Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era
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Top 5 Best Stories from IDW Transformers Comics Era (2005-2018)
The IDW timeline/universe/story that started in 2005 has ended and I personally believe it includes the best Transformers fiction involving our favourite G1 characters. Of course comics can be daunting to get into and I won't pretend every single story was a gem. But there was some stellar storytelling here, the best these characters ever got and I will go through the 5 best stories from this 13 year run that any Transformers fan should check out asap. The titles link to the comics on comixology in case you want to check them out.
Note: At the day this is published, there is a major sale on all these comics at comixology.
5. The Transformers: Ironhide Mini Series by Mike Costa and Casey Coller
I love Ironhide, he is one of my favourite G1 characters and a great archetype: the bad ass old timer soldier who will get the job done. And this book makes great use of that archetype. Plus, for any new readers, the fact that art of the story is Ironhide not remembering a lot means you and him are both unaware of what came before and it serves as a nice introduction to the IDW G1 universe. The biggest selling point though will be the art. As good as the writing is, this book's greatest strength is the gorgeous art from Casey Coller, which to me always felt like the best Dream Wave but done right (so clean and heroic but without odd proportions or angles). - William-James88
Out of the three "solo-character" books (the other two being Bumblebee and Drift), this was the best one. Mystery, suspense, and four full issues of Casey Coller being awesome. - Scotty P
Casey Coller killed, there was a lot of mystery, there was a lot of Ironhide coming to terms with not remembering 4 million years, and it started his unique relationship to Alpha Trion that shaped most of his future. - D-Max
4. Till All Are One Issues 1-12 + Annual by Mairghread Scott and Sara Pitre-Durocher
We always guessed a Starscream lead story would be fun, and this book shows us just how great that can be. While anyone who likes combiners will get their money's worth here, the part I liked most was the later half with Windblade. We get to see just how much that character can add to a story. And, lest we forget, this is the story of Starscream actually being ruler of Cybertron, something the character always wanted and we get to see it play out in full rather than him being instantly killed by Galvatron. - William-James 88
TAAO had some great moments, and I think issue 4 with Bruticus was the best look we've had at a Combiner mind in story and visuals. But 9-12 with Starscream truly changing and then the battle of the minds was truly awesome. - D-Max
3. Shadowplay from More Than Meets the Eye 9-11 by James Roberts and Alex Milne
If anyone is interested in Pre War Cybertron starring Orion Pax as a super cop, then this story is for you. Expertly written and just plain fun to read, with lots of twists (that final page is a bigger twist than anything M Night Shyamalan ever did). While it takes place within the More Than Meets Your Eye comic, this story is very much self contained since it deals with the crew looking back on a conspiracy themed story from Pre War Cybertron and how they interacted with Orion Pax (Optimus Prime before the war) as he searches for answers. This gives us the best look at Cybertron before the war and how society was, and is a very fun mashup of Transformers in different narrative situations, like a police procedural, a political thriller and a heist story (where Orion organizes to steal the Matrix of Leadership!). As I said, just plain fun and it's great to see all the storytelling potential with these beloved characters achieved. - William-James88
2. Transformers: The Wreckers Saga: Last Stand of the Wreckers and Sins of the Wreckers by Nick Roche (and James Roberts for LSOTW)
Simply put, Last Stand of the Wreckers, is the pinnacle IDW story, this is the one that had people screaming at how awesome, fresh, and cool it was. That series helped put Roberts on the map and really helped define Roche's career. It's still an all time favorite of mine. The content, the simple message of people dying in stupid, pointless, preventable ways during war is so dense and so tight. If IDW had a perfect story, that one would be it, for sure.
As for Sins of the Wreckers, it is such a visual story. In the same way I and others have criticized Roberts for way too many words and not a lot of visuals in several cases, this one was the exact opposite, you got more from the story by looking at it then reading it. That book is probably the perfect visual story book from IDW. - D-Max
Sins of the Wreckers was a deeply personal story with a raw emotion and style not really seen elsewhere in Transformers. Might be the top of the full 13 year run when it comes to the use of visual storytelling.- Scotty P
1. Chaos Theory from Transformers 22 and 23 by James Roberts and Alex Milne
If you could only read one comic (well two in this case), this is what I would recommend. While these are brief chapters written at about the half way point of this IDW universe, they serve as its true beginning tieing in what came before and becoming a basis for the future. Optimus Prime and Megatron are the main characters of the Transformers franchise and yet after all these years, this is where we finally get the best look at them. We see what makes them tick, what they stand for. This is a humanizing portrayal of both characters and yet at the same time, we see them for the leaders that they are, these giants that no other character before or after can compare to. And it's written so well. My favourite scene, if I had to pick one, is when both of them just chat about their past battles against one another and compare how much they suffered at each other's hands, both laughing it off. You also get to see how a 4 million year war happens, what it entails and how war strategies for these immortal beings are different than how we would imagine it. There is a great line about how they would plan a battle for centuries only for it to be finished over night. This is just an example of how we get a more detailed look at these characters, at the Transformers lore itself, than ever before.
