BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

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BotCon has revealed the second figure in this year's convention exclusive set, Machine Wars Skywarp. The figure is reuse Transformers Revenge of Fallen Deluxe Class Dirge with a brand new head mold. Check him out in robot mode below.

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462016)
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:29pm CST

The warping effect is pretty cool (if limited to the wings and tail fins).

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462017)
Posted by Rated X on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:29pm CST

So Dirge gets repainted as Skywarp ? :BANG_HEAD:

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462018)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:29pm CST

It looks cool...but I wish they wouldn't use movie-verse toys as "classics" characters.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462020)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:31pm CST

Wow that's ugly. RoTF has been out for nearly 4 years, and somehow I managed to miss this toy altogether, this is my 1st time seeing that mold. I do believe I've found a mold more repulsive than movieverse Starscream.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462025)
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:36pm CST

I never cared for that mold. Would have rather seen them use the ROTF Breakaway mold, which I think is an awesome jet mold.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462027)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:41pm CST

GuyIncognito wrote:I never cared for that mold. Would have rather seen them use the ROTF Breakaway mold, which I think is an awesome jet mold.

But a bad looking bot mode. RotF Dirge is the better choice here IMO. Just think of him as Classics with a lot of (unnecessary) detail. :lol:

And it looks like El Duque needs more coffee, as it's Skywarp, not Dirge.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462029)
Posted by Mkall on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:44pm CST

I've hated movie molds since the day they started. This will be one of the few Botcon figures I'll not display.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462030)
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:48pm CST

I wish they had made this mold a bit taller and sorted the arm kibble out it's far far too short not to say that would have saved it but it would have helped , i like the colour and over all look it's just a shame about the molds shit bits. i still wouldnt buy it.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462032)
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:50pm CST

I have HFTD Jetblade and let me say, WORST JETFORMER MOLD EVER!!!!
In robot mode that is. Vehicle mode is superb. And, I'll give Skywarp this. Nice head sculpt.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462034)
Posted by El Duque on February 8th, 2013 @ 1:52pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it looks like El Duque needs more coffee, as it's Skywarp, not Dirge.

You have no idea, just got into NYC for Toy Fair.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462040)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:00pm CST

El Duque wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it looks like El Duque needs more coffee, as it's Skywarp, not Dirge.

You have no idea, just got into NYC for Toy Fair.

I'm sorry

Hope you'll make it out there alive.

I have RotF Dirge and Gen. Sergeant Kup right here next to eachother, and Dirge is short! I don't think he's the worst jet mold out there, mind you. Makes me wonder who they'll pick for Megatron/Megaplex.

O, Thundercracker as Freebee

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462046)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:15pm CST

Okay that's 2 for 2 not so impressive Botcon releases so far, but there is still hope says I! :VEHI:

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462047)
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:17pm CST

With that paint scheme he looks very G1 Jetfire-esque?

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462052)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:20pm CST

MightyMagnus78 wrote:With that paint scheme he looks very Jetfire-esque?

Just a bit, even the original looked like that:

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462062)
Posted by DevconSupreme on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:35pm CST

Complete garbarge man! None of the fan-club exclusives are ever breath taking let alone worth the price they ask. Machine Wars was a terrible line like G2 was in my opinion.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462064)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:39pm CST

could've picked a better mold, dont get me wrong ROTF dirge is a great figure but out of all the jet molds we've had over the years there are far better ones to use.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462065)
Posted by osubreeze on February 8th, 2013 @ 2:40pm CST

Wow. Very shiny.

With 2 figures out now, what I thought would happen might be. The "Machine Wars" having Movie style robots versus "Classics" style.

I'm quickly becoming less impressed with this set.

However, per the Botcon and TFCC Twitter feed, they said this one may not impress. Look for the 3 - 5 molds.

So they say.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462084)
Posted by dedcat on February 8th, 2013 @ 3:35pm CST

MW Skywarp was repainted to BWII Dirge, now Movie Dirge gets made into MW Skywarp. clever.

I remember this being one of the more enjoyable movie molds play-wise, so I'm not terribly upset.

I would have liked some retooling to make it a bit less 'movie-esque.' At the very least, some normal hands.

I'm holding out hope that Thundercracker gets his own unique mold, even though the original was a Skywarp repaint.

Overall, it is a good looking toy and I really dig the head sculpt. But please, no more retooled movie as classics figures. (Especially Breakaway!)

