Clearer Images and Box Art - Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-EX Megatronia
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Comment by King Kuuga
Sep 10, 2016
Could we please stop misusing the word "repaint"? It's only a repaint if the injected plastics are all the same but the paint map is different (this is extraordinarily rare). This is a redeco.
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That is an incredibly specific detail, which I did not know about.
Comment by Va'al
Sep 10, 2016
King Kuuga wrote:Could we please stop misusing the word "repaint"? It's only a repaint if the injected plastics are all the same but the paint map is different (this is extraordinarily rare). This is a redeco.
That is an incredibly specific detail, which I did not know about.
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Comment by Va'al
Sep 10, 2016
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Comment by King Kuuga
Sep 10, 2016
It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint
NOW YOU KNOW!
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint
NOW YOU KNOW!
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I do!
But do I care..?
Comment by Va'al
Sep 10, 2016
King Kuuga wrote:It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint
NOW YOU KNOW!
I do!
But do I care..?

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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 10, 2016
G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE!!!Dr Va'al wrote:King Kuuga wrote:It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint
NOW YOU KNOW!
I do!
But do I care..?
Re: Clearer Images and Box Art - Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-EX Megatronia
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And knowing is half the battle.............
Comment by fenrir72
Sep 10, 2016
King Kuuga wrote:It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint
NOW YOU KNOW!
And knowing is half the battle.............

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Comment by firefox91
Sep 10, 2016
I have to say, these new colors are far better than the ugliness that is Victorion. I like how each bot has a unique stand out color. It reminds me of Voltron. But I still can't get over the head. It's really tall and skinny, it just looks disproportionate. Other than that, I really like it.
Regarding redeco vs repaint. I see the differences that are being stated but in the end I just don't think it is truly that important. Existing tooling, different colors. It's commonplace in toy collecting that is referred to as repaint. No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.
Regarding redeco vs repaint. I see the differences that are being stated but in the end I just don't think it is truly that important. Existing tooling, different colors. It's commonplace in toy collecting that is referred to as repaint. No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.
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Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad
Comment by william-james88
Sep 10, 2016
firefox91 wrote: No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.
Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad

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Kind of like how "I'm sorry" and "My Bad" mean about the same thing... unless you're at a funeral
Comment by jgilkinson
Sep 10, 2016
william-james88 wrote:firefox91 wrote: No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.
Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad
Kind of like how "I'm sorry" and "My Bad" mean about the same thing... unless you're at a funeral
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Comment by Emerje
Sep 10, 2016
In some cases saying "repaint" is actually more accurate than saying "redeco". When coming up with a new design for an existing mold they'll often take the former finished figure and repaint it by hand in new colors to test the design.
Takara Tomy does this on a regular basis, taking a pre-existing Hasbro retail figure and painting over it in their new colors, making calling them repaints a little more valid.
Emerje
Takara Tomy does this on a regular basis, taking a pre-existing Hasbro retail figure and painting over it in their new colors, making calling them repaints a little more valid.
Emerje
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Comment by Terrsolpix
Sep 10, 2016
I just got my Computron today and I'm lovin it TM. Glad I got to insatead of the Hasbro release. I'm having wheeljack combiner peg issues but it is much less severe than on my hasbro wheeljack which skips a whole click because looseness. Modular weapons is absolutely brilliant, this better be a reoccurring trend. It's my first unite warriors set and it might have pushed me over the edge of Kittyking and/or Voltorion
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Another issue with Lightspeed's ratchet. Must be what JZGR said.
Comment by fenrir72
Sep 11, 2016
Terrsolpix wrote:I just got my Computron today and I'm lovin it TM. Glad I got to insatead of the Hasbro release. I'm having wheeljack combiner peg issues but it is much less severe than on my hasbro wheeljack which skips a whole click because looseness. Modular weapons is absolutely brilliant, this better be a reoccurring trend. It's my first unite warriors set and it might have pushed me over the edge of Kittyking and/or Voltorion
Another issue with Lightspeed's ratchet. Must be what JZGR said.
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If you think i'm not going to use mad to mean mad, you're mad. And if it makes you mad that I say mad to mean mad but not to mean mad, then you're mad.
It is accurate in that specific context but not as a catch-all term.
Comment by King Kuuga
Sep 11, 2016
william-james88 wrote:firefox91 wrote: No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.
Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad
If you think i'm not going to use mad to mean mad, you're mad. And if it makes you mad that I say mad to mean mad but not to mean mad, then you're mad.

