Cyberpath wrote:LG34 Mindwipe -- some first impressions.
Face-sculpt is really nice. Spot-on and looks kind of evil. I appreciate Takara not "settling" for Hasbro's sculpt (which was already pretty close) and taking this extra step.
First off he passes the "can hold his gun with two hands" test.
Legs are clunky but are kind of like Megatron's from the side, which is rather nice.
Transformation felt simplistic the first time, but I appreciated it more when I had transformed him back to bat, without the instructions. I like how the large red bat wings become purple legs in robot mode. And he still has proportional wings as a robot.
Except for Skullcruncher maybe, the Titans Return figures have such innovative, MP-like, transformation steps.
The lack of ankle tilt on these guys though makes it difficult to balance them on one leg, like a running pose. Because they're molded in an angle.
I don't understand or particularly care for the use of rubber. Does anyone know how to twist rubber into the proper shape/angle?
A little disappointed that you can't give him a half-beast half-man mode like Skullcruncher & Weirdwolf; but on the other hand HasTak made this very easy --
Bat mode in the cartoon was cooler looking. But I still like it. And how Vorath can tab to his back like in Rebirth.
I don't like the wrong colour limbs on Vorath though, bought some paint to fix it, I might.
Mindwipe has less articulation than Skull & Wolf in beast-mode.
The pilot hatch reminds me of the transtectors of the Destron Headmaster Juniors from the "Masterforce" cartoon.
But hands down, the coolest feature in LG34 is the mind-control abilities.. I don't know how Takara did it, but it's really neat!
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Comment by william-james88
Jan 8, 2017
Am I the only one who MUCH preffers the Hasbro version of Soundwave. I love the shoulder detail and how the central tape section is emphasised.
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Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Jan 8, 2017
Takara Mindwipe looks better in colour scheme thna Hasbro's but it makes those hinges in the wings much more noticable in bat mode. Those legs still look pretty bad and overall I've never been fond of G1 Mindwipe's design (blocky robot with halloween costume wings) but it looks a decent figure for those who like the G1 design.
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I prefer Takara's tape door, yet Hasbro's shoulders have the painted detail... ultimate version would be a mix/match.
On the fence about the colour of his visor though... toy and comic accurate Hasbro or cartoon accurate Takara... oh well I guess when Hasbro MP Soundwave shows up I'll have my yellow visor fix there.
Edit: btw, if anyone wants toy accurate red eyes for PMOP/LG Ginrai, LG Soundwave's Titan Master's visor lines up perfectly
Comment by prjkt
Jan 8, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who MUCH preffers the Hasbro version of Soundwave. I love the shoulder detail and how the central tape section is emphasised.
I prefer Takara's tape door, yet Hasbro's shoulders have the painted detail... ultimate version would be a mix/match.
On the fence about the colour of his visor though... toy and comic accurate Hasbro or cartoon accurate Takara... oh well I guess when Hasbro MP Soundwave shows up I'll have my yellow visor fix there.
Edit: btw, if anyone wants toy accurate red eyes for PMOP/LG Ginrai, LG Soundwave's Titan Master's visor lines up perfectly
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I've been using Clobber for red eyes on PMOP. The eye is small enough on him that you get that darkened helmet look that he sometimes had in the comics. Plus, Clobber is only $5.

Comment by Railbomb
Jan 8, 2017
prjkt wrote:william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who MUCH preffers the Hasbro version of Soundwave. I love the shoulder detail and how the central tape section is emphasised.
I prefer Takara's tape door, yet Hasbro's shoulders have the painted detail... ultimate version would be a mix/match.
On the fence about the colour of his visor though... toy and comic accurate Hasbro or cartoon accurate Takara... oh well I guess when Hasbro MP Soundwave shows up I'll have my yellow visor fix there.
Edit: btw, if anyone wants toy accurate red eyes for PMOP/LG Ginrai, LG Soundwave's Titan Master's visor lines up perfectly
I've been using Clobber for red eyes on PMOP. The eye is small enough on him that you get that darkened helmet look that he sometimes had in the comics. Plus, Clobber is only $5.