While it takes place at the very end of the war, we also see both of these characters before the war and how they come to be while also setting up all the lore the IDW Universe has now contributed. Like how Transformers are made (forged or constructed cold) or where the word and symbol for Decepticons comes from and the societal environment where such a clan could rise (we even learn what the "Megatron" name implies). And as I mention this, you would think there would just be loads of text describing things like an encyclopedia, but no it just flows smoothly as a confrontation between the two commanders as they get a sense of where they are at in the war. And the fact that it sets up the lore means you won't feel lost reading it at all, it is a stepping stone for many stories to come (like Shadowplay, mentioned above). I could talk about this endlessly, I didn't even mention the immaculate art by Alex Milne (who has since become THE Transformers artist). It's only two issues, do yourself a favour and read it. - William-James88
Honourable Mention:
Transformers Escalation - A super entertaining part of Furman's arcs that often gets overlooked. This story is peak Furman with him paying off some built-up storylines, seeding others, and doing innovative things. Plus, the Optimus vs Megatron fight in issue 5 is both one of their few one on one battles in IDW and also one of the best ever crafted. - Scotty P
Top 5 Best Stories from IDW Transformers Comics Era (2005-2018)
The IDW timeline/universe/story that started in 2005 has ended and I personally believe it includes the best Transformers fiction involving our favourite G1 characters. Of course comics can be daunting to get into and I won't pretend every single story was a gem. But there was some stellar storytelling here, the best these characters ever got and I will go through the 5 best stories from this 13 year run that any Transformers fan should check out asap. The titles link to the comics on comixology in case you want to check them out.
Note: At the day this is published, there is a major sale on all these comics at comixology.
5. The Transformers: Ironhide Mini Series by Mike Costa and Casey Coller
I love Ironhide, he is one of my favourite G1 characters and a great archetype: the bad ass old timer soldier who will get the job done. And this book makes great use of that archetype. Plus, for any new readers, the fact that art of the story is Ironhide not remembering a lot means you and him are both unaware of what came before and it serves as a nice introduction to the IDW G1 universe. The biggest selling point though will be the art. As good as the writing is, this book's greatest strength is the gorgeous art from Casey Coller, which to me always felt like the best Dream Wave but done right (so clean and heroic but without odd proportions or angles). - William-James88
Out of the three "solo-character" books (the other two being Bumblebee and Drift), this was the best one. Mystery, suspense, and four full issues of Casey Coller being awesome. - Scotty P
Casey Coller killed, there was a lot of mystery, there was a lot of Ironhide coming to terms with not remembering 4 million years, and it started his unique relationship to Alpha Trion that shaped most of his future. - D-Max
4. Till All Are One Issues 1-12 + Annual by Mairghread Scott and Sara Pitre-Durocher
We always guessed a Starscream lead story would be fun, and this book shows us just how great that can be. While anyone who likes combiners will get their money's worth here, the part I liked most was the later half with Windblade. We get to see just how much that character can add to a story. And, lest we forget, this is the story of Starscream actually being ruler of Cybertron, something the character always wanted and we get to see it play out in full rather than him being instantly killed by Galvatron. - William-James 88
TAAO had some great moments, and I think issue 4 with Bruticus was the best look we've had at a Combiner mind in story and visuals. But 9-12 with Starscream truly changing and then the battle of the minds was truly awesome. - D-Max
3. Shadowplay from More Than Meets the Eye 9-11 by James Roberts and Alex Milne
If anyone is interested in Pre War Cybertron starring Orion Pax as a super cop, then this story is for you. Expertly written and just plain fun to read, with lots of twists (that final page is a bigger twist than anything M Night Shyamalan ever did). While it takes place within the More Than Meets Your Eye comic, this story is very much self contained since it deals with the crew looking back on a conspiracy themed story from Pre War Cybertron and how they interacted with Orion Pax (Optimus Prime before the war) as he searches for answers. This gives us the best look at Cybertron before the war and how society was, and is a very fun mashup of Transformers in different narrative situations, like a police procedural, a political thriller and a heist story (where Orion organizes to steal the Matrix of Leadership!). As I said, just plain fun and it's great to see all the storytelling potential with these beloved characters achieved. - William-James88
2. Transformers: The Wreckers Saga: Last Stand of the Wreckers and Sins of the Wreckers by Nick Roche (and James Roberts for LSOTW)
Simply put, Last Stand of the Wreckers, is the pinnacle IDW story, this is the one that had people screaming at how awesome, fresh, and cool it was. That series helped put Roberts on the map and really helped define Roche's career. It's still an all time favorite of mine. The content, the simple message of people dying in stupid, pointless, preventable ways during war is so dense and so tight. If IDW had a perfect story, that one would be it, for sure.
As for Sins of the Wreckers, it is such a visual story. In the same way I and others have criticized Roberts for way too many words and not a lot of visuals in several cases, this one was the exact opposite, you got more from the story by looking at it then reading it. That book is probably the perfect visual story book from IDW. - D-Max
Sins of the Wreckers was a deeply personal story with a raw emotion and style not really seen elsewhere in Transformers. Might be the top of the full 13 year run when it comes to the use of visual storytelling.- Scotty P
1. Chaos Theory from Transformers 22 and 23 by James Roberts and Alex Milne
If you could only read one comic (well two in this case), this is what I would recommend. While these are brief chapters written at about the half way point of this IDW universe, they serve as its true beginning tieing in what came before and becoming a basis for the future. Optimus Prime and Megatron are the main characters of the Transformers franchise and yet after all these years, this is where we finally get the best look at them. We see what makes them tick, what they stand for. This is a humanizing portrayal of both characters and yet at the same time, we see them for the leaders that they are, these giants that no other character before or after can compare to. And it's written so well. My favourite scene, if I had to pick one, is when both of them just chat about their past battles against one another and compare how much they suffered at each other's hands, both laughing it off. You also get to see how a 4 million year war happens, what it entails and how war strategies for these immortal beings are different than how we would imagine it. There is a great line about how they would plan a battle for centuries only for it to be finished over night. This is just an example of how we get a more detailed look at these characters, at the Transformers lore itself, than ever before.
