
BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Jet Mode Revealed
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Feb 12, 2013 at 1:20pm CST
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Comment by GuyIncognito
Feb 12, 2013
Meh. Hoist is growing on me, but this one is boring.
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Comment by Noideaforaname
Feb 12, 2013
Love the warping effect, but not much else.
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Agreed. However I don't display my TFs in vehicle mode, so he'll be in the box.
Comment by Mkall
Feb 12, 2013
Noideaforaname wrote:Love the warping effect, but not much else.
Agreed. However I don't display my TFs in vehicle mode, so he'll be in the box.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Feb 12, 2013
The warping effect is a nice idea I admit, but I don't like how the deco suffers on the tail fins. 

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Comment by Tresob
Feb 12, 2013
Maybe they would have been better off just retooling the original molds. Other than a lack of head articulation, those figures hold up pretty well against their modern counterparts.
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Comment by Manterax Prime
Feb 12, 2013
You've had yourself redecorated! I don't like it.
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Comment by Tigertrack
Feb 12, 2013
So far, no interest in owning this set.
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Comment by Bumblevivisector
Feb 12, 2013
RRGH! This is bugging the heck outta' me: Does anyone else keep seeing the pic and thinking it's supposed to be Slingshot?
I mean, I know what MW Skywarp looks like, but with that tapered tail in those colors, the jet mode just keeps screaming Slingshot, like the theme is G2 Redux continued and the purple bits are actually side-effects of the nano-mechs or SG Scraplets that cured his gold-plastic syndrome. Maybe it's partly the mistake that briefly identified him as Dirge and made me think Machine Wars was intentionally blurring into Beast Wars II because they used the same flip-changer jet molds, but it just keeps looking like some Slingshot-Space Case hybrid.
Maybe I'd feel different if I had either MW Skywarp or this Bayniverse mold, but so far this just has me hoping they're saving their best reveals for last.
I mean, I know what MW Skywarp looks like, but with that tapered tail in those colors, the jet mode just keeps screaming Slingshot, like the theme is G2 Redux continued and the purple bits are actually side-effects of the nano-mechs or SG Scraplets that cured his gold-plastic syndrome. Maybe it's partly the mistake that briefly identified him as Dirge and made me think Machine Wars was intentionally blurring into Beast Wars II because they used the same flip-changer jet molds, but it just keeps looking like some Slingshot-Space Case hybrid.
Maybe I'd feel different if I had either MW Skywarp or this Bayniverse mold, but so far this just has me hoping they're saving their best reveals for last.
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Comment by UltraPrimal
Feb 12, 2013
Oh, Geez! Kill it! Kill it with fire! Or at least take it away and give me the obvious and eventual pre-BW Waspinator repaint.
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That was always going to be the thing with the smaller figures of this line. Let's face it, the small Machine Wars figures were pretty advanced for their time. They were the first figures designed with the "auto-transform" gimmick which became standard in BW and the articulation is on par with a Beast Wars Basic figure - unsurprising when you consider that these are unproduced G2 figures which were made at the end of the G2 line (iirc).
When you're starting from that point, then unlike G1 figures and even the early G2 figures, you don't have improved articulation to fall back on if you make a bad mould choice. As such, this really was a line where they really had to get the mould choices right if they were going to redux the original MW characters. However as I think the majority of us agree on, that simply hasn't happened here.
Comment by Bowspearer
Feb 12, 2013
Tresob wrote:Maybe they would have been better off just retooling the original molds. Other than a lack of head articulation, those figures hold up pretty well against their modern counterparts.
That was always going to be the thing with the smaller figures of this line. Let's face it, the small Machine Wars figures were pretty advanced for their time. They were the first figures designed with the "auto-transform" gimmick which became standard in BW and the articulation is on par with a Beast Wars Basic figure - unsurprising when you consider that these are unproduced G2 figures which were made at the end of the G2 line (iirc).
When you're starting from that point, then unlike G1 figures and even the early G2 figures, you don't have improved articulation to fall back on if you make a bad mould choice. As such, this really was a line where they really had to get the mould choices right if they were going to redux the original MW characters. However as I think the majority of us agree on, that simply hasn't happened here.
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Trust me, I own MW Thundercracker and if anything it's actually made me do even more of a double-take when I saw this failure of a figure.
Comment by Bowspearer
Feb 12, 2013
Bumblevivisector wrote:Maybe I'd feel different if I had either MW Skywarp
Trust me, I own MW Thundercracker and if anything it's actually made me do even more of a double-take when I saw this failure of a figure.

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Comment by MINDVVIPE
Feb 12, 2013
Lots of hate for this mould eh?
I actually like the Dirge version, if not for the elbow/palms being oriented monkey-style.
I actually like the Dirge version, if not for the elbow/palms being oriented monkey-style.
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Comment by ILL-Star
Feb 12, 2013
Agreed. I like looking at this as an upgraded Skywarp. I've always liked this mold and now I like it even more. I don't give a hoot about his vehicle mode not looking like the original, as the original, along with all the other Machine Wars figures look like cheap pieces of dollar store crap.MINDVVIPE wrote:Lots of hate for this mould eh?
I actually like the Dirge version, if not for the elbow/palms being oriented monkey-style.
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Comment by Nemesis Maximo
Feb 12, 2013
The warping effect was poorly executed imo. It just looks like his paint has been torn away to me.
Also, why wasn't this revealed with the robot mode? It never hit me until now.
Also, why wasn't this revealed with the robot mode? It never hit me until now.

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For Botcon, they shoulda made it something like this. Come on botcon, make those "collector" figures actually worth something.
Comment by MINDVVIPE
Feb 12, 2013
Nemesis Maximo wrote:The warping effect was poorly executed imo. It just looks like his paint has been torn away to me.
Also, why wasn't this revealed with the robot mode? It never hit me until now.