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Why not insert a poll on SW?
Comment by fenrir72
Jan 8, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who MUCH preffers the Hasbro version of Soundwave. I love the shoulder detail and how the central tape section is emphasised.
Why not insert a poll on SW?
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Comment by Cyberpath
Jan 8, 2017
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Those eyes/face looks really sweet, like it with the comic shadows. I much prefer Takara Mindwipe, however I got Hasbro one because if price. If it is a character I really like then I go Takara. Mindwipe is very close but so far I have fought the temptation.
Comment by Hero Alpha
Jan 9, 2017
Railbomb wrote:prjkt wrote:william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who MUCH preffers the Hasbro version of Soundwave. I love the shoulder detail and how the central tape section is emphasised.
I prefer Takara's tape door, yet Hasbro's shoulders have the painted detail... ultimate version would be a mix/match.
On the fence about the colour of his visor though... toy and comic accurate Hasbro or cartoon accurate Takara... oh well I guess when Hasbro MP Soundwave shows up I'll have my yellow visor fix there.
Edit: btw, if anyone wants toy accurate red eyes for PMOP/LG Ginrai, LG Soundwave's Titan Master's visor lines up perfectly
I've been using Clobber for red eyes on PMOP. The eye is small enough on him that you get that darkened helmet look that he sometimes had in the comics. Plus, Clobber is only $5.
Those eyes/face looks really sweet, like it with the comic shadows. I much prefer Takara Mindwipe, however I got Hasbro one because if price. If it is a character I really like then I go Takara. Mindwipe is very close but so far I have fought the temptation.
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Comment by Insurgent
Jan 9, 2017
For Vorath holding onto Mindwipe's head, is that just his hands plugged into his head, or has something folded out for him to stand on as well?
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Comment by Cyberpath
Jan 9, 2017
Some thoughts about LG32 Chromedome...
Cool robot-mode. I like that he can pull off the heroic cartoon pose with the knees slightly arched back.
Face-sculpt is great.. faithful to the Japanese series. I'm a fan of "Rebirth" though; and Hasbro's sculpt feels closer to that. It's fine since both versions have faceplates (and even in the American series there were several characters with two head designs.)

I went with Takara partly because of the arguably nicer colours of the body.
Wish he had twin guns instead of the seat-gun, or in addition to it. Like the original toy and cartoon. The gun doesn't look much like either.
But the tank mode is pretty nifty.
Because of his chest he can hold his gun with two hands only like this, but it doesn't look too bad --
Transformation is fun and cool, my favourite part is the leg panels. Nice one.
The car mode is great, better than I expected actually. Love the golden rims!
But the coolest part is the driver's cabin. Yes, all the TR figures have this, but somehow it's the best in the car because it's a very basic Transformer/Autobot mode. And also the hatch is so luxurious.
His little drone buddy thing, Moguru, also has some swanky paint. That gold application on the drill is nice.
I like the canopy and those sculpted wheel details on the sides.
I like LG32 more than I had expected. And the chocolate / white chocolate colour scheme is rather neat.
Cool robot-mode. I like that he can pull off the heroic cartoon pose with the knees slightly arched back.
Face-sculpt is great.. faithful to the Japanese series. I'm a fan of "Rebirth" though; and Hasbro's sculpt feels closer to that. It's fine since both versions have faceplates (and even in the American series there were several characters with two head designs.)

I went with Takara partly because of the arguably nicer colours of the body.
Wish he had twin guns instead of the seat-gun, or in addition to it. Like the original toy and cartoon. The gun doesn't look much like either.
But the tank mode is pretty nifty.
Because of his chest he can hold his gun with two hands only like this, but it doesn't look too bad --
Transformation is fun and cool, my favourite part is the leg panels. Nice one.
The car mode is great, better than I expected actually. Love the golden rims!
But the coolest part is the driver's cabin. Yes, all the TR figures have this, but somehow it's the best in the car because it's a very basic Transformer/Autobot mode. And also the hatch is so luxurious.

His little drone buddy thing, Moguru, also has some swanky paint. That gold application on the drill is nice.
I like the canopy and those sculpted wheel details on the sides.
I like LG32 more than I had expected. And the chocolate / white chocolate colour scheme is rather neat.
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Comment by Cyberpath
Jan 9, 2017
Arms plugged to the back of the bat's head.Insurgent wrote:For Vorath holding onto Mindwipe's head, is that just his hands plugged into his head, or has something folded out for him to stand on as well?
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cheers
Comment by Insurgent
Jan 9, 2017
Cyberpath wrote:Arms plugged to the back of the bat's head.Insurgent wrote:For Vorath holding onto Mindwipe's head, is that just his hands plugged into his head, or has something folded out for him to stand on as well?
cheers
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Comment by galvatron00
Jan 9, 2017
Great photos as always Cyberpath!! Makes me wish I just went for the Takara versions all along.. 

