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Video Review for Beast Combiner Optimus Primal Toy from Transformers Rise of the Beasts

Posted by william-james88 Mar 26, 2023 at 10:29pm CDT 43,183 views
With the new Transformers Rise of the Beasts gimmick toys out now, we have a review to give you a better look at the toy in case you are curious about it.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Finally, we have some official, non-side-released, Rise of the Beasts toys to check out. Beast Combiner Optimus Primal with Skullcruncher is a fun toy, borrowing heavily from the Spark Armor concept from Cyberverse while bringing something new to the table. You really have to like the wink and a nod homage to the very first Beast Wars release from back in the day. While targeted towards younger fans, there's more than a little here for older fans as well.



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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 26, 2023
Reminds me of the larger-sized Spark Armor toys from Cyberverse.
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 26, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:Reminds me of the larger-sized Spark Armor toys from Cyberverse.


You and me both.
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Comment by william-james88 Mar 26, 2023
This is more of a clarification than news, but judging from the comments on social media, it seems it bears to be mentioned. While a multipacks of deluxe class figures for the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line have been revealed and even found, we are still getting the same deluxe figures as individual releases. Not only have we had listings for the single deluxe releases, but we also have shipping manifests showing that these single releases have arrived at US ports. This was confirmed by TFW2005 user Silver Optimus.

Which means that on Target shelves, you will have deluxe class toys from the 3 packs that will also be on shelves sold individually at the same time. If anyone is curious as to why Target would get have the same items on shelves at the same time, it is most probably due to the film delays. While the individual deluxe releases (by that I mean the non SS deluxe Airazor, and the Wheeljack with glasses toy we've seen) were all scheduled for a 2022 release, Hasbro is only distributing them now. The Target exclusive 3 packs may have always been scheduled for 2023 (since 2022 still had a steady stream of Buzzworthy Bumblebee releases) and now everything is coming to shelves at the same time. There should be no difference between the decos. What is happening here is the same thing that happened with the Cyberverse deluxe 3 pack, except since that one was released as scheduled, the 3 pack was released after the individual releases.

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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 27, 2023
Toys R Us charge a whopping 30$CAN more for that Cyberverse 3 pack than if the deluxes were individually sold. Meaning you pay for a "phantom" deluxe.

So I wonder what the price of the individual ROTB deluxes will be and how much that 3 pack would cost at Toys R Us? That is, if they bother ordering the damn thing in the first place.
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 27, 2023
I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Mar 27, 2023
Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster? :lol:
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal Mar 27, 2023
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives
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Comment by william-james88 Mar 27, 2023
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster? :lol:


If you mean that Crocodile, then no, I am going gaga over it too
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 27, 2023
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives


I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster? :lol:


Which one? There are several out now with more to come.
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 27, 2023
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:/:)

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I would be more into it if that mold didn't get reused so much during Siege. Surprised Takara aren't rolling out those Gashapon Microns from Prime.
Re: Video Review for Beast Combiner Optimus Primal Toy from Transformers Rise of the Beasts (view post)
Comment by Emerje Mar 27, 2023
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives


I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 27, 2023
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives


I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje


Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.
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Comment by Emerje Mar 28, 2023
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives


I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje


Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 28, 2023
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives


I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje


Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje


They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.
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Comment by Emerje Mar 28, 2023
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje


They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

Manga does have that pull and it follows the same demographic. In fact it pretty regularly shows up in the weekly ads to get people into stores to buy it, including this week:

target manga.JPG

My local store has one full shelf section dedicated to it.

Emerje
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 28, 2023
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje


They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

Manga does have that pull and it follows the same demographic. In fact it pretty regularly shows up in the weekly ads to get people into stores to buy it, including this week:

target manga.JPG

My local store has one full shelf section dedicated to it.

Emerje


It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.

Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.
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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 28, 2023
-Kanrabat- wrote:It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.
It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.
Unfortunately, the problem with how comics and animation are viewed in the West is the exact same problem with how Transformers is viewed in Japan. In other words, Japan sees Transformers media as kids stuff aimed primarily at a very young audience, hence why every single Japanese-made Transformers anime (The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Beast Wars Second, Beast Wars Neo, Car Robots, Legends of the Microns, Superlink, Galaxy Force, and Go!) have all been made with a grade school-aged audience in mind, and why many Japanese Transformers dubs (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Prime, and Robots in Disguise 2015) have been dumbed down from their original English versions. It's all because of the belief in Japan that piloted robots are for more grown up audiences while living robots are goofy kiddie stuff.
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 28, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.
It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.
Unfortunately, the problem with how comics and animation are viewed in the West is the exact same problem with how Transformers is viewed in Japan. In other words, Japan sees Transformers media as kids stuff aimed primarily at a very young audience, hence why every single Japanese-made Transformers anime (The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Beast Wars Second, Beast Wars Neo, Car Robots, Legends of the Microns, Superlink, Galaxy Force, and Go!) have all been made with a grade school-aged audience in mind, and why many Japanese Transformers dubs (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Prime, and Robots in Disguise 2015) have been dumbed down from their original English versions. It's all because of the belief in Japan that piloted robots are for more grown up audiences while living robots are goofy kiddie stuff.


It's hilarious to see the "same problem" being flipped over East-West. :lol:
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