Netflix Transformers Wave 3 Voyagers Found in Canada and UK
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 4, 2021
These voyager prices are not normal because they were 60$CAN plus taxes previously. The clearance price of the previous wave have not been changed for some odd reasons.
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I'll take it
You still looking for shitstorm right? Do I get you one if I find another?
Comment by william-james88
May 4, 2021
-Kanrabat- wrote:These voyager prices are not normal because they were 60$CAN plus taxes previously. The clearance price of the previous wave have not been changed for some odd reasons.
I'll take it
You still looking for shitstorm right? Do I get you one if I find another?
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Comment by blackeyedprime
May 4, 2021
Well that was an easy wave to complete :p
One purchase made and wave 3 is done for me.
One purchase made and wave 3 is done for me.
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I'm already planning a trade with someone but if you can find one, I wouldn't mind having a spare just in case. Especially at that ridiculous price. But if the price go back to full, I'll pass.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 4, 2021
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:These voyager prices are not normal because they were 60$CAN plus taxes previously. The clearance price of the previous wave have not been changed for some odd reasons.
I'll take it
I'm already planning a trade with someone but if you can find one, I wouldn't mind having a spare just in case. Especially at that ridiculous price. But if the price go back to full, I'll pass.
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I don't have Sparkless, but my Thundercracker has issues similar to this. One of his arms doesn't particularly like tabbing into his wing OR his leg, and that hinders the wing from tabbing into the nose as well.
And it's interesting to hear about the plastic quality. Makes me wonder if that's part of the cost-cutting measures Hasbro's going to be using the second half of the year.
Comment by Tuned Agent
May 4, 2021
william-james88 wrote:Who's got the Netflix Sparkless Seeker? Because I want to know if I have a dud or not. Every version of this mold so far had no issue tabbing in. The vehicle mode always feels held together well (once you clip in the fake chest in the back of course). But this one, feels really off. The parts where the arms tab into the legs has issues and I can't seem to have both the right and left sides of the spaceship clip into the nose properly. You get either one or the other, not both at the same time.
Now what I am sure everyone felt though is the change in plastic. This one feels way cheaper and feeble than any plastic used on this seeker mold in the past. Reminds me of the FOC era and I thought we were waaay past that.
I don't have Sparkless, but my Thundercracker has issues similar to this. One of his arms doesn't particularly like tabbing into his wing OR his leg, and that hinders the wing from tabbing into the nose as well.
And it's interesting to hear about the plastic quality. Makes me wonder if that's part of the cost-cutting measures Hasbro's going to be using the second half of the year.
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My Netflix Cheetor feels fine and possibly ever-so-slightly heavier than Ractonite (but that may just be weight distribution due to their different bodies) and I'd assume he'd have the same plastic issues if it was this widespread.
And I hate to be the boy that cries Mold degradation (people claim that far too much), but Shitstorm is the eighth or so usage of the mold over the course of two years. Hasbro no doubt already had the ER Seeker planned during the Siege Seeker's development so they probably anticipated it being used less.
And then the Rainmakers happened.
And then the Netflix line happened.
It's possible that the mold has just been slowly constricting its casting space with each use, resulting in Shitstorm having slightly thinner plastic, but really only time will tell (SG Starscream is just around the corner...)
Comment by Nuclearxpotato
May 5, 2021
Tuned Agent wrote:And it's interesting to hear about the plastic quality. Makes me wonder if that's part of the cost-cutting measures Hasbro's going to be using the second half of the year.
My Netflix Cheetor feels fine and possibly ever-so-slightly heavier than Ractonite (but that may just be weight distribution due to their different bodies) and I'd assume he'd have the same plastic issues if it was this widespread.
And I hate to be the boy that cries Mold degradation (people claim that far too much), but Shitstorm is the eighth or so usage of the mold over the course of two years. Hasbro no doubt already had the ER Seeker planned during the Siege Seeker's development so they probably anticipated it being used less.
And then the Rainmakers happened.
And then the Netflix line happened.
It's possible that the mold has just been slowly constricting its casting space with each use, resulting in Shitstorm having slightly thinner plastic, but really only time will tell (SG Starscream is just around the corner...)
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Comment by DEANO85
May 5, 2021
Waiting for wave 3 to show up in Australia. I want that Deep Cover
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I don't think that is likely the case here. Sure it is the 8th use of the mold, but that was just average mold usage during Combiner Wars where just about every mold (except shuttle blast off) was used at least 6-8 times.
