First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus

Thursday, February 27th, 2020 11:54PM CST

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Looks like we've got a few more Flame Toys Furai Models coming on the horizon. While not shown at Toy Fair this past weekend, scans uploaded to MyFigureCollection.net from what appears to be a Flame Toys catalog that might have been available at Toy Fair revealed a pair of familiar repaints. First is the Bumblebee with heli-pack kit in red coming in June. We don't get a whole lot of red recolors of Bumblebee that aren't Cliffjumper, but the repaints are pretty standard all the same. Next is our perennial Optimus Prime repaint, this time into "inner" Ultra Magnus. It's a good looking kit, but probably not quite the IDW representation most were hoping for. He'll be out sometime in August.

So what do you think about these newly revealed recolors? Good, bad or indifferent be sure to sound off in the Energon Pub forums!

Credit(s): MyFigureCollection.net

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Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054830)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 28th, 2020 @ 4:02am CST

Lazy repaints, but as expected.
I just find too bad that the UM kit won't be double sized with a removable armor. Even if the armor won't combine into something else, it would have been nice to have the option, even if the kit would have been double the price as a result.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054835)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 28th, 2020 @ 5:15am CST

A Sari kit would go down well, you could even include a simpler snap together piece to represent her child form to go along with her older self and robot form.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054836)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 28th, 2020 @ 5:21am CST

ZeroWolf wrote:A Sari kit would go down well, you could even include a simpler snap together piece to represent her child form to go along with her older self and robot form.

A 3 in one kit could also be nice.
Child, grown up, and combat form. This would make such a great display piece!

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054838)
Posted by Emerje on February 28th, 2020 @ 5:30am CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:Lazy repaints, but as expected.
I just find too bad that the UM kit won't be double sized with a removable armor. Even if the armor won't combine into something else, it would have been nice to have the option, even if the kit would have been double the price as a result.

That would be neat, but that sounds like something more fitting for the Kuro Kara Kuri figure line.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:A Sari kit would go down well, you could even include a simpler snap together piece to represent her child form to go along with her older self and robot form.

A 3 in one kit could also be nice.
Child, grown up, and combat form. This would make such a great display piece!

Seams like a great way for a sucker like me to buy the same figure three times. :-?

Emerje

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054840)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on February 28th, 2020 @ 7:11am CST

If we were to make requests, how about a T-AI Model Kit. I think she deserves some love since she only has one, maybe two figurines ever made for her

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054841)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 28th, 2020 @ 8:34am CST

grimdragon2001 wrote:If we were to make requests, how about a T-AI Model Kit. I think she deserves some love since she only has one, maybe two figurines ever made for her
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/353888541274537985/682937784314495252/290px-T-AI-colorsheet.jpg[/im]

I'd like it a lot too.
Because that miniature ecchi onsen scene is not enough.
Still, that's way more than what Sari ever got.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054843)
Posted by Cheesinator on February 28th, 2020 @ 9:03am CST

Which IDW version of Magnus is this meant to represent? Looks absolutely nothing like the More Than Meets The Eye character, but I'm guessing he looked different in All Hail Megatron or something?

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054845)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 28th, 2020 @ 9:22am CST

Cheesinator wrote:Which IDW version of Magnus is this meant to represent? Looks absolutely nothing like the More Than Meets The Eye character, but I'm guessing he looked different in All Hail Megatron or something?

What UM he's supposed to represent is irrelevant when an easy repaint can be done.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2054862)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 28th, 2020 @ 12:06pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cheesinator wrote:Which IDW version of Magnus is this meant to represent? Looks absolutely nothing like the More Than Meets The Eye character, but I'm guessing he looked different in All Hail Megatron or something?

What UM he's supposed to represent is irrelevant when an easy repaint can be done.

He's the Flame Toys equivalent of MP02.

That said, he could potentially represent the first Ultra Magnus' cab robot.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2055079)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 29th, 2020 @ 5:56pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cheesinator wrote:Which IDW version of Magnus is this meant to represent? Looks absolutely nothing like the More Than Meets The Eye character, but I'm guessing he looked different in All Hail Megatron or something?

