Studio Series 86 Leader Swoop Found at US Targets

The minions obtained mine - it's been nice to see all five of them on the shelf as I prepare the review!

Now that my Walmart has done their reset and removed all leader class toys, I guess target is the only place to find them now.

Well, I think I am about to eat my hat.

Caught up on the Skybound comics, and I think I am now going to need SS86 Magnus. And of course he is nowhere to be seen anymore. And of course of course, I would prefer a yellow eyed version, but no luck on a leak there yet.

And I am starting to question if I am going to need to get the SS86 Constructicons.

I had to order Legacy Elita-1 so I would have a properly scaled Elita.

Almost ordered SS86 Arcee, but I am still happy with my T30 one, and neither Earthrise nor SS86 really look better/more comic accurate than her.

I am now torn on SS86 Prime too, cause he is more accurate to the comic, but I also think that, given how iconic the "Let's go on the offensive" Prime with Megatron arm now is, they would hopefully make either a version like this, or give SS86 Megatron the ability to donate an arm and Optimus to use it. Also, I will get the dramatic capture Prime that I could use, but again, accuracy/arm reuse.

smyths in Ireland have swoop up on their website as due to be out between the 22 and the 29th of August.

now sometimes a character pops up and it NEVER gets released but seeing as Snarl has just been reduced to €50 euro i think its fair bolted on that were getting him in the shops soon.

partholon wrote:smyths in Ireland have swoop up on their website as due to be out between the 22 and the 29th of August.

now sometimes a character pops up and it NEVER gets released but seeing as Snarl has just been reduced to €50 euro i think its fair bolted on that were getting him in the shops soon.

Holy ballz, that "reduced" price is the full price of a leader in Canada and USA. For how much a leader sell normally in Europe?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

partholon wrote:smyths in Ireland have swoop up on their website as due to be out between the 22 and the 29th of August.

now sometimes a character pops up and it NEVER gets released but seeing as Snarl has just been reduced to €50 euro i think its fair bolted on that were getting him in the shops soon.

Holy ballz, that "reduced" price is the full price of a leader in Canada and USA. For how much a leader sell normally in Europe?

€65.99.

if ya wait a bit they usually drop the price. sandstorm for instance is €49.99 now and Blitzwing is €27.99 though the latter is fairly rare to go that low.

Nemisis dropped to €150 from €209 IIRC for the titan class.

I Dropped in today to have a look and theyve tidied up the shelve big time so i reckon the new stocks coming in this weekend.

Europe get 5he short end of the stick for prices...

Still, if you don't have Blitzwing yet, that's a good price. He's better in hand than expected.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Europe get 5he short end of the stick for prices...

Still, if you don't have Blitzwing yet, that's a good price. He's better in hand than expected.

EU prices are insane. Why we don't complain.

i think theres a correlation between the price and what it costs to import it from the states

postage and tax are a right bastard. i had to fork out 83 euro to get a leader class slag recently, 34 quid of which was those charges.

on topic Smyths have updated their page to say SWOOP is now going on sale between the 5th and 12th of SEPT now.

TBH though it could turn up at anytime. i was in the jervis branch in dublin yesterday and theyre clearing out the shelves for new stock. i cant imagine they want to leave all that shelve space empty for long.

It seems that the CC Optimus's toes are misassembled.

Will it be just the first batch, or will the whole production run be like this?

Anybody hearing anything about miss-assembly issues on Commander class Optimus Prime?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hearing anything about miss-assembly issues on Commander class Optimus Prime?

Yes, in the post immediately above yours.

Emerje

Thanks to a video, we now know that the early copies of Transformers Studio Series 86 Commander Class Optimus Prime have assembly issues. The heels are missassembled. The right and left heels have been switched and flipped upside down. You can see how it should look like compared to how it ends up looking like in the video below. The fact that both assembly methods result in the same symmetry makes it easy to see how this mistake came upon in the assembly. It is unknown how many copies have been affected with this missassembly.

Pat Lee Optimus taillights strike again!

Correction heals right?

SkyFire Prime wrote:Correction heals right?

Yes, heels

I watched the video twice and even a fix video, and I still don't know what the issue is or which way is right.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I watched the video twice and even a fix video, and I still don't know what the issue is or which way is right.

