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Posted by ScottyP on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:47pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Seems completely on-brand for Kirkman's comics in general, though.
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 6th, 2023 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 6th, 2023 @ 3:23pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
They referenced it in issue 1.
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:11pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Wow, they're referencing the Matrix already. That's got to be some kind of record.
So I guess this means this story takes place post 1999
Posted by snavej on October 7th, 2023 @ 3:32am CDT
Anyway, Cliffy has the glass gas, which means that some Decepticons are gonna get shattered soon.
By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 7th, 2023 @ 5:40pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
I can’t help but disagree. Look at the following page, Optimus is clearly suddenly overwhelmed by the weight of the war, his inability to save his own men, his home world. He’s only been online on Earth for probably no more than a couple days. The deer stepping, while admittedly gruesome (let’s not forget who’s in control of this series) serves as a really poignant moment of despair and Optimus’ feelings of despair and helplessness at the situation laid before him. So much is out of his control, or worse, so much is his fault.
Also… He hasn’t been a Prime that long, given what we know about the timeframe of the war. He must be so overwhelmed. This to me, serves as some EXCELLENT character building, and without a single spoken word or marvel-movie quip. It’s one of those things you have to take behind face value.
Can’t wait for issue 2!!!
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 7th, 2023 @ 5:42pm CDT
snavej wrote:By the way, no one show OP the movie 'Bambi', OK?!
Do you want to shatter the poor guy even more?!
Posted by Randomhero on October 8th, 2023 @ 12:13am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Lol okay dude. I’m sure you’ll be here every month to find something to complain about
Posted by TulioDude on October 8th, 2023 @ 8:17pm CDT
Posted by JazZeke on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:35am CDT
The most interesting element is the humans, actually. Sparkplug is a Vietnam vet with PTSD and a strained relationship with Spike, who's basically acting like the parental figure in the relationship. And he dreams of becoming an astronaut.
I do have a... TON of nitpicks though. Art is okay. At this point though I'm starting to resent the Sunbow animation model designs. I feel like they're starting to hold the overall brand back at this point. I'd rather have robots that actually look like they can turn into stuff. Apparently Optimus' trailer is now a TARDIS capable of fitting all the other Autobots inside it. And they all come back online speaking English immediately, no accounting for a language barrier, which is a sci fi pet peeve of mine.
Bumblebee is snuffed out unceremoniously before he even comes online. And while I do believe said character is overexposed, it just feels like a mean-spirited way of doing it. Not "edgelord," but pushing the envelop. At least in Prime when Cliffjumper was brought in just to be killed off, he got a moment to be established for audiences to connect to and feel the weight of his death.
I'd rate it a 5/10.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 13th, 2023 @ 8:28pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 14th, 2023 @ 10:40am CDT
Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
Posted by sol magnus on October 14th, 2023 @ 7:55pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
Posted by JazZeke on October 15th, 2023 @ 1:03am CDT
sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the comics aren't aimed at children AFAIK and the character has been way overused in the last 15 years anyway. It was alright for the 1st 5 years, but then it got repetitious and annoying.TulioDude wrote:Even they didn't want to use Bumblebee, they could just not have him appear in the story, feels to unnecessary for me.
I don't think too many people are upset with what happened so much as the WAY it happened.
Yep.
Posted by SkyFire Prime on October 15th, 2023 @ 5:00am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Dude your reaction is not connected to reality, I listened to you on the podcast and I rushed to see what was so deranged....
"Optimus taking a moment to appreciate nature, accidently stepping on a deer (as we might accidently step on an ant) but then feeling remorse and triggering PTSD flashback of violence on Cybertron"
This is actually a tender moment where get to see that this Prime appreciates all life, even more so than us. Because that deer amounts to an ant for him.
I might add, did you criticize Micheal Bay when Prime was stealing faces?, now there's a basement that needs checking!
Posted by JazZeke on October 15th, 2023 @ 5:04am CDT
SkyFire Prime wrote:ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Dude your reaction is not connected to reality, I listened to you on the podcast and I rushed to see what was so deranged....