What UM he's supposed to represent is irrelevant when an easy repaint can be done.
He's the Flame Toys equivalent of MP02.

That said, he could potentially represent the first Ultra Magnus' cab robot.

sort of this. IDW Magnus never looked like this, this is simply a Dreamwave Magnus situation

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2055251)
Posted by no-one on March 1st, 2020 @ 2:39pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cheesinator wrote:Which IDW version of Magnus is this meant to represent? Looks absolutely nothing like the More Than Meets The Eye character, but I'm guessing he looked different in All Hail Megatron or something?

What UM he's supposed to represent is irrelevant when an easy repaint can be done.
He's the Flame Toys equivalent of MP02.

That said, he could potentially represent the first Ultra Magnus' cab robot.

sort of this. IDW Magnus never looked like this, this is simply a Dreamwave Magnus situation

Release and add-on kit to armor Magnus up and I'm all in ;)^

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056326)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 10th, 2020 @ 8:12pm CDT

Thanks to a post from the Flame Toys Twitter page, we have news that another new image of the upcoming Kuro Kara Kuri IDW Stealth Bomber Megatron has been shared and the pre-orders will be hitting next week!

The IDW Stealth Bomber Megatron is the next in the line of Kuro Kara Kuri highly posable and detailed action figures, following the likes of Optimus Prime, Star Saber, and Drift. He is heavily based on the IDW Stealth Bomber Megatron design from back in the 2009-2011 ongoing, but with some additional stylings and a more spiky appearance. He will likely retail for around $450, which is approximately what the other Kuro Kara Kuri figures have gone for. Pre-Orders are expected to go up on March 16, next Monday.

Check out the image below, and stay tuned for the pre-order announcements!

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056328)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 10th, 2020 @ 8:15pm CDT

Gotta admit, he look phenomenal!

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056356)
Posted by healey7474 on March 11th, 2020 @ 5:43am CDT

looks Bloody Awesome..... but I have one that transforms.....seems a lot of money for a statue. but I guess there is a market for it.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056577)
Posted by Dorkimus on March 13th, 2020 @ 1:54pm CDT

Yeah..but this is not a statue.

highly posable and detailed action figures

...and these are awesome. I really don't care if these won't transform, specially since these current transforming official mp-toys are just a pain to transform. That's not even fun anymore. Many (not all) 3p companies do it better what comes to the transformation (and sadly, the quality), but these Flame toys figures have superb level of details in the bot mode...frankly the mode that most of us keep them anyways. Not to mention great articulation and poseability.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056580)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 13th, 2020 @ 2:11pm CDT

Dorkimus wrote:Yeah..but this is not a statue.

highly posable and detailed action figures

...and these are awesome. I really don't care if these won't transform, specially since these current transforming official mp-toys are just a pain to transform. That's not even fun anymore. Many (not all) 3p companies do it better what comes to the transformation (and sadly, the quality), but these Flame toys figures have superb level of details in the bot mode...frankly the mode that most of us keep them anyways. Not to mention great articulation and poseability.

Also the fact that because they don't have to transform, they can create the robot they want without any restrictions.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056642)
Posted by Skritz on March 14th, 2020 @ 12:41pm CDT

Man, Stealth Bomber IDW Megatron was such an amazing. It deserved a Voyager or Leader-class figure, not some ridiculously tiny and flimsy deluxe.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056645)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 14th, 2020 @ 1:02pm CDT

Well, there were a lot more Deluxe slots than there were Voyager slots, and Jetfire claimed the Leader slot - which was the first Leader slot we ever had in CHUG (previously we'd never gone above Ultra and most of what we had was Deluxes and occasional Voyagers). There's also the fact that a Deluxe lends itself better to repaint milking, of course.
They could have done a Leader version in Combiner Wars, but I'm guessing it was no longer anywhere near current (and Hasbro probably wanted to go with what they saw as the surer bet, a more traditional G1 Megs).

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056648)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 14th, 2020 @ 2:16pm CDT

Skritz wrote:Man, Stealth Bomber IDW Megatron was such an amazing. It deserved a Voyager or Leader-class figure, not some ridiculously tiny and flimsy deluxe.

