2010 Tokyo Winter Wonder Festival - Limited Edition Fallen Figure Revealed

Blurrz wrote:Yikes, I was wrong. It's exactly the freaking same as the Target Exclusive! Guess I have to eat my hat...

just go out and get a nacho hat wth dip in the top!! a hat that's fun to eat!!!

Gotta say i'm pleased that this figure is so similar (if different at all). When the G1 repaint of Movie Arcee came out, it was vastly different and as such, a neccessity. It was pricy of course for a deluxe, but worth it in my opinion. This figure on the other hand was stresing me as I, until now, was expecting a new paint scheme (and being a class larger than Arcee, presumably more expensive). A welcome relief for my checking account.

I saw it in Takashimaya, Orchard Road (singapore) last year December..

Wow. That's really lame actually.

Blurrz wrote:I actually think it might be clear orange...

Yea it looks that way.. its either the lighting or its clear orange.. I have the Burning Hasbro figure and its no way its as bright or saturated

If it's transcluscent bits I might have to look into it.

It's possible they took the photo with him sitting on something lighted from underneath, maybe that's why he's transparent looking. There's one way to tell though - Somebody out there who has the Target figure needs to hold a flashlight up to it and see if it shines through!

Yep, the Japanese text confirms that he has "special clear parts".

OMG! I must have this amazing super-rare Japanese TakaraTomy exclusive. It's way better than the stupid Hasblow version!

UltraPrimal wrote:OMG! I must have this amazing super-rare Japanese TakaraTomy exclusive. It's way better than the stupid Hasblow version!

I wouldn't that touch that post if I were you guys...

Still, this is rather surprising compared to the exclusive of 2007. The more reason for me to ignore it initially, but to drool over it should I see it for a reasonable price. Hey, I'm a sucker for translucent parts

My Target already has the exclusives on clearance. I might get one for bashing.

Diem wrote:Yep, the Japanese text confirms that he has "special clear parts".

It's possible the text is referring to the "Slide-out Energy Absortion Panels".

On closer inspection and comparisonn with our (can i say our?) galleries, the figure does indeed appear to have a transluscent base:

compared with


I haven't quite decided if I want the figure or not, I'll have to see a small gallery or have more info I guess.

I think this is a big no for me. It's not distinctive enough from the Target version to justify the probably hefty price tag.

The great pumpkin strikes back!

This will be the same as the Target exclusive. Bet it.

Whats the big deal about clear plastic ??? The ghost Starscream was cool because it was actually a representation from the G1 storyline. But all the other clear plastic figures are silly and a waste of money.

Rated X wrote:Whats the big deal about clear plastic ??? The ghost Starscream was cool because it was actually a representation from the G1 storyline. But all the other clear plastic figures are silly and a waste of money.

Mirage?

Club Combiner?

...and for that matter, in the realm of toy collecting, at what point have we crossed a line when it comes to wasting money?

Rated X wrote:Whats the big deal about clear plastic ??? The ghost Starscream was cool because it was actually a representation from the G1 storyline. But all the other clear plastic figures are silly and a waste of money.

I suppose you think that actual windows on the toys is silly.

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:Whats the big deal about clear plastic ??? The ghost Starscream was cool because it was actually a representation from the G1 storyline. But all the other clear plastic figures are silly and a waste of money.

Mirage?

Club Combiner?

...and for that matter, in the realm of toy collecting, at what point have we crossed a line when it comes to wasting money?

I think you misunderstood my question. What Im trying to say is that the clear plastic has no purpose other than to look cool. Mirage was actually invisible when using his special power. He never had a see through state giving him a ghost appearance. Dont know the story behind the "club combinder", My thing is G1. I just believe the clear plastic is over rated. An excuse to make money from those who have embraced the idea as "elite". Inflation occurs when everyone buys into it.

Rated X wrote:I just believe the clear plastic is over rated. An excuse to make money from those who have embraced the idea as "elite". Inflation occurs when everyone buys into it.

You act like those of us who buy these things live in some version of a Lady Gaga song, riding around in a limo, spilling more booze than we actually drink.

Look, the truth is...

that is very, very true.

But more to the point, why do you care about how much those toys cost if you...well, don't care for those toys?

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:I just believe the clear plastic is over rated. An excuse to make money from those who have embraced the idea as "elite". Inflation occurs when everyone buys into it.

You act like those of us who buy these things live in some version of a Lady Gaga song, riding around in a limo, spilling more booze than we actually drink.

Look, the truth is...

that is very, very true.

But more to the point, why do you care about how much those toys cost if you...well, don't care for those toys?

