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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 31, 2018
Hoo boy, there's a LOT to unload in these two comics.
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Comment by Randomhero
Mar 31, 2018
Well doesn’t look like Zarak will get a toy. Wasn’t really expecting it but if he’s a one and done thing than yea it’s just sakamoto being fun.
Can’t wait for the translations and please takara! Make a book of all this!
Can’t wait for the translations and please takara! Make a book of all this!
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Actually collected version would be very welcome indeed...a translated one even more so
Comment by ZeroWolf
Mar 31, 2018
Randomhero wrote:Well doesn’t look like Zarak will get a toy. Wasn’t really expecting it but if he’s a one and done thing than yea it’s just sakamoto being fun.
Can’t wait for the translations and please takara! Make a book of all this!
Actually collected version would be very welcome indeed...a translated one even more so
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Comment by WreckerJack
Mar 31, 2018
I thought for a second that Black Shadow (Sky Shadow for some) was finally featured in something. But nope. I don't know my takara characters evidently...
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Its ok, I thought it was optimus on that operating table for a second, due to the faceplate.
Comment by william-james88
Mar 31, 2018
WreckerJack wrote:I thought for a second that Black Shadow (Sky Shadow for some) was finally featured in something. But nope. I don't know my takara characters evidently...
Its ok, I thought it was optimus on that operating table for a second, due to the faceplate.
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Comment by Randomhero
Mar 31, 2018
Summary from tfwiki
Greatshot
In the year 2022 of the G1 World, Marissa Faireborn is leading an Earth Defense Command force against the last holdout of the Concurrence when she's assisted by a mysterious starship. The Autobot First Army are similarly aided by a tank while battling on the surface on the moon, and by the end of the battle, they have collected reports of six of these mysterious Transformers appearing out of nowhere to help them. Star Saber, returning after being cleared of false charges, clears up that their benefactor is not six warriors, but one warrior with six modes: his friend Greatshot.
Months earlier, Star Saber thanks Sixshot for breaking him out of jail by gifting him a new transtector, telling him to use it to take on the new identity "Greatshot" in order continue to fake his death and avoid the Six Clan's wrath. Sixshot accepts his offer and promises to join the Autobots in the future, but for now he remains in the Legends World to work with Giga on using Shinchōkon to resurrect Jack. As Overlord, Giga infuses Sixshot with the energy and explains that they will replicate the miracle of Megatron returning to life in a smaller body, but there is a caveat: this method of resurrection requires a body, so Sixshot will have to give his up for Jack to inhabit. The process succeeds and Jack comes back to life as a Headmaster while Sixshot's soul is instead transferred into the transtector, fully turning him into Greatshot. Remembering his evil deeds, particularly his role in Jack's death and yet how Chromedome was still willing to help him, Greatshot drives Jack to Chromedome and watches their tearful reunion. Since Greatshot still needs a head to function properly, Jack magnanimously decides to be his Headmaster partner and returns to the G1 World where the two are embroiled in the battle with the Concurrence.
Greatshot is uninterested in helping the EDC, believing himself unsuited for being a hero, but Jack convinces him to see it as atonement, guilting him by reminding him he's talking to someone he murdered. He relents and travels to the battlefield, where he's reunited with Star Saber and allows him to ride his rhino mode into battle before borrowing his swords and using them to destroy the Concurrence's base. With the Concurrence defeated, Spike reclaims his spot as Galactic Peace Alliance chairman and Daniel and Bumblebee return safely as well. Greatshot eventually gets his own head and becomes a proper Transformer again, allowing Jack to return to Chromedome's side, and goes on to fight the Decepticons alongside Star Saber. In 2026, he is gravely injured during the Silvart War and again accepts his fate as atonement for his past, muttering goodbyes to Daniel, Star Saber and Jack as he awaits his death. To his surprise, however, those very people and many others suddenly come to his aid, having been looking for him since his disappearance. Slipping back into his old Sixshot speech pattern, Greatshot admits that having friends isn't so bad.