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Comment by Cyberpath
Jan 9, 2017
Thanks! Takara takes longer to release though..
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Comment by galvatron00
Jan 9, 2017
My ninja patience level is low. Ask CobotronCyberpath wrote:Thanks! Takara takes longer to release though..


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Comment by Cyberpath
Jan 9, 2017
Vorath (Wipe) combined with Skullcruncher's Batora. And Grax (Skull) with Mindwipe's Servant.
Wonder why they didn't make Skullcruncher's drone in his colour scheme, like how it is with all the other releases.
And.. Tankette & Moguru as combiner legs..

Wonder why they didn't make Skullcruncher's drone in his colour scheme, like how it is with all the other releases.
And.. Tankette & Moguru as combiner legs..

itscramtastic wrote:My ninja patience level is low. Ask CobotronCyberpath wrote:Thanks! Takara takes longer to release though..![]()

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I really love the Takara Chromedome as well. But prefer the Rebirth face on the Hasbro, so I got both. I usually keep Takara one in robot mode and switch heads sometimes. Then keep Hasbro one in vehicle mode. Also a perk of having both is two guns like you mentioned, they are slightly diff colours though:


I do really like the gold rims and thought about switching them over but they look too good even in robot mode on the Takara one. Like you pointed out; the inside where the TM drives has nice looking silver paint.
Comment by Hero Alpha
Jan 9, 2017
I really love the Takara Chromedome as well. But prefer the Rebirth face on the Hasbro, so I got both. I usually keep Takara one in robot mode and switch heads sometimes. Then keep Hasbro one in vehicle mode. Also a perk of having both is two guns like you mentioned, they are slightly diff colours though:


I do really like the gold rims and thought about switching them over but they look too good even in robot mode on the Takara one. Like you pointed out; the inside where the TM drives has nice looking silver paint.
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Comment by ScottyP
Jan 9, 2017
Idk if I missed the Ginrai discussion or not, but it's pretty swell. The heel rockers are very finicky, kinda have to pose him and then get them down as far as you can. Hasn't fallen over on me but feels like it could with only minor interference. Outside of that the toy is a complete stunner. The Ginrai TM looks freaking great for such a tiny dude. Plus, I missed the whole "has matching guns thing" at some point so that was a nice surprise. They combine for some reason, might be pointed out in the instructions I didn't read.
I'd grab this one soon if you want it, or wait for the inevitable second run over the summer. I don't spring for many Takara leaders but this was a smart and worthwhile exception
I'd grab this one soon if you want it, or wait for the inevitable second run over the summer. I don't spring for many Takara leaders but this was a smart and worthwhile exception

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Aaaaaaaaaand iirc, of the TF Legends line, only Arcee got a second release. But then again, this is Convoy .Ginrai we are speaking of.
Comment by fenrir72
Jan 9, 2017
ScottyP wrote:Idk if I missed the Ginrai discussion or not, but it's pretty swell. The heel rockers are very finicky, kinda have to pose him and then get them down as far as you can. Hasn't fallen over on me but feels like it could with only minor interference. Outside of that the toy is a complete stunner. The Ginrai TM looks freaking great for such a tiny dude. Plus, I missed the whole "has matching guns thing" at some point so that was a nice surprise. They combine for some reason, might be pointed out in the instructions I didn't read.
I'd grab this one soon if you want it, or wait for the inevitable second run over the summer. I don't spring for many Takara leaders but this was a smart and worthwhile exception
Aaaaaaaaaand iirc, of the TF Legends line, only Arcee got a second release. But then again, this is Convoy .Ginrai we are speaking of.
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Comment by primalxconvoy
Jan 9, 2017
Video link to Soundwave comparison broken on main news sure page. Please fix.
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Are you sure? I just checked it and it is working good
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jan 9, 2017
primalxconvoy wrote:Video link to Soundwave comparison broken on main news sure page. Please fix.
Are you sure? I just checked it and it is working good