Un-Released Transformers Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust Coin Uncovered
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Posted by bodrock on June 27th, 2017 @ 5:41pm CDT
Posted by Glarryg on June 27th, 2017 @ 6:26pm CDT
Melt those down. Melt them down and bury them where nobody will ever find them.
Glarryg
Posted by Bounti76 on June 27th, 2017 @ 8:51pm CDT
Glarryg wrote:Interesting. I don't exactly see what kept those from being sold with the figure in the first place; there's no Marlboro logo anywhere on them that I can see. Still, I... <takes lighter>... guess they had to be... <puts cigarette to lips>... extra careful... <flicks lighter>... when-- Oh, dear God, what am I doing?!
Melt those down. Melt them down and bury them where nobody will ever find them.
Glarryg
My guess is (and anyone please correct me if I'm wrong) is that the coins are only sold for MP releases outside Japan. Since Exhaust couldn't be legally sold outside Japan, the coins had zero use- they were to be included with a product that would never see the light of day in the market(s) it was intended for.
Posted by shajaki on June 27th, 2017 @ 10:23pm CDT
Glarryg wrote:Interesting. I don't exactly see what kept those from being sold with the figure in the first place; there's no Marlboro logo anywhere on them that I can see. Still, I... <takes lighter>... guess they had to be... <puts cigarette to lips>... extra careful... <flicks lighter>... when-- Oh, dear God, what am I doing?!



Posted by shajaki on June 27th, 2017 @ 10:29pm CDT
That never considered that! Very astute!Bounti76 wrote:My guess is (and anyone please correct me if I'm wrong) is that the coins are only sold for MP releases outside Japan. Since Exhaust couldn't be legally sold outside Japan, the coins had zero use- they were to be included with a product that would never see the light of day in the market(s) it was intended for.

You're right, I'm pretty sure every coin released is a Hasbro Asia thing, so that totally makes sense. And honestly once I got the coins in hand, I did notice there wasn't anything specifically infringing about it. I just didn't connect the dots


Posted by Evac79 on July 1st, 2017 @ 11:49pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on July 2nd, 2017 @ 11:11am CDT
I did notice the sticker.... even wanted to peel it back just to see what was there as I thought it was odd. But.... the rareness and cost of it... kinda turns my stomach to think of altering it in any way.Evac79 wrote:Peel back the sticker that says "exhaust". The Marlboro motif is there.

Not that a I doubt your word, but how do you know this stranger? Do you have this coin too?
Posted by Evac79 on July 2nd, 2017 @ 7:20pm CDT
I'm not a transformers collector but googled because I wanted to know more about my find. I've actually peeled the sticker and can confirm that it has the Marlboro point under it. My damaged piece is with a toy store in singapore because I didn't know what to do with it.
Hope this helps anyone who had questions about this coin.
Posted by shajaki on July 5th, 2017 @ 1:00am CDT
So.... there are options.Orion Paximus wrote:I know that this thread is mainly talking about the Hasbro rendition of the MP-10 Optimus, but I just wanted to ask a question regarding the Takara MP-10.
Anyone know what I can do for the dead-looking eyes on the figure? I'm currently negotiating a price to purchase the Takara MP-10 from a fellow Seibertronian and want to see if I can get the necessary tools to make the adjustment so I can bring Prime's eyes to life.
Let me know with any solutions?
Option 1: Nonnef

It says sold out, but they were sold out when I inquired too (he eventually made another batch). Long story, and it leads to...
Option 2: Leave Them Be.
I'll explain. My first MP10 (I have many lol) was the Hasbro TRU version. Bright blue eyes, no issue. But after some soul searching, I decided to buy everything Masterpiece, so I needed a Takara MP10 too. Luckily he gets reissued like every 4 months so I hopped on the next train. I'd heard about his "dead eyes", but it didn't bother me as I was only buying him for completions sake anyways, AND I'd planned to give him some yellow Nonnef eyes ala OG toy. Then he arrived. I was taken aback by how stunning his clear blue optics were. Yes, they can appear to be dead, but under the right light, they really pop. So much so, I even bought a second Takara MP-10 specifically to leave as is and still carry out my yellow eye'd plans. So I suggest maybe waiting will he's in hand before deciding the fate of said eyes?