Greatshot
In the year 2022 of the G1 World, Marissa Faireborn is leading an Earth Defense Command force against the last holdout of the Concurrence when she's assisted by a mysterious starship. The Autobot First Army are similarly aided by a tank while battling on the surface on the moon, and by the end of the battle, they have collected reports of six of these mysterious Transformers appearing out of nowhere to help them. Star Saber, returning after being cleared of false charges, clears up that their benefactor is not six warriors, but one warrior with six modes: his friend Greatshot.
Months earlier, Star Saber thanks Sixshot for breaking him out of jail by gifting him a new transtector, telling him to use it to take on the new identity "Greatshot" in order continue to fake his death and avoid the Six Clan's wrath. Sixshot accepts his offer and promises to join the Autobots in the future, but for now he remains in the Legends World to work with Giga on using Shinchōkon to resurrect Jack. As Overlord, Giga infuses Sixshot with the energy and explains that they will replicate the miracle of Megatron returning to life in a smaller body, but there is a caveat: this method of resurrection requires a body, so Sixshot will have to give his up for Jack to inhabit. The process succeeds and Jack comes back to life as a Headmaster while Sixshot's soul is instead transferred into the transtector, fully turning him into Greatshot. Remembering his evil deeds, particularly his role in Jack's death and yet how Chromedome was still willing to help him, Greatshot drives Jack to Chromedome and watches their tearful reunion. Since Greatshot still needs a head to function properly, Jack magnanimously decides to be his Headmaster partner and returns to the G1 World where the two are embroiled in the battle with the Concurrence.
Greatshot is uninterested in helping the EDC, believing himself unsuited for being a hero, but Jack convinces him to see it as atonement, guilting him by reminding him he's talking to someone he murdered. He relents and travels to the battlefield, where he's reunited with Star Saber and allows him to ride his rhino mode into battle before borrowing his swords and using them to destroy the Concurrence's base. With the Concurrence defeated, Spike reclaims his spot as Galactic Peace Alliance chairman and Daniel and Bumblebee return safely as well. Greatshot eventually gets his own head and becomes a proper Transformer again, allowing Jack to return to Chromedome's side, and goes on to fight the Decepticons alongside Star Saber. In 2026, he is gravely injured during the Silvart War and again accepts his fate as atonement for his past, muttering goodbyes to Daniel, Star Saber and Jack as he awaits his death. To his surprise, however, those very people and many others suddenly come to his aid, having been looking for him since his disappearance. Slipping back into his old Sixshot speech pattern, Greatshot admits that having friends isn't so bad.
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Comment by Randomhero
Mar 31, 2018
While it’s always been a fan theory Greatshot is sixshot it’s never been canon however this comic makes it official that Sixshot became Greatshot between Headmaster and victory.
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The pose also made me think of the 1986 movie where Optimus was on the operating table too.
Comment by WreckerJack
Mar 31, 2018
william-james88 wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I thought for a second that Black Shadow (Sky Shadow for some) was finally featured in something. But nope. I don't know my takara characters evidently...
Its ok, I thought it was optimus on that operating table for a second, due to the faceplate.
The pose also made me think of the 1986 movie where Optimus was on the operating table too.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 31, 2018
In a sort of "Megatron/Galvatron", "God Ginrai/Victory Leo", "Tigatron & Airazor/Tigerhawk", "Tigerhawk/Razorclaw" kind of way, yeah.Randomhero wrote:While it’s always been a fan theory Greatshot is sixshot it’s never been canon however this comic makes it official that Sixshot became Greatshot between Headmaster and victory.
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And I don't like that one single bit.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Mar 31, 2018
Sabrblade wrote:In a sort of "Megatron/Galvatron", "God Ginrai/Victory Leo", "Tigatron & Airazor/Tigerhawk", "Tigerhawk/Razorclaw" kind of way, yeah.Randomhero wrote:While it’s always been a fan theory Greatshot is sixshot it’s never been canon however this comic makes it official that Sixshot became Greatshot between Headmaster and victory.
