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May 15, 2015 at 3:07pm CDT
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Comment by Agamemnon
May 15, 2015
And I'll post a pic of the box early next week... 
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Yea I'm getting both WillyJ! Takara version with minimus for my IDW classics shelf, And Hasbro version for my season 3 G1 classics shelf. I'll put the little alpha Trion with Generations Metroplex.
I agree if Takara's product are released first I would've skipped a lot of Hasbro releases.
Comment by mooncake623
May 15, 2015
william-james88 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:
Also I can't believe I'm going to pay the same thing for Hasbro Magnus (46.99@BBTS) and Takara Magnus(47.35@ amiami).
So your getting both? And yeah, with those prices, BBTS should hopefully start giving discounts on preorders as well, or little bonuses (like with videogames) because at this rate, fans are savy enough to shift towards cheaper venues. I am certain they have already lost some sales over this. The only thing they have in their favor is that the Hasbro product gets released before Takara's. If it wasnt for that, I believe their whole business model in regards to tf toys, would be put back in question.
Yea I'm getting both WillyJ! Takara version with minimus for my IDW classics shelf, And Hasbro version for my season 3 G1 classics shelf. I'll put the little alpha Trion with Generations Metroplex.
I agree if Takara's product are released first I would've skipped a lot of Hasbro releases.
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Kawai Alphatrion-kun will be so sugoi with Metroplex-sama, desu!
Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 15, 2015
mooncake623 wrote: I'll put the little alpha Trion with Generations Metroplex.
Kawai Alphatrion-kun will be so sugoi with Metroplex-sama, desu!
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Comment by Mkall
May 15, 2015
Still too much money for just a Minimus Ambus figure 
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You know, if Japanese prices were more comparable in retail I would actually say get Takara and Hasbro and sell the Hasbro. But I mean, I hate the mark up TT does for some paint apps. Yeah they do look better and for deluxes I dont mind paying $10 more for awesome decos...but leader class that are almost $30 more? nah.
Same thing with cloud releases. Those guys looked great but twice (sometimes 3 times) the price of the original mold? No thanks.
Anyway, my Magnus is paid for. Now I just have to decide if I want to wait for the CW Megatron upgrade kit or go ahead and ship magnus. Any opinions? Anyone know how long the dx-9 upgrade will be released?
EDIT: Just saw the post about the similar price at Amiami...going to check that out..
Comment by Optimizzy
May 15, 2015
Mkall wrote:Still too much money for just a Minimus Ambus figure
You know, if Japanese prices were more comparable in retail I would actually say get Takara and Hasbro and sell the Hasbro. But I mean, I hate the mark up TT does for some paint apps. Yeah they do look better and for deluxes I dont mind paying $10 more for awesome decos...but leader class that are almost $30 more? nah.
Same thing with cloud releases. Those guys looked great but twice (sometimes 3 times) the price of the original mold? No thanks.
Anyway, my Magnus is paid for. Now I just have to decide if I want to wait for the CW Megatron upgrade kit or go ahead and ship magnus. Any opinions? Anyone know how long the dx-9 upgrade will be released?
EDIT: Just saw the post about the similar price at Amiami...going to check that out..
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Comment by Optimizzy
May 15, 2015
wow that checks out. whats the shipping like on that place?
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Comment by Cobotron
May 15, 2015
No idea untill it comes in. I've heard good things about SAL though. I'm taking the risk.Optimizzy wrote:wow that checks out. whats the shipping like on that place?
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Just take the registered sal Cobster. Gives you a bit of peace of mind.
And, aside from the sort of mechanical cold customer support responses from amiami, I can vouch for them and products. For the last 6 years I've ordered from them, only cancellation I got was for the second run of TFGo Shinobi lion. The cancelled my too an late order probably because Tomy didn't decide to go through with a second run.
Comment by fenrir72
May 15, 2015
Cobotron wrote:No idea untill it comes in. I've heard good things about SAL though. I'm taking the risk.Optimizzy wrote:wow that checks out. whats the shipping like on that place?
Just take the registered sal Cobster. Gives you a bit of peace of mind.
And, aside from the sort of mechanical cold customer support responses from amiami, I can vouch for them and products. For the last 6 years I've ordered from them, only cancellation I got was for the second run of TFGo Shinobi lion. The cancelled my too an late order probably because Tomy didn't decide to go through with a second run.
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Paying 10$ more for a deluxe, or 30$ more for a leader ammount to paying 50% more. It's the same thing. Still, it may look bigger for you Americans.
For me, and most Canadians, deluxes are 20$ and Leaders are 60$. Both plus around 15% taxes. Getting the Takara releases, especially at Amiami prices, ammount to barely a few bucks above what I would pay locally at full price plus taxes. And that's shipping included!
So, for me, there will be only 3 reasons to order Hasbro above Takara. In case of a sale, if I don't want to wait, or if I prefer the Hasbro deco.
For any other reasons, I will priorize Takara.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 15, 2015
Optimizzy wrote:Mkall wrote:Still too much money for just a Minimus Ambus figure
You know, if Japanese prices were more comparable in retail I would actually say get Takara and Hasbro and sell the Hasbro. But I mean, I hate the mark up TT does for some paint apps. Yeah they do look better and for deluxes I dont mind paying $10 more for awesome decos...but leader class that are almost $30 more? nah.
Paying 10$ more for a deluxe, or 30$ more for a leader ammount to paying 50% more. It's the same thing. Still, it may look bigger for you Americans.
For me, and most Canadians, deluxes are 20$ and Leaders are 60$. Both plus around 15% taxes. Getting the Takara releases, especially at Amiami prices, ammount to barely a few bucks above what I would pay locally at full price plus taxes. And that's shipping included!