Option 3: Paint Them Yourself?
Self explanatory.
Option 4: Buy The Next Hasbro MP-10
He's on his way, and lookin the same way he did last time, bright blue eyes and all. But! I will fight to the death of the superiority of the Takara MP-10.
Option 5: Stickers
There is a sticker set out there. I don't claim this as 100% accurate, but I think this set here (pic/link) has tiny silver stickers for the backs of MP-10's eyes, to make them more reflective.

Posted by Bumblebee21 on July 5th, 2017 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by shajaki on July 5th, 2017 @ 1:15pm CDT
What's a MP-10V? Either way, yes, I have them allBumblebee21 wrote:This is probably a stupid question, do you have mp-10v shaj

Posted by Bumblebee21 on July 5th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on July 5th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT
Lets get something straight here. That's a KO. There is no MP-10VBumblebee21 wrote:Oppps I meant mp-10B but mp-10v is a Voyager scale one.

But yes, I have MP-10B already, and minutes ago pre-ordered the reissue for... reasons...
Subject: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-10B Black Convoy
Va'al wrote:shajaki wrote:This is a necro of a thread![]()
Honestly... I'm trying to decide if I need this.... and other reissues. Let me explain.....
The most recent MP's, have this logo stamped on them:
I don't know what it is, but it's there. And it's also on the most recent reissues. Starscream, Soundwave, and the two Cassette sets. If I were a betting man, I'd say this'll have it too. I have already committed myself to buying everything MP, including box variants... but this is so arbitrary and minuscule...... the struggle....
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... 016/36608/
Posted by Cobotron on July 5th, 2017 @ 2:15pm CDT

What is the scope with that new tag on the boxes? MP-37 and 38 are the first I've had with it.
Anybody got the skinny on the "Long Life" logo?
Posted by Bumblebee21 on July 5th, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on July 5th, 2017 @ 2:47pm CDT
It is. It really really is.Cobotron wrote:Oh shaj my friend, your OCD is is OtTW. (out of this world)![]()



Thankfully, the good Doctor is inCobotron wrote:What is the scope with that new tag on the boxes? MP-37 and 38 are the first I've had with it.
Anybody got the skinny on the "Long Life" logo?

BBTS? What about importers? Either way, ironically this might be one of the cheapest ways to get a legitimate MP-10. It's a reissue, so direct retailer buy (no inflated secondary scalpers). And he's trailer-less, so the price is cut in half.Bumblebee21 wrote:Conflicted about mp-10b. The price on bbts is hard to beat. Plus there's a ko trailer, but idk if I'll get that
And seriously, the trailers are overrated. Having one is fine. But I sure didn't need the ones with SG, YOTH, or Eva. I'll never display them in truck mode, and there's only so much space for displaying.
Posted by shajaki on July 5th, 2017 @ 2:54pm CDT




Posted by Cobotron on July 5th, 2017 @ 4:02pm CDT

Good job Takara!
Posted by Overloaded on July 7th, 2017 @ 1:37pm CDT
Posted by EmirateXaaron on July 7th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT
If you don't mind spending a bit more money, I'd definitely go for Shockwave, Grimlock, and Ultra Magnus (The newer one, heh). MP-10 and MP-10B are also getting reissues, so if you want the newer Optimus mold now is the perfect time to get it for a somewhat reasonable price. If you can find Soundwave for a good price, definitely pick him up, as he's such a cool figure to display.
Finally, if money is no object to you, I'd definitely recommend Megatron. Despite the problems people had with him when he first came out, he's still a very very cool figure. Plus, his transformation is really quite an experience.
Well, that's some of my thoughts on where I would start. I do hope this helps! Happy collecting!

