Official Images Titans Returns Astrotrain and Ravage
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Re: Official Images Titans Returns Astrotrain and Ravage
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Comment by OptimalOptimus2
Mar 20, 2016
Ravage is a cell phone! A new Hotline Bling joke for my thread.
Now Astrotrain needs some paint. He's naked, Takara cover him up!
Now Astrotrain needs some paint. He's naked, Takara cover him up!

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Comment by Cobotron
Mar 20, 2016
I love how Primey that little Titan Master's head sculpt is.
Re: Official Images Titans Returns Astrotrain and Ravage
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You should read his post more carefully:
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Mar 20, 2016
Autobot N wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).
The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.
I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:
Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.
You should read his post more carefully:
Hellscream9999 wrote:[...], while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head. [...]
Re: Official Images Titans Returns Astrotrain and Ravage
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Two points:
1: That comment was in response to D-max, who (you actually quoted this line) said that Ravage was a straight repaint.
2: I'm pretty sure that the edit to the news post was made after I posted that comment.
Comment by Autobot N
Mar 20, 2016
Lunatic Prime wrote:Autobot N wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).
The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.
I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:
Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.Hellscream9999 wrote:[...], while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head. [...]
Two points:
1: That comment was in response to D-max, who (you actually quoted this line) said that Ravage was a straight repaint.
2: I'm pretty sure that the edit to the news post was made after I posted that comment.
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Yes, due to many technical difficulties, my post that had that info got devoured, and I had to rewrite parts of it. And I still maintain that Darkmoon is a repaint
Comment by Hellscream9999
Mar 20, 2016
Autobot N wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Autobot N wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Autobot N wrote:Might wanna fix the news post, as it says that Darkmoon is a straight repaint of Infinitus, and that Ravage is a straight repaint of Stripes (he has a new head, kinda like how the official images got Rumble's Frenzy's head wrong).
The robot mode of Darkmoon is a straight Sentinel repaint, and Ravage is shown here to be a straight repaint of Stripes, head and all.
I'm talking about Astrotrain's face. That's certainly new tooling.
Also:
Look at this and tell me Ravage doesn't have a new head.Hellscream9999 wrote:[...], while Ravage is an all black retool of Legends class Stripes. It is important to note, that the render shows Ravage as repaint of Stripes, the prototype shown at the toyfair has a new head. [...]
Two points:
1: That comment was in response to D-max, who (you actually quoted this line) said that Ravage was a straight repaint.
2: I'm pretty sure that the edit to the news post was made after I posted that comment.
Yes, due to many technical difficulties, my post that had that info got devoured, and I had to rewrite parts of it. And I still maintain that Darkmoon is a repaint

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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Mar 20, 2016
I didn't realize that Ravage had a different head between the official image and the toy fair image, so sorry about that. and Yes the news post was edited during these conversations. And ok, the headmaster was retooled, but the actual large robot face was the part retooled, the headmaster robot mode was not retooled 

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Comment by Microraptor
Mar 20, 2016
Can it be? A rendering in an honest-to-goodness COOL pose? What is this madness?
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Gotcha.
Fair enough, but I thought I would point it out for those that don't share your opinion.
All is well, just wanted to point that out.
Comment by Autobot N
Mar 20, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:Yes, due to many technical difficulties, my post that had that info got devoured, and I had to rewrite parts of it.
Gotcha.

Hellscream9999 wrote:And I still maintain that Darkmoon is a repaint
Fair enough, but I thought I would point it out for those that don't share your opinion.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I didn't realize that Ravage had a different head between the official image and the toy fair image, so sorry about that. and Yes the news post was edited during these conversations. And ok, the headmaster was retooled, but the actual large robot face was the part retooled, the headmaster robot mode was not retooled
All is well, just wanted to point that out.
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Comment by RAR
Mar 20, 2016
I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.
Ravage is OK I guess - the addition of a set of 3rd party rockets will help a lot I guess.
Ultimately I don't have many issues with the design of the Titans Return toys - I do remain wary of the likely high pricing though.
As it stands I'm almost back to being like it was in the Galaxy Force Period - in that it's not worth me buying the Western toys when the Japanese ones cost the same sort of money and have a lot more paint on them or other reasons to prioritise them (like unique accessories in the case of the Headmasters).
Oh and sorry Hasbro but I've decided I don't care what you call them I'm going to call them Headmasters regardless - unless the cartoon persuades me otherwise. If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck - it's a duck.
I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.
Ravage is OK I guess - the addition of a set of 3rd party rockets will help a lot I guess.
Ultimately I don't have many issues with the design of the Titans Return toys - I do remain wary of the likely high pricing though.
As it stands I'm almost back to being like it was in the Galaxy Force Period - in that it's not worth me buying the Western toys when the Japanese ones cost the same sort of money and have a lot more paint on them or other reasons to prioritise them (like unique accessories in the case of the Headmasters).
Oh and sorry Hasbro but I've decided I don't care what you call them I'm going to call them Headmasters regardless - unless the cartoon persuades me otherwise. If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck - it's a duck.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Mar 20, 2016
Rar, the unique accessories you get with the takara stuff you can buy on their own with the right titanmaster to go with it (call them what you want but ill stick to the official name thanks) as it stands, crash bash will likely look a bit weird from takara as it doesn't come with the titan master which properly forms his lower jaws
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Yes, the need to have the headmaster sit in a compartment completely ruins the train mode and the proportions it was goin' for (just look at those tiny doors and walkways - that is an astrotrain that can carry devs
)
Comment by Hellscream9999
Mar 20, 2016
RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.
Yes, the need to have the headmaster sit in a compartment completely ruins the train mode and the proportions it was goin' for (just look at those tiny doors and walkways - that is an astrotrain that can carry devs