So, for me, there will be only 3 reasons to order Hasbro above Takara. In case of a sale, if I don't want to wait, or if I prefer the Hasbro deco.
For any other reasons, I will priorize Takara.
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Comment by Cobotron
May 15, 2015
That's exactly what I chose. Thanks for the advice Fenster!fenrir72 wrote:Just take the registered sal Cobster. Gives you a bit of peace of mind.
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Comment by prjkt
May 15, 2015
No Magnus from BBTS for me yet, kind of a good thing as I've got no money this week (damn surprise bills)
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I see what you did there, sir.
Comment by SKYWARPED_128
May 15, 2015
-Kanrabat- wrote:shajaki wrote:Unpainted rims are on of my biggest pet peeves.Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, I'm going Takara as well. For the painted rims if nothing else.
YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
I see what you did there, sir.
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Comment by DedicatedGhostArt
May 15, 2015
I think this mold actually looks better as Starscream than Thundercracker.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 15, 2015
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:shajaki wrote:Unpainted rims are on of my biggest pet peeves.Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, I'm going Takara as well. For the painted rims if nothing else.
YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
I see what you did there, sir.
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Comment by LOST Cybertronian
May 15, 2015
-Kanrabat- wrote:shajaki wrote:Unpainted rims are on of my biggest pet peeves.Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, I'm going Takara as well. For the painted rims if nothing else.
YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
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Comment by skywarp23
May 16, 2015
I'm fairly certain I was among some of the first to pre-order Magnus. But to find out on a Friday evening that only a few came in. Now I have to wait until Monday to know if I'm one of the lucky ones. Lol.
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Comment by william-james88
May 16, 2015
You know, I just bought some more stunticons and noticed that their hubcaps were painted. I realized that it was something I always thought I would get since it never dawned on me that there would be a day when you wouldnt get that. Well, it seems like Hasbro chose Leader Magnus to be the toy to let go of that basic feature and its just one more reason to go with Takara. I mean come on, the DELUXES have painted hubcaps!
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No its not the same thing. This is not a math thing. Its a price gouging thing. Its clearly about how much more money can Takara justify adding to the price for a few extra swipes of paint. If $10 is the cost, then Takara UM should only cost $55. And if $30 is the cost, than every takara deluxe figure should cost $45. The few extra swipes of paint only have one cost to the factory no matter how big a piece of plastic they are painted on.
Comment by Rated X
May 16, 2015
-Kanrabat- wrote:Optimizzy wrote:Mkall wrote:Still too much money for just a Minimus Ambus figure
You know, if Japanese prices were more comparable in retail I would actually say get Takara and Hasbro and sell the Hasbro. But I mean, I hate the mark up TT does for some paint apps. Yeah they do look better and for deluxes I dont mind paying $10 more for awesome decos...but leader class that are almost $30 more? nah.
Paying 10$ more for a deluxe, or 30$ more for a leader ammount to paying 50% more. It's the same thing. Still, it may look bigger for you Americans.
No its not the same thing. This is not a math thing. Its a price gouging thing. Its clearly about how much more money can Takara justify adding to the price for a few extra swipes of paint. If $10 is the cost, then Takara UM should only cost $55. And if $30 is the cost, than every takara deluxe figure should cost $45. The few extra swipes of paint only have one cost to the factory no matter how big a piece of plastic they are painted on.
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But doesnt a bigger figure get more extra paint? And last time I checked, paint is a variable cost, not a fixed cost since it<s cost is dependent on how much is used. In any case, both prices are the very same right now so this is a non issue. You are technically getting less for the same amount by buying the hasbro version.
Comment by william-james88
May 16, 2015
Rated X wrote:
No its not the same thing. This is not a math thing. Its a price gouging thing. Its clearly about how much more money can Takara justify adding to the price for a few extra swipes of paint. If $10 is the cost, then Takara UM should only cost $55. And if $30 is the cost, than every takara deluxe figure should cost $45. The few extra swipes of paint only have one cost to the factory no matter how big a piece of plastic they are painted on.
But doesnt a bigger figure get more extra paint? And last time I checked, paint is a variable cost, not a fixed cost since it<s cost is dependent on how much is used. In any case, both prices are the very same right now so this is a non issue. You are technically getting less for the same amount by buying the hasbro version.
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Huh. Am I agreeing with Rated X? Dang. I guess I am. Yeah it's a variable cost but when they budget the cost to produce then (so they can make a suitable profit) it should be a standard amount. The difference of $10 and 30 is very suspect if you think of it. Far better is to argue that gang molded parts of different plastic would be were the true cost is going. However, I do think Takara takes a little more advantage of their consumer base with their prices. Cloud releases are a good example. Sometimes they are not so bad, other times it's outrageous.
Comment by Optimizzy
May 16, 2015
william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote:
No its not the same thing. This is not a math thing. Its a price gouging thing. Its clearly about how much more money can Takara justify adding to the price for a few extra swipes of paint. If $10 is the cost, then Takara UM should only cost $55. And if $30 is the cost, than every takara deluxe figure should cost $45. The few extra swipes of paint only have one cost to the factory no matter how big a piece of plastic they are painted on.
But doesnt a bigger figure get more extra paint? And last time I checked, paint is a variable cost, not a fixed cost since it<s cost is dependent on how much is used. In any case, both prices are the very same right now so this is a non issue. You are technically getting less for the same amount by buying the hasbro version.
Huh. Am I agreeing with Rated X? Dang. I guess I am. Yeah it's a variable cost but when they budget the cost to produce then (so they can make a suitable profit) it should be a standard amount. The difference of $10 and 30 is very suspect if you think of it. Far better is to argue that gang molded parts of different plastic would be were the true cost is going. However, I do think Takara takes a little more advantage of their consumer base with their prices. Cloud releases are a good example. Sometimes they are not so bad, other times it's outrageous.