Well, 3P got that covered.
But it would have been nice to see a an official leader.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056654)
Posted by Skritz on March 14th, 2020 @ 4:48pm CDT

I get the reasoning I'm just saying its an excellent design (both as a character design and basic toy transformation scheme) and its a shame Hasbro will probably never touch it again.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2056659)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 14th, 2020 @ 6:30pm CDT

Skritz wrote:I get the reasoning I'm just saying its an excellent design (both as a character design and basic toy transformation scheme) and its a shame Hasbro will probably never touch it again.

I don't know about that.
Never say never.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059184)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 3rd, 2020 @ 9:35pm CDT

Actually, Hasbro probably never SHOULD touch it again, and the molds for the time they did should be destroyed. Similarly, this kit should be canceled and destroyed. That or receive an enormous price hike to compensate Don Figeueroa not only for this use of the design but also for Andy Schmidt stealing the design and Hasbro making it into a toy without credit or compensation.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059221)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2020 @ 2:58am CDT

Why would they have to do either of those things? Hasbro clearly own the design so they can do what ever they want with it.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059223)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 4th, 2020 @ 3:50am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:Why would they have to do either of those things? Hasbro clearly own the design so they can do what ever they want with it.

Because the design was created by Don Figueroa. Andy Schmidt said he wanted to work out a deal with Don to use it, but then stood Don up and used the design in The Transformers #13 with no compensation or credit given to Don. Hasbro then compounded the art theft by making it into a toy - also without giving compensation or credit to Don.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059225)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2020 @ 4:02am CDT

Considering the time frame and the fact that the toy has been used three times (two Megatrons and a dreadwind) I'm going to guess that whatever legal battle (if pushed) was settled, hence why hasbro is allowing this. Also of consideration was Don working in any capacity for Hasbro at the time? They may have decided that the design already belonged to them (and if Don had signed a contract, then there is good chance that clause may have been in there). Obviously, if he wasn't then ignore that part.

Rubbish business practices? If course but it's par for the course these days in capitalism, and that's something that sending a letter to hasbro isn't going to fix as only a minority will ever care.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059227)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 4th, 2020 @ 4:07am CDT

But do you know who might care, if they're aware of the issue? Fans. Which is why I brought it up here. After all, unless a buyout happened that I don't know about I'm pretty sure that Seibertron is a fan forum, not a Hasbro comment box

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059231)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2020 @ 4:50am CDT

But do fans care? It's been almost ten years since megs debuted that form, that's been more then enough time for them to deal legal issues.
Actually I did some digging, this is a very interesting thread to read as it was discussed here before, many moons ago.
Here's the thread

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059236)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 4th, 2020 @ 6:02am CDT

One thing for sure.

I don't care for petty legal battles of any kind from whoever. And I'm pretty sure I'm in the majority.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059399)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 6th, 2020 @ 10:45am CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:One thing for sure.

I don't care for petty legal battles of any kind from whoever. And I'm pretty sure I'm in the majority.

I'm pretty much in this boat too. If this was the original toy and time, i would care a bit more, but it has been so long now, I don't.

Also, got 5 new kits to build, and I'm going to start with Megatron and Devastator, and then go for SG Prime, Drift, and finally Skywarp

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059439)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Also, got 5 new kits to build, and I'm going to start with Megatron and Devastator, and then go for SG Prime, Drift, and finally Skywarp

Once you're done, make sure to post pictures.
I expect hot thrusting crotch action! 8-)

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059726)
Posted by ThunderThruster on April 7th, 2020 @ 4:29pm CDT

I'm actually torn on whether to get Skywarp or Thundercraker. I have no need or desire to get both, I'm just unsure on which I'd prefer more.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059728)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 7th, 2020 @ 4:36pm CDT

Which colour scheme do you find more eye catching?

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059737)
Posted by ThunderThruster on April 7th, 2020 @ 5:24pm CDT

I do seem to be drawn more to Thundercracker's colour scheme in this instance.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059867)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 8th, 2020 @ 11:14am CDT

ThunderThruster wrote:I do seem to be drawn more to Thundercracker's colour scheme in this instance.