Well my original question was how is the clear plastic justified in the storyline ???

The price issue was just a side question. We could mold the figures in candy paint or bowling ball patterns like the chevy impalas in rap videos. That would probally look cool too. But where do we draw the line when it comes to "purpose" ???

same thing as the target exlusive damn that sucks

why didnt they release this one with the staff he had in the movie?

and if its clear orange plastic then that just sucks cause clear plastic is softer and easier to break

Rated X wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:I just believe the clear plastic is over rated. An excuse to make money from those who have embraced the idea as "elite". Inflation occurs when everyone buys into it.

You act like those of us who buy these things live in some version of a Lady Gaga song, riding around in a limo, spilling more booze than we actually drink.

Look, the truth is...

that is very, very true.

But more to the point, why do you care about how much those toys cost if you...well, don't care for those toys?

Well my original question was how is the clear plastic justified in the storyline ???

The price issue was just a side question. We could mold the figures in candy paint or bowling ball patterns like the chevy impalas in rap videos. That would probally look cool too. But where do we draw the line when it comes to "purpose" ???

why does it need a purpose? We're TOY collectors, isn't it just supposed to be fun?

Counterpunch wrote:You act like those of us who buy these things live in some version of a Lady Gaga song, riding around in a limo, spilling more booze than we actually drink.

Look, the truth is...

that is very, very true.

We wear monocles too. Don't forget that.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:You act like those of us who buy these things live in some version of a Lady Gaga song, riding around in a limo, spilling more booze than we actually drink.

Look, the truth is...

that is very, very true.

We wear monocles too. Don't forget that.

*puts on top hat, grabs cane and swings*

Rated X wrote:The price issue was just a side question. We could mold the figures in candy paint or bowling ball patterns like the chevy impalas in rap videos. That would probally look cool too. But where do we draw the line when it comes to "purpose" ???

What's this "We" stuff?

You drew your own line. You know what you want and thus you don't have to buy the things you don't want.

But as for those of us who have yet to draw a line in the sand, we don't need you to define what is and isn't a waste of money for us.

The existence of these toys doesn't take anything from you. Why do we need a group decision on when to collectively put our foot down? I personally think that half the crap on the shelves right now is just that...crap. But my personal opinion on the matter shouldn't ruin a kid's fun with Voyager Optimus repaint #89, nor should it take away a parent's choice to buy a more simple, easy to transform toy (Fast Action Battler).

The point becomes, why are you so distraught over toys? Just enjoy them/what you have.

Ahhhhh!!! Well I feel better now, how 'bout you?

And for the record, not a big fan of the fallen figure anyways and I like this even less. I remember when Wonderfest items were cool.

Geekee1 wrote:

I'm still pissed off I missed out on that bargain!
But one day one day I'll just snap and spend that 300.

Dead Metal wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:

I'm still pissed off I missed out on that bargain!
But one day one day I'll just snap and spend that 300.

you ain't the only one.

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:The price issue was just a side question. We could mold the figures in candy paint or bowling ball patterns like the chevy impalas in rap videos. That would probally look cool too. But where do we draw the line when it comes to "purpose" ???

What's this "We" stuff?

You drew your own line. You know what you want and thus you don't have to buy the things you don't want.

But as for those of us who have yet to draw a line in the sand, we don't need you to define what is and isn't a waste of money for us.

The existence of these toys doesn't take anything from you. Why do we need a group decision on when to collectively put our foot down? I personally think that half the crap on the shelves right now is just that...crap. But my personal opinion on the matter shouldn't ruin a kid's fun with Voyager Optimus repaint #89, nor should it take away a parent's choice to buy a more simple, easy to transform toy (Fast Action Battler).

The point becomes, why are you so distraught over toys? Just enjoy them/what you have.

After the movie in 2007 I pulled out my childhood G1 collection out of the closet and started collecting again. So many things have changed as I just dont remember any character getting more than one toy with the exception of targetmaster and powermaster upgrades. Now we have Leader, Voyager, Deluxe, FAB, Human alliance, etc.

And then we have my personal favorite: exclusives (LOL)


Im not sure who started the whole exclusives craze in the 90's back in Japan. Some of them look pretty cool. Some of them are kind of annoying for various reasons. Sometimes because of the price. And sometimes for the silly gimmicks people will come up with to make money. Im not trying to offend anyone who likes some of these gimmicks. But for me personally, If they intend to come up with a gimmick that prices 100 bucks for something brand spankin new, they need to come harder...