Comment by TF-fan kev777
May 5, 2021
Nuclearxpotato wrote:And I hate to be the boy that cries Mold degradation (people claim that far too much), but Shitstorm is the eighth or so usage of the mold over the course of two years.
I don't think that is likely the case here. Sure it is the 8th use of the mold, but that was just average mold usage during Combiner Wars where just about every mold (except shuttle blast off) was used at least 6-8 times.
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True, but I was thinking more about how the complexity and size of the Siegekers would change their mold's stability over time. Also most CW molds just swapped out parts for a secondary retool mold so that may have lightened the load a bit. I honestly think it's likely that Hasbro just used a slightly cheaper plastic on this release due some budget balancing for the figure.
While we're on the topic of CW, am I the only one who has grown to really dislike CW as more time has passed? I think the budget cuts that happened between it and T30 really shows in the complexity of the figures (which was slowly adjusted over the rest of the Prime Wars). Like compare CW Breakdown to TR Hot Rod or PotP Blot / Rippersnapper. It wasn't until PotP that HasTak really found their footing again after the budget issues.
Personally the only part I really like about CW was the new characters to the roster. I really enjoy Offroad and hope he isn't just forgotten in media.
Comment by Nuclearxpotato
May 5, 2021
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:And I hate to be the boy that cries Mold degradation (people claim that far too much), but Shitstorm is the eighth or so usage of the mold over the course of two years.
I don't think that is likely the case here. Sure it is the 8th use of the mold, but that was just average mold usage during Combiner Wars where just about every mold (except shuttle blast off) was used at least 6-8 times.
True, but I was thinking more about how the complexity and size of the Siegekers would change their mold's stability over time. Also most CW molds just swapped out parts for a secondary retool mold so that may have lightened the load a bit. I honestly think it's likely that Hasbro just used a slightly cheaper plastic on this release due some budget balancing for the figure.
While we're on the topic of CW, am I the only one who has grown to really dislike CW as more time has passed? I think the budget cuts that happened between it and T30 really shows in the complexity of the figures (which was slowly adjusted over the rest of the Prime Wars). Like compare CW Breakdown to TR Hot Rod or PotP Blot / Rippersnapper. It wasn't until PotP that HasTak really found their footing again after the budget issues.
Personally the only part I really like about CW was the new characters to the roster. I really enjoy Offroad and hope he isn't just forgotten in media.
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Combiner Wars is still my favorite line. I just bought a bunch of the Chinese KO's & I'm working on 4 custom combiners. Someday I hope to get the Botcon & Club exclusives that I missed. I can't get enough of CW.
Comment by Nemesis Reformatted
May 5, 2021
Nuclearxpotato wrote:While we're on the topic of CW, am I the only one who has grown to really dislike CW as more time has passed?
Combiner Wars is still my favorite line. I just bought a bunch of the Chinese KO's & I'm working on 4 custom combiners. Someday I hope to get the Botcon & Club exclusives that I missed. I can't get enough of CW.
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Comment by william-james88
May 5, 2021
I like combiner wars too. The toys are simpler but that's part of the fun of combiners, you want to be able to get them into the right mode for combining.
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I think I just got the worst taste of CW with bad midwestern distribution. I only ever got Breakdown, Offroad, Alpha Bravo, Blackjack, Bombshell, and Chopshop. I imagine Dead End was the far superior car mold (I think TR Chromedome shares engineering?) and probably would've changed my impression.
Comment by Nuclearxpotato
May 5, 2021
william-james88 wrote:I like combiner wars too. The toys are simpler but that's part of the fun of combiners, you want to be able to get them into the right mode for combining.
I think I just got the worst taste of CW with bad midwestern distribution. I only ever got Breakdown, Offroad, Alpha Bravo, Blackjack, Bombshell, and Chopshop. I imagine Dead End was the far superior car mold (I think TR Chromedome shares engineering?) and probably would've changed my impression.
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Yes, he was the superior car mold.
Comment by william-james88
May 5, 2021
Nuclearxpotato wrote:william-james88 wrote:I like combiner wars too. The toys are simpler but that's part of the fun of combiners, you want to be able to get them into the right mode for combining.
I think I just got the worst taste of CW with bad midwestern distribution. I only ever got Breakdown, Offroad, Alpha Bravo, Blackjack, Bombshell, and Chopshop. I imagine Dead End was the far superior car mold (I think TR Chromedome shares engineering?) and probably would've changed my impression.
Yes, he was the superior car mold.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 6, 2021
If only they would have improved the damn ratchets of the combiner hips by now. My only CW combiners that do not feel like rag dolls are my Bruticus, modded with an upgrade kit that include heavy duty springs for the hips, and my K-O undersized Devastator who keep his pose EVEN WHEN SHAKEN. 
