Mark Maher wrote:Do you believe?!?!Here he is folks, in all of his cybertronian glory! COSMOS!
Lets get into it! For capsule programs and the mainline as a whole, we have certain allocated funds for new molds. I wanted a Cosmos badly, to further finish the deluxe minibots collection, but just because I love this guy. His voice, design aesthetic, colors, and especially his alt mode are all fire.
Swipe right and you will see how I sold him in as a partial tool using the Origins BB mold. He would of been more of a new rendition of him. I just didnt think a g1 version of him was possible with the tooling allocated. But TT made it happen All NEW in 3 molds!!!
Ittoku Kuwazu worked closely with Hasui Shogo in making this guy the best Cosmos evah! I chimed in on making the flag alt as a blaster and really worked hard on getting the proportions as close to his animation appearance as possible. As you can see from block model to final look, a lot had to happen. But with our great partnership this guy is ready to officiate the Speedia 500.
Let me know who you are routing for to become the new leader of Velocitron!!!
Hasbro Designer Reveals Velocitron Cosmos was Initially Based on Cybertronian Bumblebee Mold
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Jun 30, 2022 at 3:17pm CDT
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Re: Hasbro Designer Reveals Velocitron Cosmos was Initially Based on Cybertronian Bumblebee Mold
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Comment by sol magnus
Jun 30, 2022
Very cool! From retool to original mold.
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Comment by Mr.MicroMaster
Jun 30, 2022
Cosmos looks amazing!
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 30, 2022
That partially explains where the retool rumors come from for new-mold figures: pitched as a retool, but reworked into an all-new mold. 

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Comment by cruizerdave
Jun 30, 2022
That Cosmos looks terrible. Just like the animation model.
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Comment by MCutter
Jun 30, 2022
That Origins Bee version of Cosmos is definitely a "What could have been." The proportions of the alt-mode they ended up with just look wrong to me; like a trash can on a pitcher's mound.
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Comment by Brokebot
Jun 30, 2022
It doesn't matter who he was patterned after. That saucer mode looks like a stylized trashcan.
Dumbest Cosmos evah!
Dumbest Cosmos evah!

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Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery

Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
The top does seem tall compared to the G1 original.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 30, 2022

Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery

Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
The top does seem tall compared to the G1 original.
Re: Hasbro Designer Reveals Velocitron Cosmos was Initially Based on Cybertronian Bumblebee Mold
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it's about 1/4 taller than the animation model it's patterned after, which is taller than the original toy.
Comment by sol magnus
Jun 30, 2022
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
The top does seem tall compared to the G1 original.
it's about 1/4 taller than the animation model it's patterned after, which is taller than the original toy.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Jun 30, 2022
The taller body also makes it loose its visual reference to the infamous ufo fakes the design was based on 
It is fun seeing this process though and looking at the rough prototypes.

It is fun seeing this process though and looking at the rough prototypes.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 30, 2022
It's a shame that it uses the color scheme of the fan-colored Ukrainian model.
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Comment by Rodimus Prime
Jun 30, 2022
The saucer mode is still too tall. It looks good in robot mode so I'll probably get it, but this figure is far from a great piece.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jun 30, 2022
I want that cosmos, but due to the Bullcrap that is the exclusivity of the Velocitron line, I may never be able to get it at normal retail.
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Are you really willing to sacrifice the bot mode for a kinda better, but not great saucer mode? I'm not.

For me the saucer is "good enough" and the bot mode is nearly perfect. I don't think I would have been very happy with a skinny, lanky Cosmos just so he'd have an objectively better alt mode. The top of the saucer being off center on the proposed figure would have always bugged me.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jun 30, 2022
MCutter wrote:That Origins Bee version of Cosmos is definitely a "What could have been." The proportions of the alt-mode they ended up with just look wrong to me; like a trash can on a pitcher's mound.
Are you really willing to sacrifice the bot mode for a kinda better, but not great saucer mode? I'm not.

For me the saucer is "good enough" and the bot mode is nearly perfect. I don't think I would have been very happy with a skinny, lanky Cosmos just so he'd have an objectively better alt mode. The top of the saucer being off center on the proposed figure would have always bugged me.
Emerje
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It not being a circle would have bugged me too
Comment by william-james88
Jun 30, 2022
Emerje wrote:MCutter wrote:That Origins Bee version of Cosmos is definitely a "What could have been." The proportions of the alt-mode they ended up with just look wrong to me; like a trash can on a pitcher's mound.
Are you really willing to sacrifice the bot mode for a perfect saucer mode? I'm not.
For me the saucer is "good enough" and the bot mode is nearly perfect. I don't think I would have been very happy with a skinny, lanky Cosmos just so he'd have an objectively better alt mode. The top of the saucer being off center on the proposed figure would have always bugged me.
Emerje
It not being a circle would have bugged me too
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Comment by Till-all-R1
Jun 30, 2022
Maybe I'll just wait it out for the eventual retool in two years, since this is Walmart Exclusive and I've not had that great of luck finding them anyway. Definitely not paying the after market price for it though!
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Comment by Nemesis Primal
Jul 1, 2022
Behind-the-Scenes Mark has confirmed that Override is the exact same situation as Cosmos was in terms of starting as a retool until Takara stepped in, originally based this time on SS86 Hot Rod (which explains/confirms the early leak): https://www.instagram.com/p/CfcoUaVuAhk ... MyMTA2M2Y=
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Jul 1, 2022
Takara need to step in more
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2022
"This is a great example of what Legacy is all about, who would of thought we’d dig deep into the ol Cybertron series eh"
Dig deep? Override is not some deep-cut obscure Cybertron character. She was one of the series main characters. A Convoy, no less. Digging deep would have been if they'd made someone like Signal Lancer, a cartoon-only cameo character who never got a toy. Or a toy-only character like Hardtop or Shortround.
Dig deep? Override is not some deep-cut obscure Cybertron character. She was one of the series main characters. A Convoy, no less. Digging deep would have been if they'd made someone like Signal Lancer, a cartoon-only cameo character who never got a toy. Or a toy-only character like Hardtop or Shortround.
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Ha, yeas, Override is not what I would call a deep cut into Cybertron lore.
Maybe if it had been, I don't know, Coby Ramble or Longrack... maybe..
Comment by Overcracker
Jul 1, 2022
Sabrblade wrote:"This is a great example of what Legacy is all about, who would of thought we’d dig deep into the ol Cybertron series eh"
Dig deep? Override is not some deep-cut obscure Cybertron character. She was one of the series main characters. A Convoy, no less. Digging deep would have been if they'd made someone like Signal Lancer, a cartoon-only cameo character who never got a toy. Or a toy-only character like Hardtop or Shortround.
Ha, yeas, Override is not what I would call a deep cut into Cybertron lore.
Maybe if it had been, I don't know, Coby Ramble or Longrack... maybe..
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Comment by chuckdawg1999
Jul 1, 2022
I had read another article that Cosmos has some Huffer in there, somewhere.