The right way is to have the blue outline be at the top of the heels, not below them.

william-james88 wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Correction heals right?

Yes, heels

You wrote both heels and toes in the article. I blame Kanra.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Correction heals right?

Yes, heels

You wrote both heels and toes in the article. I blame Kanra.

Emerje

That's confusing because since the G1 toy, most G1 style Optimusses have the rear lights as toes, not as heel. It's the opposite on the cartoon model and on the SS86.

We need a technopodiatrist.....

Switching topics ofr a bit, looking ahead to next years SS86 Constructicons. We wont see anything for a while, but we do know they are 2 deluxe for the arms, 2 voyager for the legs, and a CC Set for Long Haul & Hook.

Now , it doesn't take a 12th level intellect to deduce, they will likely be released later in a Gift set at some point. However, I didn't jump at the Legacy Stunticons Gift set (as pretty as it was) because I didn't think the toy deco was enough of a difference to buy them all over again. I am getting the G2 Legacy versions, because they are being released slowly over time.

At any rate however... I thought about something rather cool that TT did with MPG Raiden. They had an option to purchase the last member Kaen as an individual, or in a Gift set that contained spaces for the other 5 Trainbots, so you could have all 6 in their original packaging, in the box with all the extras!. Despite the toys themselves being a rather mixed bag, I thought the concept was neat...


Now, I seriously doubt Hasbro would do this but...what if, they released the CC offering (Long Haul and Hook) in an oversize giftset-style box, with spaces for the other 4 constructicons? I think it would be really cool, perhaps as a pulse exclusive or something? I realize retail shelf space is tough especially now. I'm shocked my daughter actually saw Magmatron at Target once! (of course she was the same one that found Motormaster, also only on one occasion, at that same Target 2 years ago) .

But instead of some fans/collectors feeling taken advantage of, once the inevitable Gift-Set is revealed, I think the partial-giftset idea is a nice compromise, and shows more goodwill towards the collectors.

No freaking way would put a toy in an overly oversized box just to accomodate the others.

Retailers are picky enough as they are for the titan boxes and even the regular commander boxes may be too big, several retailer refusing to carry them due to shelf space concerns.

Still, I would see or a 3P making a giant-ass box that would be a direct nod to the G1 original gift set. They could sell the box as-is, maybe containing quality sticker sheets to give the Constructicons their G1 toy deco.





Just imagine how huge such a box would be!

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just imagine how huge such a box would be!

It would be smaller than the SS69 (RotF) Devastator Box, probably smaller than the MPG Raiden one as well. Probably similar in size to the Pulse Exclusive Legacy Menasor set. The OG Box formatting wouldn't work because those 6 were roughly the same size, but now you have 2 of the 6 members at 3 different sizes

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just imagine how huge such a box would be!

It would be smaller than the SS69 (RotF) Devastator Box, probably smaller than the MPG Raiden one as well. Probably similar in size to the Pulse Exclusive Legacy Menasor set. The OG Box formatting wouldn't work because those 6 were roughly the same size, but now you have 2 of the 6 members at 3 different sizes

The SS69 box was stupidly huge, but I think a SS86 Devastator box would be the same size if they keep the G1 layout. Also, the "formatting" as you say won't be the same, but similar enough. Beside, there's plenty of space in that design to accomodate vehicles of various sizes.

I don't see Hastak doing any sort of special packaging for the Constructicons; while anything is possible, that's super niche... The vast majority of people who want those figures aren't buying them to display in the box, no matter how retro or cool it looks.
Hell, I'm most likely buying a second set, but it's to have those six figures individually in bot modes, and in a diorama.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Hell, I'm most likely buying a second set, but it's to have those six figures individually in bot modes, and in a diorama.

Why not go all the way and buy 3 sets to display the bots, vehicles, and the combined robot all at once?

Still, that would kinda be a waste because you'll then never transform them ever again after that.

Hasbro says they have no plans to make a Devastator box set, but how many times have we heard that before.

Thing is, it's unlikely that a box set would be SS86, it would more likely be in toy colors.

