Transformers Power of the Primes Wave 2 Deluxes Showing up Online for 16.99

That's the standard price on shelves in my area... Is it not like that everywhere else?

Also, totally got Moonracer for the Target sale price of 14.99 today. WITH the card that I wanted, too!

DecepticonFinishline wrote:That's the standard price on shelves in my area... Is it not like that everywhere else?

Also, totally got Moonracer for the Target sale price of 14.99 today. WITH the card that I wanted, too!

It's the fact that Amazon can have 3rd party (non hasbro) sellers that charge more that 16.99. When hasbro stocks them they are at that price, 3rd party sellers often want more so when the ones hasbro stocks sell out the price goes back up. It can be tricky to get them at the standard price online when they are hard to find.

I looked for her today but my local Target was host to nothing but crickets. Oh well. Happy for you though!

I finally bit the bullet a couple of weeks ago and bought them on BBTS.

At $89.99 for the full wave, and $4 shipping, that's only $1.75 over the retail $16.99 a figure. Given sales tax here is 9.25%, I only overpaid by $0.18 per figure...

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Primal space log, Primal surfboard.

Those are the same mode.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Ape, ...surfing Ape

As are these. One's just standing on something while the other isn't.

I still count it, but if we need to get picky, we can call them half modes, so Primal has 2.5 modes, and Optimal has 3+0.5+0.5 = 4, so 6.5 modes overall.

Still counts.

What's different about the two in the first pair?

One is by itself, the other is attached to something else in an entirely different role.

It's my head canon dude, much like SG Roddy

Primal reminds me of Energon Landmine and Bulkhead. Bulkhead's 'brute mode' consisted of combining with his drone in robot mode, and his attack mode consisted of riding on his drone in helicopter mode. Not too different from Primal.

But Primal also reminds me of Earth X Bruce Banner, so there's definitely fodder for some weird head canon there...

I snagged Moonracer on Amazon 2 days ago for $16.99. The price fluctuated quite a bit that day too. I got her in the morning around 8:30 AM Central if I remember correctly. Wave 2 has only hit my local Walmarts once here in Central Illinois. I've checked with Walmart reps and they do not have more on order currently.

I just fixed the feet on my Elita-1. Not worth the trouble, IMO.

Spreading the joint open far enough to remove the toe requires either removing three screws and disassembling the entire lower leg, or removing two screws and carefully spreading the the leg just far enough that the toe will come out without cracking the lower leg. Doing it the first way is certainly less risky, and was what I did for the left leg, but on the right leg, one of the screws was already stripped, such that I had no way to remove it.

Unfortunately, if you spread the joint far enough that toe will come out, you've spread it more than far enough for the spring in Elita Infin1te's shoulder to lock to pop through to the other side. On my fully disassembled leg, fixing that made me feel like I had simultaneously too many fingers and too few. On the partially disassembled leg, fixing it was physically impossible.

Long story short, Elita-1 stands slightly better, but in combined form one of her arms will likely require gravity to hold it in place.

Caelus wrote:I just fixed the feet on my Elita-1. Not worth the trouble, IMO.

Spreading the joint open far enough to remove the toe requires either removing three screws and disassembling the entire lower leg, or removing two screws and carefully spreading the the leg just far enough that the toe will come out without cracking the lower leg. Doing it the first way is certainly less risky, and was what I did for the left leg, but on the right leg, one of the screws was already stripped, such that I had no way to remove it.

Unfortunately, if you spread the joint far enough that toe will come out, you've spread it more than far enough for the spring in Elita Infin1te's shoulder to lock to pop through to the other side. On my fully disassembled leg, fixing that made me feel like I had simultaneously too many fingers and too few. On the partially disassembled leg, fixing it was physically impossible.

Long story short, Elita-1 stands slightly better, but in combined form one of her arms will likely require gravity to hold it in place.

That sucks! That's exactly why I was hoping later runs would fix this issue, like we saw with the running change in that one peg hole in Starscream's back for his wing assembly in robot mode. If Hasbro doesn't fix this and Takara doesn't either, I'll just leave well enough alone. Sorry that your figure came out a bit worse for your troubles, Caelus.

All of Power of the Primes Wave 2 deluxes are back in stock on Amazon.com for $16.99 with free Prime shipping, with the exception of short packed Blackwing (aka Darkwing)

Moonracer: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen?tag=seibertron07-20& ... =moonracer

Snarl: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ords=snarl

Sludge: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ords=snarl

Rippersnapper: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gen?tag=seibertron07-20& ... persnapper

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Caelus wrote:I just fixed the feet on my Elita-1. Not worth the trouble, IMO.