I still love my Defensor, Abominus, Computron, and God Neptune.
I even bought all the original G1 versions of these to go along the modern ones, along the BWn God Neptune and G2 Devastator.
If the rumored Menasor 2.0 is true, then I'll get that one and his G1 self as well.
I still love my Defensor, Abominus, Computron, and God Neptune.
I even bought all the original G1 versions of these to go along the modern ones, along the BWn God Neptune and G2 Devastator.
If the rumored Menasor 2.0 is true, then I'll get that one and his G1 self as well.
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Comment by TF-fan kev777
May 6, 2021
Something else to keep in mind about the simplicity of the CW figures, part of the cost for developing CW in the first place went to developing the combiner pegs. That meant less money to go to the rest of the figures and likely drove the need to redeco and retool everything to the extreme.
Contrast that with the PotP combiner limbs that were all a bit more complex, because they already had the pegs developed under CW, with only minor changes made for PotP.
Contrast that with the PotP combiner limbs that were all a bit more complex, because they already had the pegs developed under CW, with only minor changes made for PotP.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
May 6, 2021
And John Warden pitched combiner wars as a line that was going to maximise retools/redecos so there wasn't a budget cut, it was always going to be like that.
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I should've said "increased production cost", 2014-2015 is right when TF figures got more expensive for Hasbro to produce. That's when the Price hikes became more common and older molds were no longer viable for rereleases. I think the best example of this would be the DotM toyline compared to the AoE toyline. Figures in T30 were already slightly simplified (especially Scoop and Starscream) with CW furthering down that path.
Comment by Nuclearxpotato
May 6, 2021
ZeroWolf wrote:And John Warden pitched combiner wars as a line that was going to maximise retools/redecos so there wasn't a budget cut, it was always going to be like that.
I should've said "increased production cost", 2014-2015 is right when TF figures got more expensive for Hasbro to produce. That's when the Price hikes became more common and older molds were no longer viable for rereleases. I think the best example of this would be the DotM toyline compared to the AoE toyline. Figures in T30 were already slightly simplified (especially Scoop and Starscream) with CW furthering down that path.
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You're not the only one. Very quickly I realized that there was no way for the joints to hold anything, and the ratchets in the torso hips didn't have enough "Clicks" so all the Gestalts leaned forward when the arms were raised. Don't get me started on the constant repaints with new heads, or jet Blast-Off.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
May 6, 2021
Nuclearxpotato wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:And I hate to be the boy that cries Mold degradation (people claim that far too much), but Shitstorm is the eighth or so usage of the mold over the course of two years.
I don't think that is likely the case here. Sure it is the 8th use of the mold, but that was just average mold usage during Combiner Wars where just about every mold (except shuttle blast off) was used at least 6-8 times.
True, but I was thinking more about how the complexity and size of the Siegekers would change their mold's stability over time. Also, most CW molds just swapped out parts for a secondary retool mold so that may have lightened the load a bit. I honestly think it's likely that Hasbro just used a slightly cheaper plastic on this release due to some budget-balancing for the figure.
While we're on the topic of CW, am I the only one who has grown to really dislike CW as more time has passed? I think the budget cuts that happened between it and T30 really show in the complexity of the figures (which was slowly adjusted over the rest of the Prime Wars). Like, compare CW Breakdown to TR Hot Rod or PotP Blot / Rippersnapper. It wasn't until PotP that HasTak really found their footing again after the budget issues.
Personally, the only part I really like about CW was the new characters on the roster. I really enjoy Offroad and hope he isn't just forgotten in media.
You're not the only one. Very quickly I realized that there was no way for the joints to hold anything, and the ratchets in the torso hips didn't have enough "Clicks" so all the Gestalts leaned forward when the arms were raised. Don't get me started on the constant repaints with new heads, or jet Blast-Off.
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Comment by Razorbeast88
May 8, 2021
Nemesis prime spoiler pack is back in stock on BBTS for $59.99 USD
Couldn't resist myself, not too invested in the character but love the weapons, makes for a vader-type transformer and I can have him and Sky Byte as my RID guys
Couldn't resist myself, not too invested in the character but love the weapons, makes for a vader-type transformer and I can have him and Sky Byte as my RID guys
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Thanks for the heads up!
I snagged one for myself.
Comment by triKlops
May 8, 2021
Razorbeast88 wrote:Nemesis prime spoiler pack is back in stock on BBTS for $59.99 USD
Thanks for the heads up!
I snagged one for myself.