On that note, it's a little weird that Hasbro didn't do their own version of Encore 20A, maybe Walmart didn't want to do him again.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Hasbro says they have no plans to make a Devastator box set, but how many times have we heard that before.

Thing is, it's unlikely that a box set would be SS86, it would more likely be in toy colors.

On that note, it's a little weird that Hasbro didn't do their own version of Encore 20A, maybe Walmart didn't want to do him again.

Emerje

I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

Yeah, to me it would be strange if they did box sets like that, the SS86 Autobot set, the SS '07 movie Autobot and Decepticon sets and the Legacy Evolution Stunticon set, but not an 86 Constructicon set that's only $20 more but has six figures instead of five? I have strong doubts about that one.

Emerje

SS86 Leader class SWOOP is up for home delivery off Smyths website in Ireland now .

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toy ... e/p/233785

which leads me to believe the lad himself will make an appearance on the shelves in brick and mortar stores on the 5th like they mooted .

so thats 2 days time from posting.

its gotta be the same in the UK for you lads so heres a chance to get him and finish the set at last.

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

Yeah, to me it would be strange if they did box sets like that, the SS86 Autobot set, the SS '07 movie Autobot and Decepticon sets and the Legacy Evolution Stunticon set, but not an 86 Constructicon set that's only $20 more but has six figures instead of five? I have strong doubts about that one.

Emerje

A few of those sets you listed cost anywhere from $110-$150...
If Hastak makes a gift set of the SS86 Constructicons, that's 2 deluxes ($50), 2 voyagers ($70), and a CC release ($90)-- $210 before tax.
I bought that Autobot 5 pack for $119.73 total... On top of the Menasor giftset being exclusive, it's clearly targeted at collectors. No kid or non-collector even understands what "toy deco" means. So if a set like this (the toy version Menasor) is such a guaranteed money-maker, then why wasn't it released to mass retail?

But the main point, that some collectors don't consider or don't care about, is that the average, non-collecting person-- kid or adult-- isn't going to jump at spending $50+ on a toy.
Hell, there have been plenty of posts made on these forums over the years by people who are more into collecting than me that state something close to, "... I'll wait until it goes on sale...". Or, "...I'll consider it if I can get it on a sale..."
And weird, that's not just in regards to releases that are $100+.

Releasing the SS86 Constructicons in some exclusive, re-decoed giftset is of course possible.
But again, my point is that a $200+ set of toys is not an easy sell. If you think it is, and you're including the general public and consumers across the board, you've got your head so far up your collection that you're grossly out of touch with reality.

SS69 doesn't prove anything... For every one collector who bought that, there are literally dozens of collectors and non-collectors who didn't.

SS69 Devy was even more expensive than a SS86 boxset would be and it got made. I'm certain some type of box set will be made of the SS86 molds whether it be in SS86, selects or some future line. If for no other reason than some will miss out on the early individual releases and the box set would be their only option.

Not sure how my previous post went through twice...

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wouldn’t doubt it if this new Devastator is never released as a box set…
No matter which deco it involves, the fact is that it’s a $210-ish set when you consider the classes of the figures included. And sure, knock that down to $199 to make it slightly more appealing for some…
But even being Devastator, a $200 toy is not an easy sell.

SS69 proved otherwise.

Yeah, to me it would be strange if they did box sets like that, the SS86 Autobot set, the SS '07 movie Autobot and Decepticon sets and the Legacy Evolution Stunticon set, but not an 86 Constructicon set that's only $20 more but has six figures instead of five? I have strong doubts about that one.

Emerje

A few of those sets you listed cost anywhere from $110-$150...
If Hastak makes a gift set of the SS86 Constructicons, that's 2 deluxes ($50), 2 voyagers ($70), and a CC release ($90)-- $210 before tax.
I bought that Autobot 5 pack for $119.73 total... On top of the Menasor giftset being exclusive, it's clearly targeted at collectors. No kid or non-collector even understands what "toy deco" means. So if a set like this (the toy version Menasor) is such a guaranteed money-maker, then why wasn't it released to mass retail?