Posted by Overloaded on July 7th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 7th, 2017 @ 8:32pm CDT
Overloaded wrote:Thank you any idea who is the best site to use
I don't know how their prices on masterpieces compare, but just from a customer service perspective, I'm pretty happy ordering from BBTS. My CW Devastator came (sealed) with factory error and they took good care of me.
Posted by shajaki on July 8th, 2017 @ 12:18am CDT
Your query is perfect for this thread, so I took the liberty of merging

I can help too. But need a moment to compose myself

Posted by Overloaded on July 8th, 2017 @ 5:37am CDT
shajaki wrote:Overloaded! Welcome back to Seibertron!
Your query is perfect for this thread, so I took the liberty of merging
I can help too. But need a moment to compose myself
Thank you I try to keep up to date
Posted by shajaki on July 8th, 2017 @ 4:05pm CDT
So! I thought I's answered this question recently with someone else, and kinda, but not thoroughly. But first, you have a lot in consideration there... what's the actual goal? Total completionist? Character completionist? Mold completionist?Overloaded wrote:Thank you I try to keep up to date
Firstly:
You said you had Prime, Ultra Magnus, and Starscream? Can I assume these are MP-1, MP-2, and MP-3 respectively?
Secondly, where to acquire new:
Keep a close eye on all outlets. Keep up on new releases, and TakaraTomy is reissuing things all the time. Watch import stores like Amiami and HLJ. Normally they are the cheapest option (especially with pre-orders, they are cheaper than when they physically come in stock). Then there's always Hasbro and TRU. They have proven to be difficult to find, expensive, and far and fewer between when compared to their Japanese counterparts. But still, it's a resource. And lastly, if you're uncomfortable with importing then there's always BBTS. Prices are slightly inflated to compensate for them importing stuff themselves, but their POL feature and customer service are top notch.
Where/how to acquire old:
What local resources do you have? For example, I'm a part of a local Facebook group (for the city I live in) that I have gotten some amazing deals from. There's also Kijiji, which is basically a not-shifty version of Craigslist. I just search "transformers" and check it daily. There's some fantastic Used TF sites out there these days too. TransformerLand is a great American one, and Mandarake is an equally great Japanese one. And finally, eBay. I have a list of saved searches, probably 60-80 different Transformers toys and lines, that I check a minimum of twice a day. You really need to be careful though, what with the MP KO's all over the place. And with eBay, you can get steals if you got the patience.
If you can get specific about which MP's you're hunting first, I can help narrow down your search

Posted by Overloaded on July 8th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CDT
shajaki wrote:So! I thought I's answered this question recently with someone else, and kinda, but not thoroughly. But first, you have a lot in consideration there... what's the actual goal? Total completionist? Character completionist? Mold completionist?Overloaded wrote:Thank you I try to keep up to date
Firstly:
You said you had Prime, Ultra Magnus, and Starscream? Can I assume these are MP-1, MP-2, and MP-3 respectively?
Secondly, where to acquire new:
Keep a close eye on all outlets. Keep up on new releases, and TakaraTomy is reissuing things all the time. Watch import stores like Amiami and HLJ. Normally they are the cheapest option (especially with pre-orders, they are cheaper than when they physically come in stock). Then there's always Hasbro and TRU. They have proven to be difficult to find, expensive, and far and fewer between when compared to their Japanese counterparts. But still, it's a resource. And lastly, if you're uncomfortable with importing then there's always BBTS. Prices are slightly inflated to compensate for them importing stuff themselves, but their POL feature and customer service are top notch.
Where/how to acquire old:
What local resources do you have? For example, I'm a part of a local Facebook group (for the city I live in) that I have gotten some amazing deals from. There's also Kijiji, which is basically a not-shifty version of Craigslist. I just search "transformers" and check it daily. There's some fantastic Used TF sites out there these days too. TransformerLand is a great American one, and Mandarake is an equally great Japanese one. And finally, eBay. I have a list of saved searches, probably 60-80 different Transformers toys and lines, that I check a minimum of twice a day. You really need to be careful though, what with the MP KO's all over the place. And with eBay, you can get steals if you got the patience.
If you can get specific about which MP's you're hunting first, I can help narrow down your search
Thank you

Posted by shajaki on July 9th, 2017 @ 3:21am CDT
No worriesOverloaded wrote:Thank you![]()

Like I said, if you've got some particular ones in mind to start with, I could advise you further. Good luck!
Posted by shajaki on July 9th, 2017 @ 3:05pm CDT
Believe it or not, they have not exhausted their options for variants, and there's ones I still want. Would you buy any of these?
MP-10S (Sleep Mode)
Out of all MP-10's on this list (and that have already been made), this is the one I want the most. Prime has always been subject to being repaint fodder, and I always thought that after Black Convoy and Cab-Magnus, this should be the go-to. And yet, MP-1S is the only one of his kind. For such an iconic moment in the TF franchise, you'd think they'd homage it more.