For Botcon, they shoulda made it something like this. Come on botcon, make those "collector" figures actually worth something.
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Because most of it would be on his back, out of sight. The only way we could have know was the purple coloring on his leg-mounted wings.
Comment by Mindmaster
Feb 12, 2013
Nemesis Maximo wrote:The warping effect was poorly executed imo. It just looks like his paint has been torn away to me.
Also, why wasn't this revealed with the robot mode? It never hit me until now.
Because most of it would be on his back, out of sight. The only way we could have know was the purple coloring on his leg-mounted wings.
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Comment by zatara1701
Feb 12, 2013
I will say this... I remember when trolling through Kay-B Toy store and seeing Machine Wars YEARS after they were released STILL on the shelf. Even back then before I really became a true collector I thought "What a bunch of crap!"
I recently went and looked at the galleries on here to make sure my memory wasn't failing since Botcon decided to pay Machine Wars homage...Nope, STILL crap. SOOooooo, I find it facinating they are trying to get us to buy something that little to none of us have affection for. I am all for reimaging a character, but the bastardizations Machine Wars created of our beloved characters even way back then were laughable. The ONLY redeming figures I recall are...
- Optimus: The mold overall is pretty cool, but that face...ugh, NOT OP.
- Soundwave: Cool Overall, but they could've colored him more like G1
- Sandstorm: Personally, I don't ever remember seeing this mold, but looking at it now, I am impressed...I would be interested in seeing Botcon do that one.
- Starscream: Overall cool mold, but personally it irks me that he got the badass mold and Megs got that crap dollar store mold.
So after that little tirade, count me in on the "haters" of this years exclusives...Not that I am going to waste money buying them anyways...Honestly, they could've found something better for Botcon and did these MW homages as a Generations exclusive to TRU or Amazon. Just my two cents for what its worth.
I recently went and looked at the galleries on here to make sure my memory wasn't failing since Botcon decided to pay Machine Wars homage...Nope, STILL crap. SOOooooo, I find it facinating they are trying to get us to buy something that little to none of us have affection for. I am all for reimaging a character, but the bastardizations Machine Wars created of our beloved characters even way back then were laughable. The ONLY redeming figures I recall are...
- Optimus: The mold overall is pretty cool, but that face...ugh, NOT OP.

- Soundwave: Cool Overall, but they could've colored him more like G1

- Sandstorm: Personally, I don't ever remember seeing this mold, but looking at it now, I am impressed...I would be interested in seeing Botcon do that one.

- Starscream: Overall cool mold, but personally it irks me that he got the badass mold and Megs got that crap dollar store mold.

So after that little tirade, count me in on the "haters" of this years exclusives...Not that I am going to waste money buying them anyways...Honestly, they could've found something better for Botcon and did these MW homages as a Generations exclusive to TRU or Amazon. Just my two cents for what its worth.

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Comment by Tresob
Feb 12, 2013
I wonder if the Machine Wars theme is also in response to the Beast Wars direction that Prime is taking...I wonder.
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Comment by Seibertron
Feb 12, 2013
5 years in a row of disappointing BotCon sets. I'm seeing a pattern here which is unfortunate because I feel like a lot of thought and love went into the 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 sets (even though it appears the 2005 set has become less popular over the years as fans have found other replacements for Ironhide and Ratchet and even though I personally dislike the whole Shattered Glass idea it was still a fun idea for ONE year prior to it being overused).
I personally liked the "G2 Redux" set but think they missed an opportunity. If nothing else, it would've been a much better "G1.5" set, because that's what most of it was sans Breakdown and Streetstar. It wasn't much of a G2 set with the heavy hitters being G1 Europe characters. You needed black Sideswipe, blue or teal Grimlock and a few others to sell it properly as a G2 set.
The sell-out of a set does not mean that it is popular, especially when you are dealing with limited runs of 1,500+ for some figure sets or sets that are basically required to be purchased in order to enjoy the entirety of the convention because of what is available for Primus packages versus the other packages.

I personally liked the "G2 Redux" set but think they missed an opportunity. If nothing else, it would've been a much better "G1.5" set, because that's what most of it was sans Breakdown and Streetstar. It wasn't much of a G2 set with the heavy hitters being G1 Europe characters. You needed black Sideswipe, blue or teal Grimlock and a few others to sell it properly as a G2 set.
The sell-out of a set does not mean that it is popular, especially when you are dealing with limited runs of 1,500+ for some figure sets or sets that are basically required to be purchased in order to enjoy the entirety of the convention because of what is available for Primus packages versus the other packages.



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Yep, for a split second i thought it was Slingshot, then i remembered who it was
Comment by Sinnertwin
Feb 13, 2013
Bumblevivisector wrote:RRGH! This is bugging the heck outta' me: Does anyone else keep seeing the pic and thinking it's supposed to be Slingshot?
I mean, I know what MW Skywarp looks like, but with that tapered tail in those colors, the jet mode just keeps screaming Slingshot, like the theme is G2 Redux continued and the purple bits are actually side-effects of the nano-mechs or SG Scraplets that cured his gold-plastic syndrome. Maybe it's partly the mistake that briefly identified him as Dirge and made me think Machine Wars was intentionally blurring into Beast Wars II because they used the same flip-changer jet molds, but it just keeps looking like some Slingshot-Space Case hybrid.
Maybe I'd feel different if I had either MW Skywarp or this Bayniverse mold, but so far this just has me hoping they're saving their best reveals for last.
Yep, for a split second i thought it was Slingshot, then i remembered who it was