But the main point, that some collectors don't consider or don't care about, is that the average, non-collecting person-- kid or adult-- isn't going to jump at spending $50+ on a toy.
Hell, there have been plenty of posts made on these forums over the years by people who are more into collecting than me that state something close to, "... I'll wait until it goes on sale...". Or, "...I'll consider it if I can get it on a sale..."
And weird, that's not just in regards to releases that are $100+.

Releasing the SS86 Constructicons in some exclusive, re-decoed giftset is of course possible.
But again, my point is that a $200+ set of toys is not an easy sell. If you think it is, and you're including the general public and consumers across the board, you've got your head so far up your collection that you're grossly out of touch with reality.

SS69 doesn't prove anything... For every one collector who bought that, there are literally dozens of collectors and non-collectors who didn't.

Overquoting to point out that you never mentioned "mass retail" in your original post, but only for the thing to be made specifically.

SS69 was a 275$US monstrosity and it sold out quickly. I sold mine with the DNA kit at my local geek store and it didn't even last a week on his display shelf. That's not counting all the Takara Masterpieces and 3P figures. SS69 proves everything.

Obviously, these are all aimed at the hardcore collectors and are produced in limited quantities. For all those who were foolish enough to wait for any of these toys to "be on sale", they only missed out and were stuck to pay double on eBay afterward.

The only 200$+ toys that you can wait for a sale are the Titans, because they are mass-retail. Easy to find, and often over-produced. They are not the same.

Yeah, what he said. Plus like I said before, we're only talking about a potential $20 difference between the Stunticon set and what a Constructicon set, that's nothing for a collector. And my point about the Autobot and Decepticon movie sets is that Hasbro can justify all sorts of sets when they want to in Studio Series so it makes all the sense in the world to do a box set that's ready made for them.

Emerje

I doubt it would matter much to anyone here but Commander Optimus Prime is in stock at CmdStore.com

Commander SS86 Optimus is fantastic. This is a real mini-MP with a transformation to match. Mine had the misassembled heels/tail lights so I did the fix... only to break part of a foot while figuring out the transformation.
DO NOT FORGET TO FLIP OUT THE CONNECTORS BEFORE FOLDING THE FEET FOR TRUCK MODE. If not, you will break something. I did not like a dummass. Fortunately, the break was minor and I could repair it.
Be warned.

Appart that, the rest of the transformation was easy enough to figure out. The irony is I think it is more complex than MP-01 and MP-10.

The truck is fantastic, appart a small gap at the back of the cab, but nothing deal-breaking.

The trailer is COMPLETE yet a bit plain paint-wise. I'm sure Reprolabels will fix that.

Overall, I do not regret it at all.

amazon just moved my SS-86 Prime delivery to October 27. Can't wait.

Has anyone come across any QC issues with commander Optimus Prime, specifically on getting the neck plate to sit flush in truck mode?

I just can't seem to get it to flip all the way over. It seems like interference between the edge of the neck plate and the front of the truck.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Has anyone come across any QC issues with commander Optimus Prime, specifically on getting the neck plate to sit flush in truck mode?

I just can't seem to get it to flip all the way over. It seems like interference between the edge of the neck plate and the front of the truck.

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The neck plate is SUPER SUPER tight and requires a level of pressure to snap into place that's well beyond normal levels of comfort.

I found that the "horns" of the head can rotate and contribute to how "tight" the plate is. If the horns are in the right position, the plate is easier to put in place.

Thanks Chuck and Kanra, got it. Man that was an uncomfortable amount of force. He really comes together nice in truck mode.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Thanks Chuck and Kanra, got it. Man that was an uncomfortable amount of force. He really comes together nice in truck mode.

It is, it really is and I don't understand why.

Amazon finally says my SS086 Prime is shipping. Can't wait.

Looks like Canada and the US are getting Transformers Studio Series 86 Commander Class Optimus Prime all at once. It was found at Gamestop Canada in limited amounts (since most of the allotted stock went to preorders) and now it's shipping from Amazon.ca. In the US, the toy is now out at Target. We got a few scattered reports from California, Louisiana, Ohio and Iowa, but it may be in other states as well. Pretty cool to see a commander class toy on retail shelves.

If you want more info on what the toy entails and if its worth it, you can check out these reviews below. Enjoy!