otherwise I'd be all over this. At least alt mode will look good.

Isn't white the proper color for those parts on the actual Diaclone Blue Datsun though?

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Seriously? Ugh, I was looking at my Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak, who has silver instead of white. May as well just toss that in the trash now for this more accurate one...

Sowndwave76 wrote:I received notification a bit earlier this evening that the Ark is going to show up real early from Amazon;
THIS Thursday!!!!

^Just curious if you (or anyone else expecting something from Amazon currently) got a shipping notice? Mine still says Rodimus is expected to arrive TODAY by 10pm, but it has neither shipped, nor has my account been charged...I know Amazon has pulled this goofiness before, it is still no less frustrating, especially sometimes when we actually do get items early. I expect the inevitable delay notification any time now...

o.supreme wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I received notification a bit earlier this evening that the Ark is going to show up real early from Amazon;
THIS Thursday!!!!

^Just curious if you (or anyone else expecting something from Amazon currently) got a shipping notice? Mine still says Rodimus is expected to arrive TODAY by 10pm, but it has neither shipped, nor has my account been charged...I know Amazon has pulled this goofiness before, it is still no less frustrating, especially sometimes when we actually do get items early. I expect the inevitable delay notification any time now...

Yes and no? Yes for my Rodimus, he is on the was I got the shipping notice and is out for delivery.

For the Ark, I pre-ordered immediately when they first opened pre-orders and still haven't even received a shipping notice yet despite a few others being able to pre-order just last week and having at least received a shipping notice.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Seriously? Ugh, I was looking at my Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak, who has silver instead of white. May as well just toss that in the trash now for this more accurate one...

Do people really value Accuracy over Enjoyment

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Seriously? Ugh, I was looking at my Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak, who has silver instead of white. May as well just toss that in the trash now for this more accurate one...

Do people really value Accuracy over Enjoyment

Specially when they clearly didn't even remember what the guy actually looked like in the first place.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yes! I saw a video Chris McFeely did on that a while back, that was pretty fascinating.

It really made my day that in 2020 we are STILL able to find new and interesting things out about Transformers that we didn't know before. It's a shame that Hasbro doesn't share this early info with us more readily, maybe they don't even know anymore.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yes! I saw a video Chris McFeely did on that a while back, that was pretty fascinating.

It really made my day that in 2020 we are STILL able to find new and interesting things out about Transformers that we didn't know before. It's a shame that Hasbro doesn't share this early info with us more readily, maybe they don't even know anymore.

They probably just didn't know, or didn't know people cared. For most of the people working there it's just a job. Think about Budiansky or Forward & DiTillio discovering people actually gave a damn about the stories they were writing.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I received notification a bit earlier this evening that the Ark is going to show up real early from Amazon;
THIS Thursday!!!!

^Just curious if you (or anyone else expecting something from Amazon currently) got a shipping notice? Mine still says Rodimus is expected to arrive TODAY by 10pm, but it has neither shipped, nor has my account been charged...I know Amazon has pulled this goofiness before, it is still no less frustrating, especially sometimes when we actually do get items early. I expect the inevitable delay notification any time now...

Yes and no? Yes for my Rodimus, he is on the was I got the shipping notice and is out for delivery.

For the Ark, I pre-ordered immediately when they first opened pre-orders and still haven't even received a shipping notice yet despite a few others being able to pre-order just last week and having at least received a shipping notice.

Well I just got my email for the Rodimus delay, it now says August 27th . You would think, they never heard the phrase: Underpromise & Overdeliver. I mean if they had just kept the original 9/3 delivery date until it actually ships, and I get it any time before then, I'd be extremely happy instead of the random pendulum swinging dates they like to throw out.

Amazon came through again...
The photos below show that not only was mine shipped in a box,
the Ark was in an actual Hasbro box as well.








Amazon is really earning my loyalty when it comes to preorders!

Interesting. So does that mean The Ark is shipped as individual units? The last time I saw, which was admittedly a while ago, Titans were shipped in large boxes of 2 each.

-- just curious,do the small front panels pop off yours super easily? Mine do which makes it a bit annoying.

o.supreme wrote:Interesting. So does that mean The Ark is shipped as individual units? The last time I saw, which was admittedly a while ago, Titans were shipped in large boxes of 2 each.

-- just curious,do the small front panels pop off yours super easily? Mine do which makes it a bit annoying.

I wouldn't doubt if it is shipped individually... I guess I don't see why Hastak would do this only for Amazon... Especially if they're just going to put it in another box anyway.

So... I'm going to wait to open this guy...
I'm a teacher, and as of right now I'm not super pumped about going back to the grind of waking up at 5:30 Monday through Friday.
I think I'm going to wait until early to mid-September to open him, so I have something TF-related to look forward to after the school year starts.
Now, will I really hold-out that long? Who knows... But sorry, I can't answer your question yet. Hopefully that's not a wide-spread issue.
Is there a way you'll be able to fix that?

I'm impressed and pleased with the amount of retooling Hasbro/Takara have done with Kingdom Pipes from Kingdom Huffer. I didn't realize there were so many people complaining about Huffer, though. He seems pretty great to me, with a very faithful robot and alternate modes to the G1 cartoon. The transformation is pretty simple, except for the arms/smokestacks, which take a little more work, but when you tab everything in correctly, the truck looks fine and rolls perfectly, despite the seemingly low clearance of the "undercarriage" of the truck/robot mode chest. Maybe it's one of those "your mileage may vary" quality control things?

Sowndwave76 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Interesting. So does that mean The Ark is shipped as individual units? The last time I saw, which was admittedly a while ago, Titans were shipped in large boxes of 2 each.

-- just curious,do the small front panels pop off yours super easily? Mine do which makes it a bit annoying.

I wouldn't doubt if it is shipped individually... I guess I don't see why Hastak would do this only for Amazon... Especially if they're just going to put it in another box anyway.

So... I'm going to wait to open this guy...
I'm a teacher, and as of right now I'm not super pumped about going back to the grind of waking up at 5:30 Monday through Friday.
I think I'm going to wait until early to mid-September to open him, so I have something TF-related to look forward to after the school year starts.
Now, will I really hold-out that long? Who knows... But sorry, I can't answer your question yet. Hopefully that's not a wide-spread issue.
Is there a way you'll be able to fix that?

I'm actually thinking they ship in both single packs and cases of 2 depending on the retailer. Amazon likely gets them all single packed so they can just turn around and ship them. Target stores I suspect get cases of 2. I just found him this morning and there were 2, but the slight crushing on the corners of both of them indicated they were in the same case box to me.

Also, naturally everyone started getting Amazon shipping notices but me, despite ordering the minute it went live. Found him in store this morning, went to cancel on Amazon and they say he's being prepared to ship and they can't guarantee they can cancel, so I may end up with a second one to return.