Rated X wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:The price issue was just a side question. We could mold the figures in candy paint or bowling ball patterns like the chevy impalas in rap videos. That would probally look cool too. But where do we draw the line when it comes to "purpose" ???

What's this "We" stuff?

You drew your own line. You know what you want and thus you don't have to buy the things you don't want.

But as for those of us who have yet to draw a line in the sand, we don't need you to define what is and isn't a waste of money for us.

The existence of these toys doesn't take anything from you. Why do we need a group decision on when to collectively put our foot down? I personally think that half the crap on the shelves right now is just that...crap. But my personal opinion on the matter shouldn't ruin a kid's fun with Voyager Optimus repaint #89, nor should it take away a parent's choice to buy a more simple, easy to transform toy (Fast Action Battler).

The point becomes, why are you so distraught over toys? Just enjoy them/what you have.

After the movie in 2007 I pulled out my childhood G1 collection out of the closet and started collecting again. So many things have changed as I just dont remember any character getting more than one toy with the exception of targetmaster and powermaster upgrades. Now we have Leader, Voyager, Deluxe, FAB, Human alliance, etc.

And then we have my personal favorite: exclusives (LOL)


Im not sure who started the whole exclusives craze in the 90's back in Japan. Some of them look pretty cool. Some of them are kind of annoying for various reasons. Sometimes because of the price. And sometimes for the silly gimmicks people will come up with to make money. Im not trying to offend anyone who likes some of these gimmicks. But for me personally, If they intend to come up with a gimmick that prices 100 bucks for something brand spankin new, they need to come harder...

Understood, me personally, I got back into collecting around the R.I.D. stage(if you don't have any R.I.D. you should look into it, especially Megatron.) Things have changed a lot since back when we were kids, some for the better, some not. I mean, look at Masterpiece, that line is pure awesome, and looking back on what I had as a kid, I never would have imagined such,. The point is, yes things have changed, yes prices are different. But we're not the kids we used to be relying on what we got for christmas and how much money we saved raking lawns. We have different incomes, different preferences and different reasons for collecting now. So just enjoy it, that's what it's all about, having fun. If something doesn't strike your fancy, leave it be. Something that is trash to you may be a jewel to somebody else and vice versa. Just reclaim your childhood, because that's really what this is all about.(at least to me.)

Forgotten wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Rated X wrote:The price issue was just a side question. We could mold the figures in candy paint or bowling ball patterns like the chevy impalas in rap videos. That would probally look cool too. But where do we draw the line when it comes to "purpose" ???

What's this "We" stuff?

You drew your own line. You know what you want and thus you don't have to buy the things you don't want.

But as for those of us who have yet to draw a line in the sand, we don't need you to define what is and isn't a waste of money for us.

The existence of these toys doesn't take anything from you. Why do we need a group decision on when to collectively put our foot down? I personally think that half the crap on the shelves right now is just that...crap. But my personal opinion on the matter shouldn't ruin a kid's fun with Voyager Optimus repaint #89, nor should it take away a parent's choice to buy a more simple, easy to transform toy (Fast Action Battler).

The point becomes, why are you so distraught over toys? Just enjoy them/what you have.

After the movie in 2007 I pulled out my childhood G1 collection out of the closet and started collecting again. So many things have changed as I just dont remember any character getting more than one toy with the exception of targetmaster and powermaster upgrades. Now we have Leader, Voyager, Deluxe, FAB, Human alliance, etc.

And then we have my personal favorite: exclusives (LOL)


Im not sure who started the whole exclusives craze in the 90's back in Japan. Some of them look pretty cool. Some of them are kind of annoying for various reasons. Sometimes because of the price. And sometimes for the silly gimmicks people will come up with to make money. Im not trying to offend anyone who likes some of these gimmicks. But for me personally, If they intend to come up with a gimmick that prices 100 bucks for something brand spankin new, they need to come harder...

Understood, me personally, I got back into collecting around the R.I.D. stage(if you don't have any R.I.D. you should look into it, especially Megatron.) Things have changed a lot since back when we were kids, some for the better, some not. I mean, look at Masterpiece, that line is pure awesome, and looking back on what I had as a kid, I never would have imagined such,. The point is, yes things have changed, yes prices are different. But we're not the kids we used to be relying on what we got for christmas and how much money we saved raking lawns. We have different incomes, different preferences and different reasons for collecting now. So just enjoy it, that's what it's all about, having fun. If something doesn't strike your fancy, leave it be. Something that is trash to you may be a jewel to somebody else and vice versa. Just reclaim your childhood, because that's really what this is all about.(at least to me.)

You are 100% correct my friend