"Optimus taking a moment to appreciate nature, accidently stepping on a deer (as we might accidently step on an ant) but then feeling remorse and triggering PTSD flashback of violence on Cybertron"
This is actually a tender moment where get to see that this Prime appreciates all life, even more so than us. Because that deer amounts to an ant for him.
I might add, did you criticize Micheal Bay when Prime was stealing faces?, now there's a basement that needs checking!
It kinda hearkens back to The Iron Giant, IMO
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 15th, 2023 @ 7:44pm CDT
I also really liked the writing. It was a good pace, and it accomplished a lot in those pages. It moved without feeling like it was speeding.
I liked the characterizations too. Love Prime so far, it feels like a welcome change of pace for the character. Starscream is cranky and deranged, and I like it in this case. Soundwave caring for a wounded Ravage was a nice touch, glad they are continuing that kind of relationship with Soundwave and his cassettes.
The human cast also seems good so far, I like Carly and Spike, and I feel like we are going to get a unique sparkplug story here I am interested to see.
Overall, very strong start. I guess I will check out this continuity as we go for now. They got me hooked, now let's see what else we got.
Posted by ScottyP on October 16th, 2023 @ 6:09pm CDT
I found your post in the episode thread entirely fair. This is too, but ouch. This one hurt.SkyFire Prime wrote:ScottyP wrote:Optimus stepping on a deer is so entirely unnecessary. Someone needs to check this writer's basement, that's some deranged, twistedly cruel stuff to put on a page. Might not be sticking around for much of this series!
Dude your reaction is not connected to reality
Gonna take a hiatus from this thread. Good or bad, you won't be hearing from me about it.
Posted by sol magnus on October 16th, 2023 @ 6:22pm CDT
A quick review!
Posted by snavej on November 10th, 2023 @ 6:31am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 10th, 2023 @ 6:41am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 11th, 2023 @ 8:18am CST
Much like the preview for Issue #2, no dialogue is present for this early 3 page preview.
Check out the preview below, and let us know what you think in the comments below!
Today Skybound, in collaboration with leading toy and game company Hasbro, revealed an impressive lineup of variant covers and a first look at interior pages of Daniel Warren Johnson’s TRANSFORMERS #3. The third issue of the smash hit series, TRANSFORMERS, will be available on shelves in comic book shops December 13, 2023.
TRANSFORMERS #3 continues the Energon Universe and the all-new era of the iconic TRANSFORMERS franchise from Daniel Warren Johnson (Extremity, Do a Powerbomb) and colorist Mike Spicer (Stillwater, Murder Falcon). Outnumbered and overpowered, it’s time for the Autobots to stand their ground, as Optimus Prime goes toe-to-toe with Skywarp!
In addition to the main cover by Daniel Warren Johnson and Mike Spicer, the stacked list of variant covers for TRANSFORMERS #3 includes a cover by Taurin Clarke (Black Panther), a 1:10 incentive variant continuing the connecting cover series by Orlando Arocena (Mighty Morphin Power Rangers), a 1:25 incentive variant by Matias Bergara (Coda), and a 1:50 incentive variant by Nick Dragotta (Creepshow).
The Energon Universe officially began in June 2023 with the surprise first appearance of iconic TRANSFORMERS character Jetfire in Void Rivals #1, introducing the historic new collaboration between Hasbro and Skybound, with TRANSFORMERS and G.I. JOE comics finding a new home with the publisher.
The Energon Universe expands in December with Duke #1, a limited series from Joshua Williamson (DC’s Superman, Dark Ride), Tom Reilly (The Thing) and Jordie Bellaire (W0rldtr33). This will be followed by the launch of Cobra Commander #1 in January 2024, from Joshua Williamson, Andrea Milana (Impact Winter: Rook) and Annalisa Leoni (Oblivion Song). Fans should expect can’t-miss moments from every issue of the Energon Universe, as secrets are unveiled along the path to answering the BIG questions, including #WhereIsMegatron.
TRANSFORMERS #3 (Lunar Codes Below | $3.99) will be available at comic book shops and digital platforms including Amazon Kindle, Apple Books, comiXology, and Google Play on Wednesday, December 13, 2023.