Emerje wrote:In some cases saying "repaint" is actually more accurate than saying "redeco". When coming up with a new design for an existing mold they'll often take the former finished figure and repaint it by hand in new colors to test the design.
Takara Tomy does this on a regular basis, taking a pre-existing Hasbro retail figure and painting over it in their new colors, making calling them repaints a little more valid.
Emerje
It is accurate in that specific context but not as a catch-all term.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Sep 11, 2016
Repaint, Redeco, Remold, Retool, let's call the whole thing off. As long as the general intention of meaning is understood, there shouldn't be any problems. 
Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.
It's a bit insulting, really...

Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.
It's a bit insulting, really...
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Excuse me.....male privilege coming through....
For real though, may I ask why you find it insulting? As I look at it, it's simply saying that they're Woman/Female Decepticons, and that they combine. It's like in the G1 cartoon, when the Female Autobots appear. Chromia, Moonracer, Lancer, Greenlight, Firestar, Elita One.....their team name is the Female Autobots (at least according to TFWiki).
Anyway, to me, the only reason that there would be a team called Female Decepticons, is that it's not only comparatively rare to have female characters in fiction, but a team of them? Almost unheard of. So they're not just another Decepticon team. The only thing that makes them different than any other combiner team is the fact that they're female, so that fact is pointed to in the team name,
Comment by Bounti76
Sep 11, 2016
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Repaint, Redeco, Remold, Retool, let's call the whole thing off. As long as the general intention of meaning is understood, there shouldn't be any problems.
Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.
It's a bit insulting, really...
Excuse me.....male privilege coming through....

For real though, may I ask why you find it insulting? As I look at it, it's simply saying that they're Woman/Female Decepticons, and that they combine. It's like in the G1 cartoon, when the Female Autobots appear. Chromia, Moonracer, Lancer, Greenlight, Firestar, Elita One.....their team name is the Female Autobots (at least according to TFWiki).
Anyway, to me, the only reason that there would be a team called Female Decepticons, is that it's not only comparatively rare to have female characters in fiction, but a team of them? Almost unheard of. So they're not just another Decepticon team. The only thing that makes them different than any other combiner team is the fact that they're female, so that fact is pointed to in the team name,
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I think you may have just said it yourself. The Combaticons are all specialists in war. The Stunticons are all great drivers. The Constructicons are a team of builders and architects. This team name implies their gender is more noteworthy than any skills or abilities they may have.
Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...
Comment by Wreckgar
Sep 11, 2016
Bounti76 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Repaint, Redeco, Remold, Retool, let's call the whole thing off. As long as the general intention of meaning is understood, there shouldn't be any problems.
Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.
It's a bit insulting, really...
Excuse me.....male privilege coming through....![]()
For real though, may I ask why you find it insulting? As I look at it, it's simply saying that they're Woman/Female Decepticons, and that they combine. It's like in the G1 cartoon, when the Female Autobots appear. Chromia, Moonracer, Lancer, Greenlight, Firestar, Elita One.....their team name is the Female Autobots (at least according to TFWiki).
Anyway, to me, the only reason that there would be a team called Female Decepticons, is that it's not only comparatively rare to have female characters in fiction, but a team of them? Almost unheard of. So they're not just another Decepticon team. The only thing that makes them different than any other combiner team is the fact that they're female, so that fact is pointed to in the team name,
I think you may have just said it yourself. The Combaticons are all specialists in war. The Stunticons are all great drivers. The Constructicons are a team of builders and architects. This team name implies their gender is more noteworthy than any skills or abilities they may have.
Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...
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It's simple: unlike men, females can multitask. So they don't need a single specialization, they're female warriors, good at anything.
Comment by Sjeng
Sep 11, 2016
Wreckgar wrote:I think you may have just said it yourself. The Combaticons are all specialists in war. The Stunticons are all great drivers. The Constructicons are a team of builders and architects. This team name implies their gender is more noteworthy than any skills or abilities they may have.
It's simple: unlike men, females can multitask. So they don't need a single specialization, they're female warriors, good at anything.

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Save yourself before it's too late
Comment by Kurona
Sep 11, 2016
Wreckgar wrote:Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...
Save yourself before it's too late
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It may already be too late - there's no hiding emoji
Comment by Wreckgar
Sep 11, 2016
Kurona wrote:Wreckgar wrote:Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...
Save yourself before it's too late
It may already be too late - there's no hiding emoji