Spreading the joint open far enough to remove the toe requires either removing three screws and disassembling the entire lower leg, or removing two screws and carefully spreading the the leg just far enough that the toe will come out without cracking the lower leg. Doing it the first way is certainly less risky, and was what I did for the left leg, but on the right leg, one of the screws was already stripped, such that I had no way to remove it.

Unfortunately, if you spread the joint far enough that toe will come out, you've spread it more than far enough for the spring in Elita Infin1te's shoulder to lock to pop through to the other side. On my fully disassembled leg, fixing that made me feel like I had simultaneously too many fingers and too few. On the partially disassembled leg, fixing it was physically impossible.

Long story short, Elita-1 stands slightly better, but in combined form one of her arms will likely require gravity to hold it in place.

That sucks! That's exactly why I was hoping later runs would fix this issue, like we saw with the running change in that one peg hole in Starscream's back for his wing assembly in robot mode. If Hasbro doesn't fix this and Takara doesn't either, I'll just leave well enough alone. Sorry that your figure came out a bit worse for your troubles, Caelus.

I did the repair swap in less than 10 minutes with minimal trouble or fuss.

Do what you gotta do, but I can't see leaving an incorrectly figure that's easily remedied in that situation.

I missed the memo. What's wrong with Elita 1's legs?

Seibertron wrote:I missed the memo. What's wrong with Elita 1's legs?

The feet can be assembled on the wrong sides, preventing her from planting them flat.

I had no trouble swapping them either. I even had the little spring for the combiner socket pop out, but it was easy to put back in.

I've finally gotten all of the Wave 2 Deluxes thanks to Amazon and Walmart. Sludge just arrived from Amazon today. Now I await Wave 3.

Volcanicus is pretty fun. I'm a sucker for combiners. It's so much fun to combine them.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I've finally gotten all of the Wave 2 Deluxes thanks to Amazon and Walmart. Sludge just arrived from Amazon today. Now I await Wave 3.

Volcanicus is pretty fun. I'm a sucker for combiners. It's so much fun to combine them.

I quite like Volcanicus too, despite his flaws. Do you have his "lovehandles" holding some of the excess guns?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I've finally gotten all of the Wave 2 Deluxes thanks to Amazon and Walmart. Sludge just arrived from Amazon today. Now I await Wave 3.

Volcanicus is pretty fun. I'm a sucker for combiners. It's so much fun to combine them.

I quite like Volcanicus too, despite his flaws. Do you have his "lovehandles" holding some of the excess guns?

Haha. Yes, I do. If I hadn't accidentally thrown away Swoop's sword I would have that in his other hand.

I don't see Paddles though...

Got the four deluxe Dinobots and checked to see how they look alongside Classics Grimlock (2006). I like it & might not get Voyager PoTP Grimlock anymore

Looking good Jungletron.

I was trying to avoid getting Voyager Grimlock, and your pics have solidified that I don't need him.
Classics Grimlock fits in with the others nicely.

Volcanicus looks great. Which I have to say, may very well make him the breakout hit of the PotP line. Dinobots combiners always had a shifty or crappy history attached to them safe for perhaps PCC Grimstone.

jungletron wrote:Got the four deluxe Dinobots and checked to see how they look alongside Classics Grimlock (2006). I like it & might not get Voyager PoTP Grimlock anymore

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To each their own, but I don't think I'd be satisfied with Classic Grimlock. The gray plastic colors are way different compared to the rest of the Dinobot team. Also, Grimlock looks a lot more "updated" than the extremely G1-faithful looking Power of the Primes Dinobots. However, having a deluxe sized Grimlock does solve the inherent scale issue with the team, at least when compared only among each other. If you don't like PotP Grimlock, might I suggest the Target exclusive Age of Extinction Grimlock and Optimus Prime two pack? It's a great G1 redeco of Fall of Cybertron Grimlock.

So... my Moonracer's rear wheels don't touch the ground... am I missing something, or are the pegs on her undercarriage way too long?

I think it's just the camera flash that's making Classic Grimlock's color shade seem different from the rest of the Dinobots but on hand, the greys and golds match perfectly. Here's another picture:Same goes for Dreadwind and Blackwing in relation to TakaraTomy Legends Overlord; off-camera the purples, greys and cyans are almost exactly the same.