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462085)
Posted by Flux Convoy on February 8th, 2013 @ 3:35pm CST

Looks fine to me. It's a mold I don't have too. He might not spend his time in bot bode but I bet his jet mode is nice. I'm actually surprised at the mold choices so far. I kinda like that.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462089)
Posted by Blurrz on February 8th, 2013 @ 3:46pm CST

That is one mold that does not deserve to be in a box set

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462090)
Posted by STngAR on February 8th, 2013 @ 3:48pm CST

osubreeze wrote:Wow. Very shiny.

With 2 figures out now, what I thought would happen might be. The "Machine Wars" having Movie style robots versus "Classics" style.

I'm quickly becoming less impressed with this set.

However, per the Botcon and TFCC Twitter feed, they said this one may not impress. Look for the 3 - 5 molds.

So they say.

Really?? That statement raises all kinds of questions in my mind

:MAXIMAL:

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462096)
Posted by Overcracker on February 8th, 2013 @ 4:45pm CST

Definitely not impressed. But I'm calling it: Souvenir sets with Megaplex and Thundercracker Repaints of this.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462110)
Posted by Counterpunch on February 8th, 2013 @ 6:19pm CST

Ugh...this is not very good. Not very good...

I don't hate it but it does nothing at all for me. Thing was, I thought movie molds might make for interesting MW figures.

It isn't a bad figure but it is by no means a "good" toy either.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462112)
Posted by DISCHARGE on February 8th, 2013 @ 6:22pm CST

Blurrz wrote:That is one mold that does not deserve to be in a box set

Thank you.

I love the original Machine wars stuff.
I avoided this toy originally. This was a weak choice. I would have preferred a ROTF Thrust(I actually like that toy) repaint over this.

Honestly I would really have preferred Animated Activators Starscream etc..
That toy does the automorph so...

Whatever, I only get one or none most of the time anyway.
This would not be the one :lol:

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462134)
Posted by ShadowGinrai on February 8th, 2013 @ 7:49pm CST

I don't know about you guys, but I loved that mold when I got it as ROTF Dirge. I like it just as much now. Honestly, this one impresses me more than the first reveal.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462175)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on February 8th, 2013 @ 9:55pm CST

ew.. no.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462178)
Posted by Blurrz on February 8th, 2013 @ 9:59pm CST

Its funny that my first experience for this toy was from someone who posted on this page, as I think Counterpunch just threw this into one of our deals when he was selling off his movie figures. Same thing essentially happened to me as I only have a few remaining, and it took awhile for me to realize why I'm off put by the Dirge mold, and it's more or less because the main three seekers are always about symmetry. Obviously it sucks when there's only one gun, but overall the majority of seeker molds have body symmetry, such as Energon (which would make for a great Machine Wars Skywarp... but that mold is probably dead in the water).

Out of movie molds ROTF Breakaway would have been a better choice I think. That's probably hindsight bias because atm this MW Skywarp is a big turnoff from getting anything else in this set.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462183)
Posted by Flashwave on February 8th, 2013 @ 10:35pm CST

Shoddy photoshop job is sh... Wait, is he supposed to Bepaintedlikethat?

I love the Dirge mold, perhaps because I love the Harrier jumpjets, of which the mokd is based on. I am Not sold by is toy thouh, and I think, looking at pictures, the breakaway mold would've looked more better. On the plusside, if the club now has access to the Harrier alt, maybe its high past time we poke them with a stick to get a G1 Slingshot (yes, i know, this is a machine wars set, i thinking down the road) out of it, because he too turned into a harrier jump jet, or something different enough to avoid the licsencing for one, anywat

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462210)
Posted by rpetras on February 9th, 2013 @ 12:22am CST

More easily skipped stuff for me

My wallet will appreciate some relief.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462215)
Posted by Counterpunch on February 9th, 2013 @ 12:41am CST

Blurrz wrote:Its funny that my first experience for this toy was from someone who posted on this page, as I think Counterpunch just threw this into one of our deals when he was selling off his movie figures. Same thing essentially happened to me as I only have a few remaining, and it took awhile for me to realize why I'm off put by the Dirge mold, and it's more or less because the main three seekers are always about symmetry. Obviously it sucks when there's only one gun, but overall the majority of seeker molds have body symmetry, such as Energon (which would make for a great Machine Wars Skywarp... but that mold is probably dead in the water).

Out of movie molds ROTF Breakaway would have been a better choice I think. That's probably hindsight bias because atm this MW Skywarp is a big turnoff from getting anything else in this set.

I remember that...

Also, agree on Breakaway, would have been much better.

With the Dirge mold, the jet is great.

Any one of his problems could be overlooked. However...they start to compound.

Asymmetrical, lousy arm kibble, too much clutter all over the legs...