MP-10G (Generation 2)
You might think "Really? He's barely different from G1 OP". But there is a lot they could do to distinguish him from the G1 look. First and easiest, yellow eyes and G2 insignias. After that, give him his black trailer plastered with his disguise ruining "OPTIMUS PRIME" written on the sides. Now lets get to the deco and new pieces! The deco doesn't need to be any different than the Takara MP-10 (as he should definitely be keeping the darker toy blue) but could have some battle damage'ish paint apps (like Hasbro's first MP-1). He should absolutely have the additional backback and big new guns. And if they really wanted to give it their all, give him a new head sculpt, more sharp and stylized like the comic art. I would simply die if they made that



MP-10D (Battle Damaged)
Styled after his fight with Megatron in TFTM, and before he actually dies, Battle Damaged MP-10. Seems like kind of a long shot, but with the additional BD pieces that MP-36 Megatron came with... you never know. It has been done before, most notably with Hasbro's first release of MP-1.

MP-10U (Ultra Magnus)
The white Prime. Simultaneously loved and hated. For such a staple, how has this gone ignored for so long? There is a KO, but I seriously don't recommend it.

MP-10M (Magna Convoy)
Magna Convoy? Powered Convoy? Delta Magnus? Whatever you want to call this guy, its basically a blue cab'd G1 Optimus Prime. Inspired from Diaclone, this was the first use of the Ultra Magnus mold. We have an MP of the super mode, but much like the white Prime Magnus, I want a blue Prime.


Posted by Kurona on July 9th, 2017 @ 3:45pm CDT
I can't complain myself as the ones I'd want most already exist; Nemesis and SG. Though you know what they should do?
CRAYOLA PRIME




Posted by Burn on July 9th, 2017 @ 4:02pm CDT
Still not sure if I need him in the collection or not. I'm more for collecting main characters rather than repaints and obscure characters.
Posted by Cobotron on July 9th, 2017 @ 4:37pm CDT
Also, totally random pipe dream, but something along the lines of the '07 Movie Leader Night Watch deco would be cool.
Green B.A.P.E. would fill that niche for me, but unfortunately I don't poop money.

Posted by EmirateXaaron on July 9th, 2017 @ 4:57pm CDT
Though, if I had to choose a re-release, I'd definitely choose the Sleep Mode Convoy. That's such a cool MP in my opinion. Sadly, the aftermarket price is very much not cool.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 9th, 2017 @ 5:14pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:09pm CDT
Maybe it hasn't been homaged as much because it's such a morbid, depressing redeco that's based on one of the biggest black marks in the brand's history? I mean, Hasbro practically shot themselves in the foot with the cinematic death of Optimus Prime, in their failing to realize just how much he meant to all those kids who were traumatized by the ordeal. It's not exactly a deco that has a whole lot of marketing appeal.shajaki wrote:LMP-10S (Sleep Mode)
Out of all MP-10's on this list (and that have already been made), this is the one I want the most. Prime has always been subject to being repaint fodder, and I always thought that after Black Convoy and Cab-Magnus, this should be the go-to. And yet, MP-1S is the only one of his kind. For such an iconic moment in the TF franchise, you'd think they'd homage it more.

Posted by Burn on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:15pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:19pm CDT
Think of it from a corporate perspective. Would you want to immortalize one of your most regretful business mistakes, and then flood the market with the physical representation of that constant reminder?Burn wrote:All those "traumatised kids" are now grown adults and it would be an ideal coping mechanism as we can use him to rise from the grave and kick Hot Rod in the head.

Posted by Kurona on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:22pm CDT
Burn wrote:All those "traumatised kids" are now grown adults and it would be an ideal coping mechanism as we can use him to rise from the grave and kick Hot Rod in the head.
Grown adults physically, sure, but in terms of maturity...
Posted by shajaki on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:46pm CDT
I'd rather that than all the BAPE'sKurona wrote:CRAYOLA PRIME![]()
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Your dilemna sounds similar to someone else. See how he overcameBurn wrote:hmmm ... so I went ahead and pre-ordered him.