Some nice pics there jungletron! Love the destron godmaster group, you need a godginrai to tear them apart

I'm more than happy then to display potp grimlock with his buddies, scale like that doesn't bother me in the slightest

ZeroWolf wrote:Some nice pics there jungletron! Love the destron godmaster group, you need a godginrai to tear them apart

I'm more than happy then to display potp grimlock with his buddies, scale like that doesn't bother me in the slightest

Thanks. I'm still on the fence between Hasbro's Powermaster OP & TT SuperGinrai; until I make up my mind, these Destron Godmasters will be battling it out with CW Optimus.

I'm tempted by tt super ginrai but I know if I did that I'd have to get godbomber and that would end up being really expensive but even hasbro's pmop is expensive now, I just don't have the budget for things like that anymore.

If only my camera didn't suck.

That is awesome, but who provided the wings?

ZeroWolf wrote:That is awesome, but who provided the wings?

I'm guessing Construct-Bots Thrilling 30 Transformers Prime Predaking. Do I get a prize if I'm right?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That is awesome, but who provided the wings?

I'm guessing Construct-Bots Thrilling 30 Transformers Prime Predaking. Do I get a prize if I'm right?

You are correct.

I don't have any prizes to give out though.

Caelus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That is awesome, but who provided the wings?

I'm guessing Construct-Bots Thrilling 30 Transformers Prime Predaking. Do I get a prize if I'm right?

You are correct.

I don't have any prizes to give out though.

Aw, shucks.

jungletron wrote:I'm still on the fence between Hasbro's Powermaster OP & TT SuperGinrai; until I make up my mind, these Destron Godmasters will be battling it out with CW Optimus.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm tempted by tt super ginrai but I know if I did that I'd have to get godbomber and that would end up being really expensive but even hasbro's pmop is expensive now, I just don't have the budget for things like that anymore.

Save up your money and try to get the Super Ginrai and Godbomber Transformers Legends giftset from Takara Tomy. It's got the best deco of all the options out there, with some premium chrome accents, and a bonus of Minerva and Cab's Headmasters too. You'll at least save money over trying to buy the Super Ginrai and Godbomber components separately.

Thanks for the advice wolfman and now that you've pointed out that it's construct a bots predaking I can spot the other pieces he donated. I'd never thought of adding bits like that, it makes a huge difference in appearance between that and the official version.

Legends God Ginrai is something I wish I could even, if it at times it doesn't appear all that good or even a mess. It's such a massive figure and it's almost an event unto itself, even arguably the culmination of the sadly-abandonned era when Takara did some crazy things with their releases.

So many reviewers have pointed out it's clunkyness, but goddamn does it look impressive and massive.

Skritz wrote:Legends God Ginrai is something I wish I could even, if it at times it doesn't appear all that good or even a mess. It's such a massive figure and it's almost an event unto itself, even arguably the culmination of the sadly-abandonned era when Takara did some crazy things with their releases.

So many reviewers have pointed out it's clunkyness, but goddamn does it look impressive and massive.

Speaking from experience with the figure, that being the combined God Ginrai form, once you get everything just so, he stands really well. Just pick a pose you like and fiddle with it until you get everything snapped in tight and balanced just so. It's a beautiful figure in hand, but it does take a LOT of work to get everything properly aligned and secured. Individually, Super Ginrai is a lot of fun in and of itself. I just wish the G1 stump legs didn't look so funky. That's the biggest boon that Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime has over Takara's Legends Super Ginrai: proper feet.

In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

I was thinking about how PotP Rippersnapper could easily be a straight recolor into Overbite, and got to thinking about the other Seacons. Even though the toys are supposed to be headed back to Cybertron, I doubt that'd really stop Hasbro from releasing the Seacons - it's not as if they really had Earth disguises anyway.

The way I figure it:

Overbite => Recolor of Rippersnapper
Skalor => Retool of Slug or Sludge
Tentakill => Retool of Blot
Seawing => Retool of Divebomb
Nautilator => Legends Class weapon dude similar to CW Powerglide
Snaptrap => Shared engineering with Starscream/Elita One

That last part probably sounds insane, but bear in mind, I'm talking a similarity between them comparable to the similarity between Silverbolt and Hun-Gurrr. Snaptrap would look very different from his G1 toy, but I think the big forearms and boots would actually look better on him. He'd have heavily armored legs formed from the back half of his shell instead of spindly things tucked under it, and his tortoise head might fold back instead of forward. The transformation to torso mode would involve having the turtle shell pop up, spin around, and snap back into place to form Piranacon's chest the way the wings and fuselage of Starlita's jet mode do.

It also just seems really probable, because now that Hasbro has a solid combiner template worked out, it seems unlikely they'd drop it, yet we're running out of scramble-city Combiners. Hopefully, Hasbro will make up some new ones or expand outside of G1, but hopefully they'll still do Piranacon and Monstructor in the next couple of years.