While it takes place at the very end of the war, we also see both of these characters before the war and how they come to be while also setting up all the lore the IDW Universe has now contributed. Like how Transformers are made (forged or constructed cold) or where the word and symbol for Decepticons comes from and the societal environment where such a clan could rise (we even learn what the "Megatron" name implies). And as I mention this, you would think there would just be loads of text describing things like an encyclopedia, but no it just flows smoothly as a confrontation between the two commanders as they get a sense of where they are at in the war. And the fact that it sets up the lore means you won't feel lost reading it at all, it is a stepping stone for many stories to come (like Shadowplay, mentioned above). I could talk about this endlessly, I didn't even mention the immaculate art by Alex Milne (who has since become THE Transformers artist). It's only two issues, do yourself a favour and read it. - William-James88
Honourable Mention:
Transformers Escalation - A super entertaining part of Furman's arcs that often gets overlooked. This story is peak Furman with him paying off some built-up storylines, seeding others, and doing innovative things. Plus, the Optimus vs Megatron fight in issue 5 is both one of their few one on one battles in IDW and also one of the best ever crafted. - Scotty P
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Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000655)
Posted by hausjam on December 23rd, 2018 @ 12:29am CST
Posted by hausjam on December 23rd, 2018 @ 12:29am CST
I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000658)
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2018 @ 12:52am CST
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2018 @ 12:52am CST
hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000662)
Posted by Optimutt on December 23rd, 2018 @ 1:54am CST
To say nothing of the fact that the comics - especially the IDW comics - give readers tales that delve into all the gritty darkness of the characters that movies and toys just can never reach. If you want to look at source value, the comics have inspired countless toys and aspects of the movies. They are totally indelible.
As for the article. Can't disagree with any of that. However, there were some nods that I wanted to make. MTMTE 13-15 is the story where Overlord breaks loose and wreaks havoc on the Lost Light. Such heartbreaking tale with some amazing character moments that run the range of heartbreaking to bittersweet (Pipes, cute character. Heartbreaking death.) to just plain - Starlord. You know what I mean. So close, but hubris just sidles right on in.
Lost Light 16-18 shows Cyberutopia at last, and man is it the furthest thing from my expectations.
Finally The Death of Optimus Prime. Sure, it was a bit of a scam as (Spoilers) Optimus Prime wasn't really dead. He abandoned the name and then Cybertron under the moniker Orion Pax. It set up the complexities of both MTMTE and RiD very well, leading into the tales of two groups. And all of this after the war ended. It was a bold decision by the IDW creative team, and it managed to bring in so much depth to the characters and to Cybertronian life that we otherwise would never have seen.
Make mine IDW!
And not explicitly speaking of which... do we have a Top 5 Marvel Transformers comic storylines?
Posted by Optimutt on December 23rd, 2018 @ 1:54am CST
william-james88 wrote:hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
To say nothing of the fact that the comics - especially the IDW comics - give readers tales that delve into all the gritty darkness of the characters that movies and toys just can never reach. If you want to look at source value, the comics have inspired countless toys and aspects of the movies. They are totally indelible.
As for the article. Can't disagree with any of that. However, there were some nods that I wanted to make. MTMTE 13-15 is the story where Overlord breaks loose and wreaks havoc on the Lost Light. Such heartbreaking tale with some amazing character moments that run the range of heartbreaking to bittersweet (Pipes, cute character. Heartbreaking death.) to just plain - Starlord. You know what I mean. So close, but hubris just sidles right on in.
Lost Light 16-18 shows Cyberutopia at last, and man is it the furthest thing from my expectations.
Finally The Death of Optimus Prime. Sure, it was a bit of a scam as (Spoilers) Optimus Prime wasn't really dead. He abandoned the name and then Cybertron under the moniker Orion Pax. It set up the complexities of both MTMTE and RiD very well, leading into the tales of two groups. And all of this after the war ended. It was a bold decision by the IDW creative team, and it managed to bring in so much depth to the characters and to Cybertronian life that we otherwise would never have seen.
Make mine IDW!
And not explicitly speaking of which... do we have a Top 5 Marvel Transformers comic storylines?
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000664)
Posted by Deadput on December 23rd, 2018 @ 2:35am CST
I sorta wish that Optimus didn't show up in the present day after that, not including flashbacks and it's left ambiguous as to what he was doing, up to before Unicron where a couple issues show him coming back to aid at the universe's time of need and pick up the name of Optimus again, replace his very oddly villainous Optimus Prime comic role with Starscream or maybe Bumblebee so making Earth part of the council and gaining the ire of Earth and other Cybertronians for the controversial decision to actually make some more sense.
Posted by Deadput on December 23rd, 2018 @ 2:35am CST
Optimutt wrote:Finally The Death of Optimus Prime. Sure, it was a bit of a scam as (Spoilers) Optimus Prime wasn't really dead. He abandoned the name and then Cybertron under the moniker Orion Pax. It set up the complexities of both MTMTE and RiD very well, leading into the tales of two groups. And all of this after the war ended. It was a bold decision by the IDW creative team, and it managed to bring in so much depth to the characters and to Cybertronian life that we otherwise would never have seen.