The full list of variant covers is below:
TRANSFORMERS #3 Cover A by Daniel Warren Johnson & Mike Spicer (1023IM385)
TRANSFORMERS #3 Cover B by Taurin Clarke (1023IM386)
TRANSFORMERS #3 Cover C (1:10 Copy Incentive) by Orlando Arocena (1023IM387)
TRANSFORMERS #3 Cover D (1:25 Copy Incentive) by Matias Bergara (1023IM388)
TRANSFORMERS #3 Cover E (1:50 Copy Incentive) by Nick Dragotta (1023IM389)
Posted by Big Grim on November 13th, 2023 @ 5:56am CST
~ Grim
Posted by snavej on November 13th, 2023 @ 6:11am CST
Perhaps they're not sure how the weapons will work on Earth? Cliffjumper certainly doesn't want to hurt the humans.
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on November 13th, 2023 @ 11:15pm CST
Posted by snavej on November 14th, 2023 @ 5:59am CST
Stormshot_Prime wrote:So much carnage and killing, and we’re just getting started! Kinda scared for Megatron to show up, if Starscream is this vicious.
This is realistic. In order to defeat the mighty Autobots (and almost anyone else), the Decepticons have to be hard-hitting and relentless. As a general rule, if they don't achieve multiple casualties per trooper per day, they won't beat the Autobots.
Posted by partholon on November 15th, 2023 @ 9:15am CST
amazing what ya can achieve when your not walking up and down stairs all the fecking time.
im not a mad fan of the artstyle but theres been worse in the francise and the derpy look of the bot modes is more than offset by the technical stuff on the vehicle modes/enviroments. especially on the dynamism front. theres some real nice feelings of mass and motion.
the books FEELS like a proper reboot too. ive seen some complaining about prime killing bambi but that whole scene was a shorthand route to showing his character. if your a normie buying this odds are your only view on prime is the movies where hes a fkn psychopath.
so the secnes in issue two showing him giving a toss is welcomed, especially when it contrasts with PROPER decepticons not giving a flying fig about killing the squishes themselves. a nice return to "good " and "evil" .
in fact so far the whole series reminds me of the VERY early days of G1 in the UK comcic.
dinobot hunt/ crisis of command level where the much smaller cast made more compelling stories. the colouring even in issue two took me back to the aul gina hart days, not QUITE as good, but in that direction.
its can still go aresways,but right now im glad i came back to the book. its nice to see the characters ACT like who they are again. i'll give warren johnson that. he knows these bots and cons.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2023 @ 7:51pm CST
Posted by Halfofme07 on December 5th, 2023 @ 9:29am CST
Posted by wyokid on December 8th, 2023 @ 6:40pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 18th, 2023 @ 7:15pm CST
They are COOKING with this book. It has well and truly surprised me with how good it is, This is a great team to handle Transformers right now. Great stuff.
Prime is a heroic dad trying his best, Cliffjumper wants to be helpful and open minded, Ratchet the responsible adult, starscream a grumpy scary dude, Skywarp just chilling, and so much more. It's just great!
Some of my favorite panels from the newest issue, just showing how good they are cooking:
And the best one:
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 12th, 2024 @ 10:05am CST
It's also refreshing to have an Optimus that is both fierce and gentle.
Very interested in what's to come with his new arm
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 12th, 2024 @ 10:11am CST
Posted by Big Grim on January 15th, 2024 @ 5:40am CST
~ GRim
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 16th, 2024 @ 9:43am CST
Big Grim wrote:I'm seriously enjoying the series thus far but is it just me or are they a little cavalier with characters? Tearing Skywary apart seemed...excessive when they have other cybertronians available all around them that are NOT active.
~ GRim
My thoughts on that were that Skywarp was pretty badly injured as opposed to just offline, so repairing him would have been more challenging. Also, could be that they needed running Cybertronian parts.
That said, they're certainly being a little cavalier. We're four issues in and Bumblebee, Jetfire, and Skywarp seem to be properly dead.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 19th, 2024 @ 8:39am CST
Very interesting introduction to Megatron. It looked like a 2007 movie dynamic with Megatron being used for research/technology development, and then they hit us with the surprise Animated dynamic by revealing that he is awake and plotting.