I haven't build Skywarp yet, but I have done Thundercracker and Starscream, and to me Thundercracker is the best of the 3 color wise. But again, I haven't build Skywarp yet to see the color in full

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059923)
Posted by Burn on April 8th, 2020 @ 3:10pm CDT

Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059924)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 8th, 2020 @ 3:13pm CDT

Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia.

That doesn't sound very fun to me.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059941)
Posted by Burn on April 8th, 2020 @ 4:09pm CDT

If you haven't realised by now that I'm powered by pure sarcasm ... that's on you. :wink:

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059942)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 8th, 2020 @ 4:10pm CDT

Burn wrote:If you haven't realised by now that I'm powered by pure sarcasm ... that's on you.

Oh I gathered, but "That fact is not fun" is one of my favourite stock gags and...Yeah I'll see myself out. :lol:

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2059965)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 8th, 2020 @ 5:54pm CDT

Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia.

Is there a kit that you have been trying to find in particular?

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2060090)
Posted by Burn on April 10th, 2020 @ 4:06am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia.

Is there a kit that you have been trying to find in particular?

I was bored, figured it'd be something to do in my spare time between work, what with new TV shows not happening these days.

I would have gone for the seekers, but eh.

I found Metal Earth Optimus Prime in one of the unpacked boxes. I guess by the time I'm done I won't need a face mask to stop me from touching my face because my fingers won't be touching anything.

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2060114)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 10th, 2020 @ 10:34am CDT

Burn wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Burn wrote:Fun fact.

These are really hard to find in Australia.

Is there a kit that you have been trying to find in particular?

I was bored, figured it'd be something to do in my spare time between work, what with new TV shows not happening these days.

I would have gone for the seekers, but eh.

I found Metal Earth Optimus Prime in one of the unpacked boxes. I guess by the time I'm done I won't need a face mask to stop me from touching my face because my fingers won't be touching anything.

Honestly, I think their seeker mold is the weakest of the kits they have put out so far (yet I got all 3, huh) so I think you ended up doing well missing that mold

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2067879)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 13th, 2020 @ 10:13pm CDT

Finally built my first kit in a while, and I could not be happier with it. IDW Megatron is one of my favorite IDW characters, and this kit is so solid. He turned out really good, great build too. Had some help from my pupper Frankie too

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2067883)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 13th, 2020 @ 11:00pm CDT

Nice build!

Still, I don't like that Megatron as the Megatron it's supposed to be.

But as a YOUNG version of himself, like a "teen" Megatron (like Orion Pax was to Optimus Prime) it work a lot!

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2067998)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 14th, 2020 @ 10:13pm CDT

Broke out Magnus and some of the purely IDW guys for a group shot. And I love it. This is a group I am in love with and could not be happier with. IDW Megatron is my favorite fictional take on Megatron, he has the best character and the best story to him, and this kit is that love for that character personified as a fantastic toy.

also worked on Devastator today and he came out great!

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2068097)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 15th, 2020 @ 4:13pm CDT

Holy. Crap.

This Devastator kit is so much fun. I had a blast building it, and now posing him around? It is a lot of fun. Much more fun than any of the other "attack mode" styled bots yet. He's a blast!

And so expressive!

"It should be a crime for my ass to be this sexy"

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2068101)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 15th, 2020 @ 4:39pm CDT

Stop it! You're making me want him :lol:

I wish the kits weren't so expensive to import

Re: First Look at Furai Model Red Bumblebee and IDW Ultra Magnus (2068102)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 15th, 2020 @ 4:42pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:Stop it! You're making me want him I wish the kits weren't so expensive to import

There's definitely a cost for what they are, but they are worth it to me. I think Devastator and Megatron are my 2 favorite. I need to mess with Bee again, I like him too.

Thing is, I learned and finally applied to these 2 new kits: I do not follow the sticker instructions anymore. Devastator only had half his stickers put where they were supposed to go. It really helped get rid of peeling stickers and allowed for more creativity, and I've enjoyed him more for this matter.

I wish he were a bit bigger, but damn is he good

"Alas, Poor Scorponok! I knew him well..."