I sorta wish that Optimus didn't show up in the present day after that, not including flashbacks and it's left ambiguous as to what he was doing, up to before Unicron where a couple issues show him coming back to aid at the universe's time of need and pick up the name of Optimus again, replace his very oddly villainous Optimus Prime comic role with Starscream or maybe Bumblebee so making Earth part of the council and gaining the ire of Earth and other Cybertronians for the controversial decision to actually make some more sense.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000670)
Posted by Quint on December 23rd, 2018 @ 4:41am CST
It was Marvel Comics' Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky who created the entire premise and all of the characters, so, erm, yeah the comic books are pretty integral
Posted by Quint on December 23rd, 2018 @ 4:41am CST
william-james88 wrote:hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
It was Marvel Comics' Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky who created the entire premise and all of the characters, so, erm, yeah the comic books are pretty integral
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000674)
Posted by shellsuitwarrior on December 23rd, 2018 @ 5:19am CST
Quite. That was one of the stupidest possible comments. The comics and their creators (Furman too) shaped the entire franchise.
Posted by shellsuitwarrior on December 23rd, 2018 @ 5:19am CST
Quint wrote:william-james88 wrote:hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
It was Marvel Comics' Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky who created the entire premise and all of the characters, so, erm, yeah the comic books are pretty integral
Quite. That was one of the stupidest possible comments. The comics and their creators (Furman too) shaped the entire franchise.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000693)
Posted by Grimlocktimus on December 23rd, 2018 @ 8:12am CST
Posted by Grimlocktimus on December 23rd, 2018 @ 8:12am CST
Honestly if you don't agree with the comics just don't read them... they certainly aren't fluff, they gave us some incredible storyline and such deep gritty character background... damn near everyone gets a chance to shine without being hindered by a half hour runtime and a cartoon budget... not to mention pretty much every deluxe in the thrilling thirty line was based on a current IDW character
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000694)
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on December 23rd, 2018 @ 8:17am CST
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on December 23rd, 2018 @ 8:17am CST
Holy crap -- how can you make this list and not include Death of Optimus Prime + Robots In Disguise 1-16? That arc is absolutely one of the greatest Transformer stories of all time. Till All Are One is great, and I'd have it on the list, but not at the expense of the story that brilliantly put Starscream in power in the first place.
I agree with Chaos Theory at #1, and obviously Last Stand of the Wreckers and Till All Are One belong here. But Shadowplay was merely "quite good" and that Ironhide mini was totally forgettable for me.
So my list would be...
5). Lost Light #25 (Just a fantastic grace note to end this saga on.)
4). Till All Are One 1-12
3). Last Stand of the Wreckers
2). Death of Optimus Prime + RID 1-16
1). Chaos Theory
...With apologies to Escalation and Devastation, which really were great. Sorry Simon.
I agree with Chaos Theory at #1, and obviously Last Stand of the Wreckers and Till All Are One belong here. But Shadowplay was merely "quite good" and that Ironhide mini was totally forgettable for me.
So my list would be...
5). Lost Light #25 (Just a fantastic grace note to end this saga on.)
4). Till All Are One 1-12
3). Last Stand of the Wreckers
2). Death of Optimus Prime + RID 1-16
1). Chaos Theory
...With apologies to Escalation and Devastation, which really were great. Sorry Simon.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000698)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 23rd, 2018 @ 9:45am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 23rd, 2018 @ 9:45am CST
I love Escalation, it really is the best part of the “-ation” trilogy. Infiltration is cool but can be really boring, but my favorite part has to be the exclusion of Optimus Prime (which was the first time ever for Western Audiences I think) in the first arc. Decastation pulls the ending out of Furman’s ass, and it falls flat for me. But Escalation had a good balance of human and Transformer characters, and the almost conspiratical implications are what I had been hoping for in a Transformers film.
But one of my own all time favorite Transformers Comics is Stormbringer. Apocalyptic endgame, Optimus Prime being a bonafide badass, an appearance by Megatron showing a really cool side to the character (one that is willing to put aside differences to stop a greater threat, and highlighting the contrasts between him and Optimus waaaaay before Chaos Theory), The Wreckers, Bludgeon, Jeffries and the Technobots, all the C- and D- Characters on the side, and fantastic art by Don Figueroa. Ah, good stuff.
But one of my own all time favorite Transformers Comics is Stormbringer. Apocalyptic endgame, Optimus Prime being a bonafide badass, an appearance by Megatron showing a really cool side to the character (one that is willing to put aside differences to stop a greater threat, and highlighting the contrasts between him and Optimus waaaaay before Chaos Theory), The Wreckers, Bludgeon, Jeffries and the Technobots, all the C- and D- Characters on the side, and fantastic art by Don Figueroa. Ah, good stuff.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000705)
Posted by o.supreme on December 23rd, 2018 @ 11:19am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 23rd, 2018 @ 11:19am CST
I know my opinions are not popular, as I tend to skew my preferences towards anything that remotely feels like the animated series, which is very little. Keep in mind I am not trolling, my feelings on this are genuine, which is why, with certainty, I can say I enjoyed DW as an incomplete series far more than IDW. But as for top 5, its really only 2 or 3 I genuinely liked, and the rest were "good enough to not be horrible".
5. Combiner Wars This had the potential to be my favorite series of all time, unfortunately it was way short, and belies its name. It was frustrating to see how much time was spent in this series focusing on non-combiner characters such as Starscream, Windblade etc...People complain that these characters personalities were never fully fleshed out, and this was definitely a missed opportunity. Despite all this, it did have some great art, and great visuals
4. Last Stand of the Wreckers -Overlord, what else can I say. he's not as cool as Masterforce Overlord, but still an interesting take on the character.
3. Stormbringer after a *dull as dishwater* start for IDW, this series at least sparked my interest, unfortunately afterwards, we had to dredge through 2 more furman series before things got really good.
2. Spotlights (all of them). Although these were spread across several years, at random and with different artists and writers attached, i found myself always looking forward to these stories, focusing on just one character, or a small core group for support. I miss these, and wish we'd have gotten more of them.
