New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series #70 Bumblebee Deluxe Class B-127

I really don't care much for the mold (fake chest, backpacky shellformery transformation) but I won't lie, he looks kinda nice in yellow. If I were to get any SS Bee it'd probably be the jeep (which is at least slightly less backpack intensive). Also, clever- they released another Bumblebee without calling him Bumblebee!

Speaking of yellow SS figures, Kapow had Skipjack on sale, so I've ordered him (and also Vertebreak). I love how if you don't use the stand he can slither about like a big scary snake-bot. He can be a big brother for my Deluxe ROTF Rampage too! I don't intend to get the full team, but the yellow fellows look rather nice so I'm planning on tracking just them down for Team Tonka.

I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.

Yeah, that was the feeling I got when I was holding him; beyond that, I actually neither want nor care about all his dumb accessories, so I'd feel doubly cheated

I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally got SS86 Hot Rod in hand and I vehemently disapprove of this figure having to be sold at voyager price. The extra parts aren't big enough to justify the voyager sized bubble and box. They could have been kept deluxe size and the accessories would have still fit. I understand the extra parts still would have bumped the price up, but not a whole $10. This could have been sold at $22 or $24. But then it would have to have been an exclusive, which would have been okay with me. We already have so many, 1 more wouldn't make a difference. Or it could have bumped another exclusive into general retail release. Either way, $30 is too much for this figure, even if it looks great.

That's about how I feel about Netflix Bee. Great figure, definitely some "premium" things about it (like the alt mode deco), but it still doesn't quite feel worth the full $20. Though, to be fair, Walmart doesn't charge the full $20 for deluxes anyway.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?

He's cheap, he's overly animation accurate, his ankles are either fused or break when trying to pose him, he's noticeably lighter than other deluxes, and he's flat, nothing interesting to look at in hand.

Huh, I don't feel that way at all. He's so cool here he is with Gigawatt jumping back in time to find some real music...

And here he is with Earthrise looking like he fits right in...


I could be a little biased because my only other Jazz is PotP, but I freaking love this guy.

aronjlove wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm glad I have heard a lot about the SS86 toys, I decided to not get Jazz after hearing a lot about him, and while I was starting to think about Hot Rod and Scourge, others like you guys helped talk me down.

I'll be looking forward to a summertime Dino

What have you heard about Jazz that convinced you not to get him?

He's cheap, he's overly animation accurate, his ankles are either fused or break when trying to pose him, he's noticeably lighter than other deluxes, and he's flat, nothing interesting to look at in hand.

Huh, I don't feel that way at all. He's so cool here he is with Gigawatt jumping back in time to find some real music...

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And here he is with Earthrise looking like he fits right in...

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I could be a little biased because my only other Jazz is PotP, but I freaking love this guy.

Interesting. I hadn't heard about the ankles, hopefully they're a limited issue.

aronjlove, would you be kind enough to weigh Jazz? These conflicting opinions have me curious.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Let's settle the debate on whether Jazz is lighter than the rest right here, and possibly start or further along some other weight debates.

Here are the weights of all the SS86 and Kingdom wave 1 figures I have. All weights in grams. All figures were weighed with their weapons (but Hot Rod without the matrix or saw).

SS86 Jazz - 72
SS86 Kup - 69
SS86 Blurr - 76
SS86 Hot Rod - 79 (definitely not worth $30)
SS86 Scourge - 139
Kingdom Warpath - 74
Kingdom Cheetor - 60
Kingdom Paleotrex - 53
Kingdom Black Arachnia - 37 (yes you read that correctly)
Kingdom Optimus Primal - 131
Kingdom Cyclonus - 149
Kingdom Megatron - 333

I got 73g for Jazz but it's close enough. And for comparison, ER Bluestreak was 72g and Netflix Wheeljack was 79g.

Thanks kev, I think even with the matrix and saw he would be only 80 grams or so. Definitely lighter than Scourge, so about $25 would have been appropriate. So basically if you bought Hot Rod at full price you paid $5 for extra bubble and cardboard. I mean, it's a nice box, but not that nice. And yes, I know I bought him of my own volition without anyone forcing me. I just didn't think it would be thus bad, even with reviews.

As for Blackarachnia, same thing. I own her as well, and it's a great figure, but if she was in spider mode with her legs folded under, she would most likely have fit into a core class bubble. Once I open both her and Rattrap, I'll test it out. Unless someone else has them handy. I wonder if Kingdom Rattrap is lighter.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Thanks kev, I think even with the matrix and saw he would be only 80 grams or so. Definitely lighter than Scourge, so about $25 would have been appropriate. So basically if you bought Hot Rod at full price you paid $5 for extra bubble and cardboard. I mean, it's a nice box, but not that nice. And yes, I know I bought him of my own volition without anyone forcing me. I just didn't think it would be thus bad, even with reviews.

As for Blackarachnia, same thing. I own her as well, and it's a great figure, but if she was in spider mode with her legs folded under, she would most likely have fit into a core class bubble. Once I open both her and Rattrap, I'll test it out. Unless someone else has them handy. I wonder if Kingdom Rattrap is lighter.

Kingdom Rattrap is 23.3g with his gun.

Kingdom Core-class Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Spike are a combined 29 grams...