Very interested to see how they pull off this shared Universe. Will Megatron's eventual introduction to the Transformers run make Cobra Commander required reading, or will they find a way to work him in seamlessly? This has always been my hesitation with shared universes, its hard to get the benefits of them without the drawbacks of required reading and a confusing reading order.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 19th, 2024 @ 2:19pm CST
Autobots:
Active
Optimus Prime
Ratchet
Cliffjumper
Inactive but alive
Jazz
Wheeljack
Ironhide
Prowl
Brawn
Confirmed dead
Bumblebee
Jetfire
Decepticons:
Active
Starscream
Soundwave
Laserbeak
Rumble
Ravage
Thundercracker
Shockwave (See Void Rivals #4)
Megatron (See Cobra Commander #1)
Inactive but alive
Reflector
Confirmed dead
Skywarp
Posted by snavej on January 30th, 2024 @ 8:56am CST
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 30th, 2024 @ 9:05am CST
snavej wrote:If Starscream has taken parts from Skywarp and used them in his own body or someone else, will the recipients get some of Skywarp's power I wonder? They might get functional teleportation or a nasty case of malfunction involving random teleportation / disappearance / explosion.
That's a very interesting idea. It does seem intentional that the writers chose to use a Decepticon with a very unique power set for parts.
Posted by snavej on February 1st, 2024 @ 6:03am CST
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:snavej wrote:If Starscream has taken parts from Skywarp and used them in his own body or someone else, will the recipients get some of Skywarp's power I wonder? They might get functional teleportation or a nasty case of malfunction involving random teleportation / disappearance / explosion.
That's a very interesting idea. It does seem intentional that the writers chose to use a Decepticon with a very unique power set for parts.
Furthermore, since Optimus now has Megatron's right arm and cannon, what will that do to Optimus' powers, mind, philosophy, priorities, plans, ambitions, etc.? We don't know what the arm can do. Since it is now in full use, it might start transmitting messages, especially to Megatron himself.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on February 1st, 2024 @ 8:07am CST
snavej wrote:Furthermore, since Optimus now has Megatron's right arm and cannon, what will that do to Optimus' powers, mind, philosophy, priorities, plans, ambitions, etc.? We don't know what the arm can do. Since it is now in full use, it might start transmitting messages, especially to Megatron himself.
I'm very curious how this might affect the Optimus-Megatron dynamic. In fact, I'm very curious about how this Megatron will be portrayed. This series has had such strong characterizations for Optimus and Starscream already, I wonder what direction they'll take Megatron in.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 1st, 2024 @ 7:53pm CST
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:snavej wrote:Furthermore, since Optimus now has Megatron's right arm and cannon, what will that do to Optimus' powers, mind, philosophy, priorities, plans, ambitions, etc.? We don't know what the arm can do. Since it is now in full use, it might start transmitting messages, especially to Megatron himself.
I'm very curious how this might affect the Optimus-Megatron dynamic. In fact, I'm very curious about how this Megatron will be portrayed. This series has had such strong characterizations for Optimus and Starscream already, I wonder what direction they'll take Megatron in.
I'm very curious to see as well. If he sees Optimus with his arm grafted to him, I will eagerly await his response to that
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on February 15th, 2024 @ 11:23am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 15th, 2024 @ 6:38pm CST
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:It seems that the digital release of Issue #5 has been delayed to next week, February 21. The physical copy still released yesterday.
I'm eagerly awaiting my physical copy to arrive!
Posted by snavej on February 16th, 2024 @ 6:52am CST
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on February 21st, 2024 @ 8:40am CST
Prime's confrontation with Starscream was great. I love this Prime's level of trash talk, it reminds me of Animated/UT Prime and Beast Era Primal.
Its also cool to see Arcee and Ratchet have a close relationship like in Animated.
Still very curious to see how Megatron eventually gets added to the mix from Cobra Commander. It seems clear that that's what this is building towards.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on February 21st, 2024 @ 11:59am CST
Posted by Big Grim on February 22nd, 2024 @ 7:19am CST
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Just read Cobra Commander #2. I wonder if Cobra Commander's escort is a reprogrammed Cybertronian? He refers to Energon by name and they're clearly hiding his identity.
I assumed it was Nemesis Enforcer made to look human. Pythona refers to him as "Old Friend" if I remember correctly.
~ Grim