1. All Hail Megatron (1-12 only sans Coda) - What can I say, one of the few times IDW made an attempt to make Transformers actually LOOK and FEEL like the Transformers I know and love. Despite it's title, it is a story filled with amazing battles, and an Optimus Prime that overcomes his own self doubts to become almost super-hero like. Not something we need all the time, but gave me the most fun read ever in IDW, much preferable to the character that was hated by both Autobots and himself that developed towards the end of IDW run.
honorable mention -Robots in Disguise early issues (prior to becoming JUST TF &) Optimus Prime -early issues.
5. Combiner Wars This had the potential to be my favorite series of all time, unfortunately it was way short, and belies its name. It was frustrating to see how much time was spent in this series focusing on non-combiner characters such as Starscream, Windblade etc...People complain that these characters personalities were never fully fleshed out, and this was definitely a missed opportunity. Despite all this, it did have some great art, and great visuals
4. Last Stand of the Wreckers -Overlord, what else can I say. he's not as cool as Masterforce Overlord, but still an interesting take on the character.
3. Stormbringer after a *dull as dishwater* start for IDW, this series at least sparked my interest, unfortunately afterwards, we had to dredge through 2 more furman series before things got really good.
2. Spotlights (all of them). Although these were spread across several years, at random and with different artists and writers attached, i found myself always looking forward to these stories, focusing on just one character, or a small core group for support. I miss these, and wish we'd have gotten more of them.
1. All Hail Megatron (1-12 only sans Coda) - What can I say, one of the few times IDW made an attempt to make Transformers actually LOOK and FEEL like the Transformers I know and love. Despite it's title, it is a story filled with amazing battles, and an Optimus Prime that overcomes his own self doubts to become almost super-hero like. Not something we need all the time, but gave me the most fun read ever in IDW, much preferable to the character that was hated by both Autobots and himself that developed towards the end of IDW run.
honorable mention -Robots in Disguise early issues (prior to becoming JUST TF &) Optimus Prime -early issues.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000749)
Posted by ScottyP on December 23rd, 2018 @ 9:19pm CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 23rd, 2018 @ 9:19pm CST
^ Yeah, Stormbringer came up in our staff discussion while putting this together. Definitely great, but I think it's "Top 10" material rather than top 5.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000757)
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2018 @ 11:27pm CST
Theforgottentaxi, the staff discussion mentioned above did also include those specific issues of RID, so your tastes are very close to ours (our lists are quite similar afterall). The reason I chose not to include it in the top 5 was because it was rather long and thus less obvious to pinpoint exactly what i wuld recomend. For instance, the starscream ise to power, yes, but the Syndromica suff, no. Also, I really didn't like the death of optimus prime. It felt like a cheap marketting ploy, and in any case the real begining to the post DOOP era is actually Chaos Theory so I felt everything was covered there..
As for the discussion points on the Ironhide series, with this list being really condensed I wanted to make sure that the art portion of the IDW comics was well represented. So Milne and Roche are obvious, but Casey Coller is who I find to be the best and I really wanted to showcase his work on this list. It also happens to be a fine story and begins the big focus on the Primes and mythology. Plus for a new reader, its easy to recomend since you are in the same POV as the tital character.
And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2018 @ 11:27pm CST
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:Holy crap -- how can you make this list and not include Death of Optimus Prime + Robots In Disguise 1-16? That arc is absolutely one of the greatest Transformer stories of all time. Till All Are One is great, and I'd have it on the list, but not at the expense of the story that brilliantly put Starscream in power in the first place.
I agree with Chaos Theory at #1, and obviously Last Stand of the Wreckers and Till All Are One belong here. But Shadowplay was merely "quite good" and that Ironhide mini was totally forgettable for me.
So my list would be...
5). Lost Light #25 (Just a fantastic grace note to end this saga on.)
4). Till All Are One 1-12
3). Last Stand of the Wreckers
2). Death of Optimus Prime + RID 1-16
1). Chaos Theory
...With apologies to Escalation and Devastation, which really were great. Sorry Simon.
ScottyP wrote:^ Yeah, Stormbringer came up in our staff discussion while putting this together. Definitely great, but I think it's "Top 10" material rather than top 5.
Theforgottentaxi, the staff discussion mentioned above did also include those specific issues of RID, so your tastes are very close to ours (our lists are quite similar afterall). The reason I chose not to include it in the top 5 was because it was rather long and thus less obvious to pinpoint exactly what i wuld recomend. For instance, the starscream ise to power, yes, but the Syndromica suff, no. Also, I really didn't like the death of optimus prime. It felt like a cheap marketting ploy, and in any case the real begining to the post DOOP era is actually Chaos Theory so I felt everything was covered there..
As for the discussion points on the Ironhide series, with this list being really condensed I wanted to make sure that the art portion of the IDW comics was well represented. So Milne and Roche are obvious, but Casey Coller is who I find to be the best and I really wanted to showcase his work on this list. It also happens to be a fine story and begins the big focus on the Primes and mythology. Plus for a new reader, its easy to recomend since you are in the same POV as the tital character.
And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000785)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 24th, 2018 @ 7:34am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 24th, 2018 @ 7:34am CST
I don't have a list to contribute, as I haven't read anything IDW before DoOP, but I do have 2 questions:
Why no Dark Cybertron?
Would any of the arcs from ReGeneration One qualify? It did come out under the IDW banner, but it is a continuation of the G1 story.
Why no Dark Cybertron?
