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Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022
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Comment by Randomhero
Dec 2, 2021
When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
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Comment by Munkky
Dec 3, 2021
I'd be down for a new Alpha Trion, and I've never owned a version of the Scourge mould but have heard great things about it. Orion I can take or leave, he would probably end up on the "Didn't really want it but it was in a twin-pack with someone I did want" pile with Lifeline and Maximal Skywarp.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Dec 3, 2021
Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.
Now if that's an "exclusive" that will be as easy to get as the Siege Refraktor trio boxset, that would be great.
Now if that's an "exclusive" that will be as easy to get as the Siege Refraktor trio boxset, that would be great.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022
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Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:
Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:
- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 3, 2021
Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:
Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:
- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022
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This right here... It happens all over too..
Comment by Cyber Bishop
Dec 3, 2021
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
This right here... It happens all over too..
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022
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I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
Comment by sol magnus
Dec 3, 2021
-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.
I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
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Plus, there is no way to easily adjust a mold to turn a 2 part bicep or thigh into a single part. It would basically require new arm and leg molds.
Of course there is a really easy way to make each limb a single piece on your own. That would be called super glue.
Comment by TF-fan kev777
Dec 3, 2021
sol magnus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.
I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
Plus, there is no way to easily adjust a mold to turn a 2 part bicep or thigh into a single part. It would basically require new arm and leg molds.
Of course there is a really easy way to make each limb a single piece on your own. That would be called super glue.
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It's the bane of modern society.
Hell, it's even from before the internet was a thing.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Dec 3, 2021
Cyber Bishop wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
This right here... It happens all over too..
It's the bane of modern society.
Hell, it's even from before the internet was a thing.
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Would love to get an official release of Alpha Trion!
Comment by TK415
Dec 3, 2021
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:
Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:
- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Would love to get an official release of Alpha Trion!
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Comment by cloudballoon
Dec 3, 2021
I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation & plastic quality. So Orion Pax is a big miss for me, that mold is just not worth double dipping on.
I have the triple changing Alpha Trion and while it's a fun toy, it's nowhere near accurate in the looks department, so I look forward to seeing actual reveal of this anouncement. If it's much better, I'll bite the 2-pack price.
I have the triple changing Alpha Trion and while it's a fun toy, it's nowhere near accurate in the looks department, so I look forward to seeing actual reveal of this anouncement. If it's much better, I'll bite the 2-pack price.
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This is G1 Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation), as far as existing toys go.
The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.
I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Dec 3, 2021
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
This is G1 Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation), as far as existing toys go.
The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.
Now on this front, you're just plain delusional.cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
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Comment by TulioDude
Dec 3, 2021
I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?
Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
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Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Dec 3, 2021
Thrilling 30 doesn't count IMO, ESPECIALLY if you're going for the G1 cartoon. And PotP... while that would be ideal since it's the actual cartoon Orion Pax robot mode, I don't know that they'd be able to sell the Orion Pax part standalone. And I somehow doubt they'd do either a full Leader or a brand-new standalone Orion mold as part of a 2-pack like this.TulioDude wrote:I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?
Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
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I don't disagree that SS86 Kup got a closer body type & styling to the toon look than the Generations Orion Pax, like, by miles. But the Generations toy is an original take on Orion Pax, not a repaint/redeco, and I love it for the originality. The transformation's fun and quite unique too. I thought that Generations Orion Pax's alt mode is conceptually closer to Optimus Prime's (Cybertron OR Earth) truck than Kup's alt mode as well. So I was like "Yes! Finally Hasbro got (retcon?) Orion Pax right!" when it came out.
So if you let me have only one Orion Pax figure out to the existing ones + this rumored SS86 Kup redeco, I'd STILL pick the 1st Generations version.
Comment by cloudballoon
Dec 3, 2021
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
This is Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe, as far as existing bodies go.
The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.Now on this front, you're just plain delusional.cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
I don't disagree that SS86 Kup got a closer body type & styling to the toon look than the Generations Orion Pax, like, by miles. But the Generations toy is an original take on Orion Pax, not a repaint/redeco, and I love it for the originality. The transformation's fun and quite unique too. I thought that Generations Orion Pax's alt mode is conceptually closer to Optimus Prime's (Cybertron OR Earth) truck than Kup's alt mode as well. So I was like "Yes! Finally Hasbro got (retcon?) Orion Pax right!" when it came out.
So if you let me have only one Orion Pax figure out to the existing ones + this rumored SS86 Kup redeco, I'd STILL pick the 1st Generations version.
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I would add the plastic quality, too. To the point that I laughed out loud at just that. Having gone back to Prime Wars figures in several cases, none of them have the level of 'plastic quality' as anything in WFC save for perhaps Fangry, who's a floppy a mess as anything I have from any of those previous lines.
I guess we all have our preferences, but I don't even see how the plastic quality is arguable.
Comment by sol magnus
Dec 3, 2021
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I would add the plastic quality, too. To the point that I laughed out loud at just that. Having gone back to Prime Wars figures in several cases, none of them have the level of 'plastic quality' as anything in WFC save for perhaps Fangry, who's a floppy a mess as anything I have from any of those previous lines.
I guess we all have our preferences, but I don't even see how the plastic quality is arguable.
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Comment by william-james88
Dec 3, 2021
The plastic type they used for Gen (T30) Orion Pax was pretty bad. very light with breakage points at the some hinges. I liked the look (especially in car mode) but that toy will not be missed by me.
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It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 3, 2021
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),
Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
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Feel free to smack me. I blame overload and the fact that FoC toys were lingering at the same time T30 came out. The point that it doesn't really work for resembling cartoon Orion still stands tho.
However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Dec 4, 2021
Faulty memory, that's why; I was getting it mixed up with the WFC Optimus from 2010. My bad.Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
Feel free to smack me. I blame overload and the fact that FoC toys were lingering at the same time T30 came out. The point that it doesn't really work for resembling cartoon Orion still stands tho.However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 4, 2021
Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
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When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
Comment by sol magnus
Dec 4, 2021
Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