Divebomb? Do you mean swoop? Divebomb wouldn't work as it's a different scale then the normal limbs the other combiners use

ZeroWolf wrote:Divebomb? Do you mean swoop? Divebomb wouldn't work as it's a different scale then the normal limbs the other combiners use

Or maybe he was thinking of Cutthroat?

ZeroWolf wrote:Divebomb? Do you mean swoop? Divebomb wouldn't work as it's a different scale then the normal limbs the other combiners use

Gah, I meant Cutthroat.

Swoop's beast legs aren't right for Seawing.

I completely forgot about cutthroat for a moment there. I too think the seacons are coming and monstructor for that matter. Wouldn't it be nice if they did the impossible and gave the brainmasters a bit if love...and Road Ceasar (and the multiforce)

ZeroWolf wrote:I completely forgot about cutthroat for a moment there. I too think the seacons are coming and monstructor for that matter. Wouldn't it be nice if they did the impossible and gave the brainmasters a bit if love...and Road Ceasar (and the multiforce)

I can imagine some really off the wall stuff. Like, PotP Inferno retooled into G1 Grapple, and released alongside four deluxes based on the RID Build Team, which could then be repainted a few years down the line as a poor man's Devastator.

It would be pretty weird, but I could also imagine Volcanicus recolored as Magmatron for a boxset like Liokaiser, or a recolor of CW Optimus Prime sold at Leader class with CW-compatible drones.

I would love an energon style op with drones

found something at Loopaza FB Page: Figure King (No. 242) , Hi Re-scan of Optimal, Bludgeon, Elita-1 and Terrorcons + Abominus,

Predaking can be seen as a prototype here.

It's a Friday in Japan too, meaning that March's new releases are starting to pop up across the internet as local fans and collectors acquire their figures and start blogging and photographing them! As this is happening, fellow Seibertronian Albatross250 has pointed us towards the Loopaza Mega Store Facebook page, and some more toy news in the form of scans of the Transformers-related pages of Figure King magazine #242.

The pages feature mostly Power of the Primes products, with Optimus Primal taking most of the space, but accompanied by the likes of Hun-Grrr and the Terrorcons as Abominus, Quintus Prime in his Decoy Suit, Elita-1 and her combiner form Elita Inf1nite, and a small shot of Predaking in his grey prototype mold. Check it all out below!

Sitting here giggling over the photos, not in excitement, but general amusement. Hey, here is Optimus Primal as a square, here is product advertisement mis-transformers Abominus. I know it is supposed to be a call back to original look, but damn if it doesn't make me think of the badly transformed Hasbro product photos we get. Not planning on getting Primal, but if I did/do that photo wouldn't change my mind. Wouldn't see the backpack when I displayed it, and woudlnt really care when I played with it. Still like a little kid when ever I see Abominus as in the back of my head I can hear my inner child throwing "I want" fits.

Acesmcgee wrote:Sitting here giggling over the photos, not in excitement, but general amusement. Hey, here is Optimus Primal as a square, here is product advertisement mis-transformers Abominus. I know it is supposed to be a call back to original look, but damn if it doesn't make me think of the badly transformed Hasbro product photos we get. Not planning on getting Primal, but if I did/do that photo wouldn't change my mind. Wouldn't see the backpack when I displayed it, and woudlnt really care when I played with it. Still like a little kid when ever I see Abominus as in the back of my head I can hear my inner child throwing "I want" fits.

Yeah pretty sure Abominus isn’t mistransformed. Takara likes to to do little homages to the original toys sometimes in their promotions. Hence why Windrazers wings aren’t folded up and the arms look like bricks and Sinner Twin is backwards. They’ve done stuff like that before with unite Warriors and why the pic of abominus next to it shows him with all his articulation.

But please don’t let me knock you off that high horse you’re on

High horse? You're exhibiting what psychologists csall projection.

Adimus Prime wrote:High horse? You're exhibiting what psychologists csall projection.

And you’re a functional adult criticizing toys. What do psychologists call that?

JFC guys...

Knock it off.

As of yesterday my Psychology PhD is officially ABD. I'm too stoned from the medical procedure I just came out of to have an argument, but my professional opinion is "FFS take a chill pill."

So any news on differences with this Terrorcon set as compared to the Hasbro releases?

DMSL wrote:So any news on differences with this Terrorcon set as compared to the Hasbro releases?

No reason to expect them to be any different. Hasbro and Takara are sharing toy production, so everythibg should be the same, unless Takara does a special exclusive thats not part of the main toyline release (like Great Shot)