This is the type of toy I buy to explore new designs and engineering. It isn't the kind of toy that I want out of a Botcon set.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462218)
Posted by Bowspearer on February 9th, 2013 @ 1:55am CST

Suddenly the missing crane on MW Hoist isn't the biggest letdown for the set. The mould choice is terrible. Botcon is a massive letdown this year. I was really looking forward to Machine Wars being the theme (I've been waiting for someone to do something with MW since 1997). But honestly, articulation aside, these actually seem like a downgrade on the original figures.

Pity, this would have been the first Botcon set I would have moved heaven and Earth to get had it been done right...

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462219)
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2013 @ 2:05am CST

It's stuff like this that makes me really miss the originality 3H had.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462225)
Posted by Henry921 on February 9th, 2013 @ 4:21am CST

I think we can all agree we like the head sculpt. Aaaaand that's it.

Seems I was optimistic thinking the three Seekers would be the army building 3-pack this year... :BANG_HEAD:

I'm guessing we'll probably get Thundercracker either in the box or as the attendee freebie, and as both of the announced molds are new variations on existing MW characters, I'll bet there will be very few new characters in whatever the club's story ends up being.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462244)
Posted by Sinnertwin on February 9th, 2013 @ 6:59am CST

I don't mind that. Never got into MW, so the history behind it isn't a factor for me.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462246)
Posted by RhA on February 9th, 2013 @ 7:14am CST

This one does nothing for me. But then again, the spectacular ones have yet to be shown.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462258)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 9th, 2013 @ 8:18am CST

To those who wished the RotF Breakway mold was used:

If Movie Longarm can't be used because of his appearance in the video game and movie, then Breakaway is disqualified as well, having appeared in the RotF and DotM games.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462268)
Posted by Mindmaster on February 9th, 2013 @ 9:10am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

I really wanted to get that when it was first in stores, but I never did find it. :-(

Anyway...

I like the mold, but not as Skywarp. Like everyone else is saying, ROTF Breakaway would probably have been the better choice, despite Jelze's understandable point.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462276)
Posted by LiverMatrix on February 9th, 2013 @ 9:57am CST

osubreeze wrote:
However, per the Botcon and TFCC Twitter feed, they said this one may not impress. Look for the 3 - 5 molds.

So they say.

I honestly don't mind this guy. What I don't understand though is why on Earth they've said that this one might not impress. They might as well have said 'We know this one's crap. We wanted to use Skywarp and came up with this.'

Saying this might not impress makes about as much sense as using the Chewbacca Defense.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462368)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2013 @ 2:54pm CST

Re:All the "no crane/hook" comments:

Sabrblade wrote:Anyone who owns any version of Cybertron Armorhide can do this with this new Hoist figure:

Photos courtesy of NightViper from Allspark.com

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462409)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2013 @ 3:40pm CST

Like the headsculpt, like the deco, but that's about it. Never owned that Dirge/Jetblade mold, so eh.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1462715)
Posted by Bowspearer on February 9th, 2013 @ 8:06pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Re:All the "no crane/hook" comments:
Sabrblade wrote:Anyone who owns any version of Cybertron Armorhide can do this with this new Hoist figure:

Photos courtesy of NightViper from Allspark.com

Getting another look at it and seeing that the length is passable, it really does warrant the question of why they didn't just use the prexisting moulds for Armorhide's gun here. It's a little shorter than I'd like, but is far better than nothing at all here.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463087)
Posted by Dagon on February 10th, 2013 @ 11:40am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:To those who wished the RotF Breakway mold was used:

I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make here. As some way of showing Breakaway supporters that that hideous Dirge mold is a better choice, you post a picture of the better figure, and, the one that people are saying they'd prefer?

I don't know about anyone else, but all this picture does for me is confirm for me the idea that I'd have been more pleased with a MW Skywarp as a Breakaway repaint rather than the crummy Dirge repaint.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463089)
Posted by Bowspearer on February 10th, 2013 @ 11:44am CST

Honestly, I think the question is, what Jet molds were available? Could they even have gone with, say, Animated moulds? Why on earth did they go with Jetblade? Did someone in Fun Pub make the choice, or did Hasbro force it on them. If it was Hasbro's call and I was running Fun Pub, then I'd be wanting to put it out there asap - especially considering that even they appear to have known it was going to be a bit of a lame duck.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463096)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 10th, 2013 @ 12:07pm CST

Hasbro has made a few jet molds available to FunPub, and they just had to make due. RotF Dirge would have been the better choice IMO, not only because it has slightly less Movie-esque aesthetics (hunchback, separated toes), but also because it can be seen as a logical evolution of the basic Seeker design with the intakes on the shoulders, the turbines and the (fake) cockpit on the chest.