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And they have different headsculpts.
I'll stick with the
releases this time because I don't like the Takara headsculpts and I want the seperate Titanmasters.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Mar 20, 2016
It's the Titanmaster's cockpit so there's not much they could have changed.RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
You don't get unique accessories. Just bundles with Titanmaster vehicles without their Titanmasters which makes them kinda incomplete like ZeroWolf already said.RAR wrote:As it stands I'm almost back to being like it was in the Galaxy Force Period - in that it's not worth me buying the Western toys when the Japanese ones cost the same sort of money and have a lot more paint on them or other reasons to prioritise them (like unique accessories in the case of the Headmasters).
And they have different headsculpts.
I'll stick with the

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They could have not included it, I don't think there's any figure that looks better with the cockpit
Comment by Hellscream9999
Mar 20, 2016
Lunatic Prime wrote:It's the Titanmaster's cockpit so there's not much they could have changed.RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
They could have not included it, I don't think there's any figure that looks better with the cockpit

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What are "devs"?
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Mar 20, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.
Yes, the need to have the headmaster sit in a compartment completely ruins the train mode and the proportions it was goin' for (just look at those tiny doors and walkways - that is an astrotrain that can carry devs)
What are "devs"?

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Devs, the generally accepted shorthand for devastator, referencing the '86 movie where he's chillin' all up in Astrotrain, because, screw physics, or something
Comment by Hellscream9999
Mar 20, 2016
Lunatic Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
I like the robot mode very much the Shuttle mode isn't fantastic but gains a few brownie points for having a resemblance to a pre-existing vintage Takara Brave toy I guess.
Yes, the need to have the headmaster sit in a compartment completely ruins the train mode and the proportions it was goin' for (just look at those tiny doors and walkways - that is an astrotrain that can carry devs)
What are "devs"?
Devs, the generally accepted shorthand for devastator, referencing the '86 movie where he's chillin' all up in Astrotrain, because, screw physics, or something

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And where would you put the Titanmasters?
And another thing: I can't see much or any more paint apps on the Takara versions.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Mar 20, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:It's the Titanmaster's cockpit so there's not much they could have changed.RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
They could have not included it, I don't think there's any figure that looks better with the cockpit
And where would you put the Titanmasters?
And another thing: I can't see much or any more paint apps on the Takara versions.
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Dunno, like guns (since few attachment points look any good) or the hfg from the cw line, you could just put them aside. Not ideal, but a feasible answer.
Comment by Hellscream9999
Mar 20, 2016
Lunatic Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:It's the Titanmaster's cockpit so there's not much they could have changed.RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
They could have not included it, I don't think there's any figure that looks better with the cockpit
And where would you put the Titanmasters?
And another thing: I can't see much or any more paint apps on the Takara versions.
Dunno, like guns (since few attachment points look any good) or the hfg from the cw line, you could just put them aside. Not ideal, but a feasible answer.
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So when they change modes the Titanmasters appear from nowhere and disappear into nowhere?!
I like it a bit more realistic. And please no comparissons now what else isn't realistic in the Transformers universe.
And you can store the HFGs in the vehicle modes.
Comment by Lunatic Prime
Mar 20, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:It's the Titanmaster's cockpit so there's not much they could have changed.RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
They could have not included it, I don't think there's any figure that looks better with the cockpit
And where would you put the Titanmasters?
And another thing: I can't see much or any more paint apps on the Takara versions.
Dunno, like guns (since few attachment points look any good) or the hfg from the cw line, you could just put them aside. Not ideal, but a feasible answer.
So when they change modes the Titanmasters appear from nowhere and disappear into nowhere?!

I like it a bit more realistic. And please no comparissons now what else isn't realistic in the Transformers universe.

And you can store the HFGs in the vehicle modes.

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Comment by Stuartmaximus
Mar 20, 2016
i still find it stupid as to why Ravage turns into a bird!
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Only some of them can look good while doing so. I'm just saying the full on compartment look kinda ruins a lot fo the figures, I mean, look at how megs stands on galvatrons cannon mode, they could've done something akin to that. I dunno man, my problem is that it just really ruins the train look, and that saddens me
Comment by Hellscream9999
Mar 20, 2016
Lunatic Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:It's the Titanmaster's cockpit so there's not much they could have changed.RAR wrote:I wish they'd found way to flatten the train mode more in the middle the large tower in the middle is a bit odd looking to me.
They could have not included it, I don't think there's any figure that looks better with the cockpit
And where would you put the Titanmasters?
And another thing: I can't see much or any more paint apps on the Takara versions.
Dunno, like guns (since few attachment points look any good) or the hfg from the cw line, you could just put them aside. Not ideal, but a feasible answer.
So when they change modes the Titanmasters appear from nowhere and disappear into nowhere?!![]()
I like it a bit more realistic. And please no comparissons now what else isn't realistic in the Transformers universe.
And you can store the HFGs in the vehicle modes.
Only some of them can look good while doing so. I'm just saying the full on compartment look kinda ruins a lot fo the figures, I mean, look at how megs stands on galvatrons cannon mode, they could've done something akin to that. I dunno man, my problem is that it just really ruins the train look, and that saddens me