Would any of the arcs from ReGeneration One qualify? It did come out under the IDW banner, but it is a continuation of the G1 story.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000802)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 24th, 2018 @ 9:02am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 24th, 2018 @ 9:02am CST
hah, i've actually read some of these and these are supposedly the best? Wow ok. IDW TF G1 stuff was really not written for me then. I thought Last Stand was... eh ok but Sins was bloody awful.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000806)
Posted by Deadput on December 24th, 2018 @ 9:08am CST
Just like everything else in the thread it's just a subjective opinion, I don't think the article is stating these are factually the best but those that the article author thought were the best.
Posted by Deadput on December 24th, 2018 @ 9:08am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:hah, i've actually read some of these and these are supposedly the best? Wow ok. IDW TF G1 stuff was really not written for me then. I thought Last Stand was... eh ok but Sins was bloody awful.
Just like everything else in the thread it's just a subjective opinion, I don't think the article is stating these are factually the best but those that the article author thought were the best.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2000843)
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on December 24th, 2018 @ 10:24am CST
This is fair. I was mentally excluding the Syndromica stuff, which I agree is not great. I do think the Cybertron arc is tight enough to qualify as one story, but it is awkward to have to say "Transformers RID 1-5, 7-0, 11-16, and also that annual probably."
As for DoOP, the title is something of a marketing gimmick, but the actual story was aces, and absolutely key to what came next, so I didn't hold that against it. Honestly, going into the issue I remember thinking, "GROAN, Prime dying feels very played out, and like a weird way to start a story," so I was pretty pleased with what actually happened.
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on December 24th, 2018 @ 10:24am CST
Theforgottentaxi, the staff discussion mentioned above did also include those specific issues of RID, so your tastes are very close to ours (our lists are quite similar afterall). The reason I chose not to include it in the top 5 was because it was rather long and thus less obvious to pinpoint exactly what i wuld recomend. For instance, the starscream ise to power, yes, but the Syndromica suff, no. Also, I really didn't like the death of optimus prime. It felt like a cheap marketting ploy, and in any case the real begining to the post DOOP era is actually Chaos Theory so I felt everything was covered there.
This is fair. I was mentally excluding the Syndromica stuff, which I agree is not great. I do think the Cybertron arc is tight enough to qualify as one story, but it is awkward to have to say "Transformers RID 1-5, 7-0, 11-16, and also that annual probably."
As for DoOP, the title is something of a marketing gimmick, but the actual story was aces, and absolutely key to what came next, so I didn't hold that against it. Honestly, going into the issue I remember thinking, "GROAN, Prime dying feels very played out, and like a weird way to start a story," so I was pretty pleased with what actually happened.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001088)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 26th, 2018 @ 10:55am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 26th, 2018 @ 10:55am CST
Hmmm Interesting list. I disagree with several points, but it is interesting.
To me, Bombertron was not a good era for Megatron. Plus the design was awful. As I've said before, Everything following Spotlight Sideswipe was a massive dip in quality that didn't halt until DoOP.
Bearing in mind, virtually everything post-DoOP I am currently reading retroactively via the partwork, so any list I could recommend wouldn't be that long. But I will give it a go.
1. Last Stand of The Wreckers - As mentioned in the OG list, if there was one book I would recommend to anyone that represents the absolute best IDWverse had to offer it is this one. Springer is technically the only "name" Transformer to most fans that starred in this (Ultra Magnus is a virtual cameo) and it proves the point that not every Transformers story needs to fetishise Megatron and Optimus Prime to work. This book sums up the entire mandate behind the IDW revival of Transformers and works on every level.
2. The Spotlights aka World Building without world building. A virtual codex to the entire IDWverse, reimagining everyone and distancing itself from the past in doing so. Some changes worked really well at casting a new light on old faces IE Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod, Arcee
and others, not so much EG Mirage, Cliffjumper, Optimus Prime.
3. Stormbringer What I love most about Transformers is when it embraces the idea of 'Giant Alien Robots'. Earth is boring and generic, show us Real Sci-Fi, show us the stars. Again another outstanding reimagining in Thunderwing, as IDWverse Incredible Hulk. A mad, near-unstoppable force of nature that ultimately brought about Cybertron's ruin.
What I liked most was that in the end, no one could beat him. He simply ran out of juice. It's a shame no writer was upto the challenge of using him effectively after this book.
4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
5. Escalation I really liked Infiltration. Much for the same reason as LSoTW. It gave us a new angle and fresh perspective. Unfortunately Optimus Prime shows up in this one. However, he isn't yet 'God-Bot' as he would later become. He actively loses his first fight against Megatron. Hard. The intricate level of world building at play within this arc is really impressive, even looking back on it today.
To me, Bombertron was not a good era for Megatron. Plus the design was awful. As I've said before, Everything following Spotlight Sideswipe was a massive dip in quality that didn't halt until DoOP.
Bearing in mind, virtually everything post-DoOP I am currently reading retroactively via the partwork, so any list I could recommend wouldn't be that long. But I will give it a go.
1. Last Stand of The Wreckers - As mentioned in the OG list, if there was one book I would recommend to anyone that represents the absolute best IDWverse had to offer it is this one. Springer is technically the only "name" Transformer to most fans that starred in this (Ultra Magnus is a virtual cameo) and it proves the point that not every Transformers story needs to fetishise Megatron and Optimus Prime to work. This book sums up the entire mandate behind the IDW revival of Transformers and works on every level.
2. The Spotlights aka World Building without world building. A virtual codex to the entire IDWverse, reimagining everyone and distancing itself from the past in doing so. Some changes worked really well at casting a new light on old faces IE Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod, Arcee
and others, not so much EG Mirage, Cliffjumper, Optimus Prime.
