New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider

Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.

william-james88 wrote:

RhA wrote:Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.

Even Dragstrip? Groove has more paint apps than him.

Dragstrip! You lose!

shajaki wrote:Wow.. Dragstrip sure is.. yellow. Which is hard to complain about since its accurate. But damn..

Groove however makes me happy in ways I'd rather not describe.

And for those same reasons, his heavier price tag makes me sad

Also, while the headsculpt is awesome, I am surprised Takara didnt go screen accurate with his eyes:

I wasn't sure about Dragstrip before, but I do think he looks good. A couple smaller details or washes wouldn't have hurt, but as it is, I'm happy.

I totally understand G1 'purism'. But to me, it never has, and still doesn't make sense to have a motorcycle that seems to be as massive as a car or a truck. I know most people just say 'mass-forming', but that's the lazy way out - akin to Xena saying 'a wizard did it'.

'But what about the...'
'Wizard!'
'But in this scene it very clearly...'
'WIZARD!!!'

Even in the Prime series, they had to make Arcee mass form a LOT to make her even close to the size of the other Autobots. If her robot mode remained true to the mass and size she had as a motorcycle, she'd have only been maybe seven or eight feet tall and a few hundred pounds, not the near-twenty feet and 2-3 tons they had her clomping around in on the show.

Groove would suffer similarly. Even the biggest, beefiest motorcycles on the roads today don't come anywhere near to being as massive as an Ambulance or a sports car. Sure, you can MAKE one that big, but a person riding around in such a king-sized motorcycle would look ridiculous, just as a grown man would look ridiculous trying to ride on a children's tricycle.

So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.

Shockwave7 wrote:I totally understand G1 'purism'. But to me, it never has, and still doesn't make sense to have a motorcycle that seems to be as massive as a car or a truck. I know most people just say 'mass-forming', but that's the lazy way out - akin to Xena saying 'a wizard did it'.

'But what about the...'
'Wizard!'
'But in this scene it very clearly...'
'WIZARD!!!'

Even in the Prime series, they had to make Arcee mass form a LOT to make her even close to the size of the other Autobots. If her robot mode remained true to the mass and size she had as a motorcycle, she'd have only been maybe seven or eight feet tall and a few hundred pounds, not the near-twenty feet and 2-3 tons they had her clomping around in on the show.

Groove would suffer similarly. Even the biggest, beefiest motorcycles on the roads today don't come anywhere near to being as massive as an Ambulance or a sports car. Sure, you can MAKE one that big, but a person riding around in such a king-sized motorcycle would look ridiculous, just as a grown man would look ridiculous trying to ride on a children's tricycle.

So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.

I have to agree I like Groove as legends size better. I am pretty much a G1 purist having been 6 and obsessed with Transformers in 84' and I like my minibots legends size and Groove will fit right in. Deluxe Groove does look great and I can justify him being that big of a bike in alt mode as like the junkions where another bot can ride him.

Is it me, or does Groove looks like he's stomping in on Hasbro's HQ to get that guy who thought replacing him with Rook was a great idea?

Yeah, I like the Hasbro versions of these guys better. These are more G1 accurate but their original toys were smaller and could get away with simpler paint jobs.

I would like that Groove but as long as I, at least, have A Groove for the Protectabots, I'm happy.

Rated X wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

I think you got it backwards buddy. The head mold was always meant to be vortex, they just painted it to resemble slingshot. The alt mode is a generic helicopter that can pass off as either being military or rescue for both blades and vortex. (hence the missiles) In other words, alpha bravo is the lazy repaint. But you can put him in your shattered glass colection as SG Vortex...problem solved !

Or you could just keep him as the character he is. That's always a possibility.

Rated X wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

I think you got it backwards buddy. The head mold was always meant to be vortex, they just painted it to resemble slingshot. The alt mode is a generic helicopter that can pass off as either being military or rescue for both blades and vortex. (hence the missiles) In other words, alpha bravo is the lazy repaint. But you can put him in your shattered glass colection as SG Vortex...problem solved !

Vortex's head is generic as all hell. I'd prefer it if they gave him a completely new headsculpt and a new vehicle shell, possibly resembling an Apache attack helicopter. That way he could look completely different to Alpha Bravo.

And Alpha Bravo can't be a "lazy repaint of Vortex" because CW Vortex isn't even out yet.

You know what I wanna do? I wanna get hold of a G1 Superion set and a G1 Vortex, repaint Vortex to resemble Alpha Bravo and replace Slingshot with him. And do the same with Menasor by repainting G1 Swindle into Offroad. Making a Rook will be difficult...Brawl will need heavy mods for it to work.