Of course you wouldCobotron wrote:I know there's a KO, and I've ogled it many times, but I'd be down for an official translucent MP-10.

That's one I missed. I don't usually think about ghost Prime's for some reason. Starscream's sure, but not Prime's

I'm not familiar with that... any pics for reference?EmirateXaaron wrote:If we're talking obscure character repaints, I would love to see a repaint "Action Master" Prime from the last issue of the US Marvel comics run.
steals_your_goats wrote:...sleep mode because in my head he's a zombie version of prime.



Posted by Burn on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:53pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Think of it from a corporate perspective. Would you want to immortalize one of your most regretful business mistakes, and then flood the market with the physical representation of that constant reminder?
It was a mistake in the 80's.
This is 30 years later. Indication in this thread aside, take a look at the number of fan repaints and dioramas there's been over the years. The market potential IS there, even if it's only a limited run.
Kurona wrote:Grown adults physically, sure, but in terms of maturity...
Not every person who grew up with G1 is a Bay-hater.

shajaki wrote:Your dilemna sounds similar to someone else. See how he overcame
awwwwww man. A video? You know how hard it's going to be to find the attention span for a video? Even if it is Thew!

Posted by shajaki on July 9th, 2017 @ 9:21pm CDT
All I see it as, is a thing that happened. And with other silly variant repaints like "Matrix Glow Ultra Magnus" and "Fire Guts God Ginrai", then why not? Also lets not even talk about the silly variant repaints that have nothing to do with anything like YOTH MP-10 and YOTG Soundwave

If they;re willing to capitalize on something like "KissPlayers" then a dead Optimus Prime shouldn't be an issue.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 9th, 2017 @ 9:28pm CDT
"Buy this toy of your childhood hero on his deathbed, kids! Recreate this most depressing moment as your hero's life fades to a weathered corpse! It's bleak, macabre, and only yours for $99.99! Recommended for Age 8 and Up!"shajaki wrote:There's controversy over the Sleep Mode? Seriously?

Posted by shajaki on July 9th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"Buy this toy of your childhood hero on his deathbed, kids! Recreate this most depressing moment as your hero's life fades to a weathered corpse! It's bleak, macabre, and only yours for $99.99! Recommended for Age 8 and Up!"shajaki wrote:There's controversy over the Sleep Mode? Seriously?

Posted by Sabrblade on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CDT
Marvel Zombies is a whole different (and glorious) animal.shajaki wrote:Sabrblade wrote:"Buy this toy of your childhood hero on his deathbed, kids! Recreate this most depressing moment as your hero's life fades to a weathered corpse! It's bleak, macabre, and only yours for $99.99! Recommended for Age 8 and Up!"shajaki wrote:There's controversy over the Sleep Mode? Seriously?

Posted by Burn on July 9th, 2017 @ 10:19pm CDT
shajaki wrote:There's controversy over the Sleep Mode? Seriously?
No, there really REALLY isn't.
Posted by nycPrime on July 10th, 2017 @ 6:00am CDT
Posted by EmirateXaaron on July 11th, 2017 @ 1:56pm CDT
shajaki wrote:I'm not familiar with that... any pics for reference?

COuldn't find any pics online, so I had to scan it in myself.
Bit too minor to really ever warrant any kind of repaint, but I always liked the look of this Prime. That, and I think it looks pretty neat with Wildman's art style. Shame these colors only ever appeared in #80.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT
The Wiki had one:EmirateXaaron wrote:COuldn't find any pics online, so I had to scan it in myself.

Posted by EmirateXaaron on July 11th, 2017 @ 2:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Wiki had one:EmirateXaaron wrote:COuldn't find any pics online, so I had to scan it in myself.
Wow, I feel dumb. Don't know why I didn't check there.

Posted by shajaki on July 11th, 2017 @ 3:37pm CDT
Y'know... that's pretty damn close to the core robot of Powermaster Optimus Prime..EmirateXaaron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The Wiki had one:EmirateXaaron wrote:COuldn't find any pics online, so I had to scan it in myself.
Wow, I feel dumb. Don't know why I didn't check there.

Red eyes and red forehead thingy is all you'd need.

Posted by Bumblebee21 on July 12th, 2017 @ 8:50pm CDT