I also wonder what aircraft are usable at this point for Starscream and Megatron/Megaplex. I can't see either of them using RtS Lugnut.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463097)
Posted by Dagon on February 10th, 2013 @ 12:07pm CST

I like this figure. I ended up liking this mold a lot more than I thought I would, and I like this darker paintjob on it. The head is pretty generic looking to me, but all in all this is a nice looking figure.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463115)
Posted by Dagon on February 10th, 2013 @ 12:57pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hasbro has made a few jet molds available to FunPub, and they just had to make due. RotF Dirge would have been the better choice IMO, not only because it has slightly less Movie-esque aesthetics (hunchback, separated toes), but also because it can be seen as a logical evolution of the basic Seeker design with the intakes on the shoulders, the turbines and the (fake) cockpit on the chest.

I also wonder what aircraft are usable at this point for Starscream and Megatron/Megaplex. I can't see either of them using RtS Lugnut.

You're bringing up RtS Lugnut, well, how about the ROTF/RtS Mindwipe/Strafe mold for Starscream? It sort of even cuts the same profile as the original MW Starscream figure does, after a fashion.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463125)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 10th, 2013 @ 1:07pm CST

Dagon wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hasbro has made a few jet molds available to FunPub, and they just had to make due. RotF Dirge would have been the better choice IMO, not only because it has slightly less Movie-esque aesthetics (hunchback, separated toes), but also because it can be seen as a logical evolution of the basic Seeker design with the intakes on the shoulders, the turbines and the (fake) cockpit on the chest.

I also wonder what aircraft are usable at this point for Starscream and Megatron/Megaplex. I can't see either of them using RtS Lugnut.

You're bringing up RtS Lugnut, well, how about the ROTF/RtS Mindwipe/Strafe mold for Starscream? It sort of even cuts the same profile as the original MW Starscream figure does, after a fashion.

Yeah, I could see that happening. I actually did some looking up, and found that Universe Powerglide also remains unused.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463134)
Posted by Mkall on February 10th, 2013 @ 1:27pm CST

Bowspearer wrote:Getting another look at it and seeing that the length is passable, it really does warrant the question of why they didn't just use the prexisting moulds for Armorhide's gun here. It's a little shorter than I'd like, but is far better than nothing at all here.

Most likely Armorhide's gun is gang-molded in with the figure's mold and it would cost a lot of money for the Club to set up a whole new production line for a small accessory. Money which, as we've seen, The Club doesn't want to spend (out of being cheap or being frugal).

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463255)
Posted by Bowspearer on February 10th, 2013 @ 7:56pm CST

Mkall wrote:
Bowspearer wrote:Getting another look at it and seeing that the length is passable, it really does warrant the question of why they didn't just use the prexisting moulds for Armorhide's gun here. It's a little shorter than I'd like, but is far better than nothing at all here.

Most likely Armorhide's gun is gang-molded in with the figure's mold and it would cost a lot of money for the Club to set up a whole new production line for a small accessory. Money which, as we've seen, The Club doesn't want to spend (out of being cheap or being frugal).

All of which then goes back to the question of why they didn't go with Longarm. Heck, even Hasbro went with Longarm's mould when they did movie Hoist.

Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed (1463315)
Posted by Henry921 on February 11th, 2013 @ 3:05am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Dagon wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hasbro has made a few jet molds available to FunPub, and they just had to make due. RotF Dirge would have been the better choice IMO, not only because it has slightly less Movie-esque aesthetics (hunchback, separated toes), but also because it can be seen as a logical evolution of the basic Seeker design with the intakes on the shoulders, the turbines and the (fake) cockpit on the chest.

I also wonder what aircraft are usable at this point for Starscream and Megatron/Megaplex. I can't see either of them using RtS Lugnut.

You're bringing up RtS Lugnut, well, how about the ROTF/RtS Mindwipe/Strafe mold for Starscream? It sort of even cuts the same profile as the original MW Starscream figure does, after a fashion.

Yeah, I could see that happening. I actually did some looking up, and found that Universe Powerglide also remains unused.

I don't think Powerglide or Lugnut are "advanced" enough to fit in with the Machine Wars aesthetic. Even back in 96, the Decepticons became top of the line fighter jets.

Of the various RotF and TF2010 planes, I'd say the Mindwipe mold is a given, and possibly TF2010 Terradive/DotM Space Case.

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