3. Stormbringer What I love most about Transformers is when it embraces the idea of 'Giant Alien Robots'. Earth is boring and generic, show us Real Sci-Fi, show us the stars. Again another outstanding reimagining in Thunderwing, as IDWverse Incredible Hulk. A mad, near-unstoppable force of nature that ultimately brought about Cybertron's ruin.
What I liked most was that in the end, no one could beat him. He simply ran out of juice. It's a shame no writer was upto the challenge of using him effectively after this book.
4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
5. Escalation I really liked Infiltration. Much for the same reason as LSoTW. It gave us a new angle and fresh perspective. Unfortunately Optimus Prime shows up in this one. However, he isn't yet 'God-Bot' as he would later become. He actively loses his first fight against Megatron. Hard. The intricate level of world building at play within this arc is really impressive, even looking back on it today.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001090)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:06am CST
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:06am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001091)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:10am CST
Eric Holmes. Duly noted
. It has indeed been a while since I read through Origin 
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:10am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted
. It has indeed been a while since I read through Origin
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001097)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:43am CST
Ah yes, Eric Holmes. Stuart Holmes wrote Spotlight: Ramjet then?
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:43am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted
Ah yes, Eric Holmes. Stuart Holmes wrote Spotlight: Ramjet then?
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001099)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:46am CST
Stuart Moore, getting closer
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:46am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted
Ah yes, Eric Holmes. Stuart Holmes wrote Spotlight: Ramjet then?
Stuart Moore, getting closer
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001100)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:53am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 26th, 2018 @ 11:53am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted
Ah yes, Eric Holmes. Stuart Holmes wrote Spotlight: Ramjet then?
Stuart Moore, getting closer
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001331)
Posted by william-james88 on December 27th, 2018 @ 11:55pm CST
Hi, nobody responded to this yet, which is too bad since I wish someone could give me some answers about the end and how Optimus was able to defeat Thunderwing with just a gun when no one else could. It happens to be one of the main points why I do not think this story is as good as the rest, due to the rather weak ending.
Posted by william-james88 on December 27th, 2018 @ 11:55pm CST
william-james88 wrote:And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Hi, nobody responded to this yet, which is too bad since I wish someone could give me some answers about the end and how Optimus was able to defeat Thunderwing with just a gun when no one else could. It happens to be one of the main points why I do not think this story is as good as the rest, due to the rather weak ending.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001356)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 28th, 2018 @ 8:31am CST
Right on, Will.
Okay, so you’re more or less right about the ending of Stormbringer being pretty weak. However, it was stated somewhere in there, by Jetfire, that Thunderwing basically just ran out of juice. Optimus wasn’t necessarily able to defeat him so much as Thunderwing basically just tuckered out.
It’s a half-assed explanation, true. But it’s at least an explanation, so I’ve never been too bothered by it.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 28th, 2018 @ 8:31am CST
william-james88 wrote:william-james88 wrote:And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Hi, nobody responded to this yet, which is too bad since I wish someone could give me some answers about the end and how Optimus was able to defeat Thunderwing with just a gun when no one else could. It happens to be one of the main points why I do not think this story is as good as the rest, due to the rather weak ending.
Right on, Will.
Okay, so you’re more or less right about the ending of Stormbringer being pretty weak. However, it was stated somewhere in there, by Jetfire, that Thunderwing basically just ran out of juice. Optimus wasn’t necessarily able to defeat him so much as Thunderwing basically just tuckered out.
It’s a half-assed explanation, true. But it’s at least an explanation, so I’ve never been too bothered by it.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001361)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 28th, 2018 @ 8:51am CST
Yeah, that does sound familiar...
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 28th, 2018 @ 8:51am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:william-james88 wrote:william-james88 wrote:And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Hi, nobody responded to this yet, which is too bad since I wish someone could give me some answers about the end and how Optimus was able to defeat Thunderwing with just a gun when no one else could. It happens to be one of the main points why I do not think this story is as good as the rest, due to the rather weak ending.
Right on, Will.
Okay, so you’re more or less right about the ending of Stormbringer being pretty weak. However, it was stated somewhere in there, by Jetfire, that Thunderwing basically just ran out of juice. Optimus wasn’t necessarily able to defeat him so much as Thunderwing basically just tuckered out.
It’s a half-assed explanation, true. But it’s at least an explanation, so I’ve never been too bothered by it.
Yeah, that does sound familiar...
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
3. Stormbringer What I love most about Transformers is when it embraces the idea of 'Giant Alien Robots'. Earth is boring and generic, show us Real Sci-Fi, show us the stars. Again another outstanding reimagining in Thunderwing, as IDWverse Incredible Hulk. A mad, near-unstoppable force of nature that ultimately brought about Cybertron's ruin.
What I liked most was that in the end, no one could beat him. He simply ran out of juice. It's a shame no writer was upto the challenge of using him effectively after this book.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001363)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 28th, 2018 @ 8:57am CST
I meant in Terms of in story explanations. Jetfire is the one who actually exposits what happened.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 28th, 2018 @ 8:57am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:william-james88 wrote:william-james88 wrote:And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Hi, nobody responded to this yet, which is too bad since I wish someone could give me some answers about the end and how Optimus was able to defeat Thunderwing with just a gun when no one else could. It happens to be one of the main points why I do not think this story is as good as the rest, due to the rather weak ending.
Right on, Will.
Okay, so you’re more or less right about the ending of Stormbringer being pretty weak. However, it was stated somewhere in there, by Jetfire, that Thunderwing basically just ran out of juice. Optimus wasn’t necessarily able to defeat him so much as Thunderwing basically just tuckered out.
It’s a half-assed explanation, true. But it’s at least an explanation, so I’ve never been too bothered by it.
Yeah, that does sound familiar...AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
3. Stormbringer What I love most about Transformers is when it embraces the idea of 'Giant Alien Robots'. Earth is boring and generic, show us Real Sci-Fi, show us the stars. Again another outstanding reimagining in Thunderwing, as IDWverse Incredible Hulk. A mad, near-unstoppable force of nature that ultimately brought about Cybertron's ruin.
What I liked most was that in the end, no one could beat him. He simply ran out of juice. It's a shame no writer was upto the challenge of using him effectively after this book.
I meant in Terms of in story explanations. Jetfire is the one who actually exposits what happened.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001366)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 28th, 2018 @ 9:13am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 28th, 2018 @ 9:13am CST
Sorry, I was agreeing with you while reiterating in answer to Will's point that no one had replied to the previous comment on Stormbringer.
To be honest, the most ridiculous thing Optimus 'God-Bot' Prime ever did in IDWverse in that vain, was One Punch a Gestalt... Suspension of disbelief was out the window there..
To be honest, the most ridiculous thing Optimus 'God-Bot' Prime ever did in IDWverse in that vain, was One Punch a Gestalt... Suspension of disbelief was out the window there..
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001372)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 28th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
Ah, right on!
Yeah, Optimus during Furman’s run was pretty OP (pun intended). I don’t know if it can be thought of as “too much” though, given that it was what we were used to at the time. It wasn’t really anything new, but it hadn’t necessarily overstayed it’s welcome yet.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 28th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sorry, I was agreeing with you while reiterating in answer to Will's point that no one had replied to the previous comment on Stormbringer.
To be honest, the most ridiculous thing Optimus 'God-Bot' Prime ever did in IDWverse in that vain, was One Punch a Gestalt... Suspension of disbelief was out the window there..
Ah, right on!
Yeah, Optimus during Furman’s run was pretty OP (pun intended). I don’t know if it can be thought of as “too much” though, given that it was what we were used to at the time. It wasn’t really anything new, but it hadn’t necessarily overstayed it’s welcome yet.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001378)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 28th, 2018 @ 9:49am CST
You say that but in his first IDW fight with Megatron, he loses quite hard. Then again, Furman's run did give Megs a level of near invincibility he never really elaborated on. One that was taken to crazy extremes with Bombertron later.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 28th, 2018 @ 9:49am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sorry, I was agreeing with you while reiterating in answer to Will's point that no one had replied to the previous comment on Stormbringer.
To be honest, the most ridiculous thing Optimus 'God-Bot' Prime ever did in IDWverse in that vain, was One Punch a Gestalt... Suspension of disbelief was out the window there..
Ah, right on!
Yeah, Optimus during Furman’s run was pretty OP (pun intended). I don’t know if it can be thought of as “too much” though, given that it was what we were used to at the time. It wasn’t really anything new, but it hadn’t necessarily overstayed it’s welcome yet.
You say that but in his first IDW fight with Megatron, he loses quite hard. Then again, Furman's run did give Megs a level of near invincibility he never really elaborated on. One that was taken to crazy extremes with Bombertron later.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2001391)
Posted by william-james88 on December 28th, 2018 @ 10:50am CST
I asked my question after what you wrote since i still didnt get what Optimus had to do with it. From a comic storytelling perspective it really looked like he had something to do with Thunderwing's downfall when no one else could. And now i also know who explains what in the book.
And as for Bomber Megatron, that is OP to the max. He goes up against DVoid alone and it actually looks like a fair fight.
Posted by william-james88 on December 28th, 2018 @ 10:50am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sorry, I was agreeing with you while reiterating in answer to Will's point that no one had replied to the previous comment on Stormbringer.
To be honest, the most ridiculous thing Optimus 'God-Bot' Prime ever did in IDWverse in that vain, was One Punch a Gestalt... Suspension of disbelief was out the window there..
I asked my question after what you wrote since i still didnt get what Optimus had to do with it. From a comic storytelling perspective it really looked like he had something to do with Thunderwing's downfall when no one else could. And now i also know who explains what in the book.
And as for Bomber Megatron, that is OP to the max. He goes up against DVoid alone and it actually looks like a fair fight.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Stories from IDW Comics Era (2044834)
Posted by Tigerhawk7109 on November 16th, 2019 @ 7:17am CST
Posted by Tigerhawk7109 on November 16th, 2019 @ 7:17am CST
Honestly, my list is pretty different. Here it is:
#5: Tie between Lost Light #20 and Salvation -Big points for LL, and Salvation is a great conclusion to the Dinobots' story arc
#4: Windblade Volume 2 5,6, and 7 -This is where Windblade's story gets interesting for real
#3: 'Til All Are One -all of it, for the simple reason that it's so good
#2: Last Stand of the Wreckers -All reasons mentioned above
#1: The Dying of The Light -Could it be anything other than this?
HM's to All Hail Megatron, Redemption, and my personal favorite: MTMTE 43: The One Where They Go To Earth
'Til all are one
'
#5: Tie between Lost Light #20 and Salvation -Big points for LL, and Salvation is a great conclusion to the Dinobots' story arc
#4: Windblade Volume 2 5,6, and 7 -This is where Windblade's story gets interesting for real
#3: 'Til All Are One -all of it, for the simple reason that it's so good
#2: Last Stand of the Wreckers -All reasons mentioned above
#1: The Dying of The Light -Could it be anything other than this?
HM's to All Hail Megatron, Redemption, and my personal favorite: MTMTE 43: The One Where They Go To Earth
'Til all are one
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