And I don't like that one single bit.

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And people to this day still argue over whether Galvatron is a new guy from Megatron or still Megatron at his core, so even that's still not so clear-cut to some.
Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 31, 2018
Fear not, for Sixshot and Greatshot are still separate people in other continuities like IDW and the Pop-Up Universe, so it's even more like the case of "God Ginrai/Victory Leo" than the others.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In a sort of "Megatron/Galvatron", "God Ginrai/Victory Leo", "Tigatron & Airazor/Tigerhawk", "Tigerhawk/Razorclaw" kind of way, yeah.Randomhero wrote:While it’s always been a fan theory Greatshot is sixshot it’s never been canon however this comic makes it official that Sixshot became Greatshot between Headmaster and victory.
And I don't like that one single bit.
And people to this day still argue over whether Galvatron is a new guy from Megatron or still Megatron at his core, so even that's still not so clear-cut to some.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 1, 2018
And here comes the Grand Maximus manga summary, and boy is it a DOOZY!
The Autobot Matrix of Leadership records the bearer's life and experiences, their "wisdom", and converts it into an all-purpose form of energy. It was created by Primacron, a scientist said to have existed since the dawn of time, who built it into his assistant, the Oracle, before they went on to create the ultimate planet robot, Unicron. Upon learning that the wisdom of the Matrix was the only thing that could match his power, Unicron rebelled against Primacron and destroyed the Oracle, who survived by transferring his being into the Matrix. He fled to the center of the galaxy and emptied the Matrix into a planet, becoming an embodiment of its wisdom and fusing with the world that would one day become Cybertron. The planet was later settled by the Quintessons, who discovered the Oracle's power and confined it within Vector Sigma, a supercomputer they controlled using a Key with which they then mechanized the planet. The aliens used Vector Sigma to manufacture intelligent slave robots who later rose up and claimed the planet for themselves, recovering the Matrix in the process. Finding it full of evil energy after years of absorbing the Quintessons' wisdom, they emptied it out and disposed of the energy.
This is the story told by Devil Z, who is none other than that very discarded Matrix energy! During police interrogation, the captured being explains that his motive is revenge against the universe for being discarded, and that thousands of years ago he stole unprogrammed Powermaster bodies from the G Nebula 89 factory and brought them to Earth to be infused with the planet's Zodiac and Angolmois energies, transforming them into Godmasters. Furthermore, he himself absorbed the same energies to evolve: the true meaning of his name is "Devil Zodiac". With this revelation, he taps into Shinchōkon, breaks his restraints and summons the brainwashed Scorponok from the G1 World, where he's been busy enslaving Beastformers and using them to build a new BlackZarak transtector. With Scorponok as his Headmaster and Devil Z in his abdomen as a Getmaster power source, BlackZarak makes short work of the Decepticon Headmasters when Mindwipe attempts to exorcise Devil Z, then announces his plan—he will kill all beings in the Legends World so that its energies will feed only him: Devil Z will become the Legends World and use its Shinchōkon to dominate other universes. Katsu Don explains that this is why he wanted to destroy the world entirely, its energies being dangerous to fall into the wrong hands.
Gran then arrives through a portal to battle Devil Z, leaving his human Pretender shell to form the head of Grand. Devil Z doesn't understand why a robot would transform into a human, so Grand explains that he's a follower of their creator's, the Oracle's, belief that true peace can only be achieved when machines and living beings come together. It all began with the Oracle himself being a beast-type robot who believed that infusing machines with life, thus granting robots instincts, was the road to peace. His first creations were the Trans-Organics, failures who only inherited the rage of wild beasts and cruelty of machines, but in recent years the Transformers have come far and invented the Powermaster fusion between robots and humans. Grand hopes that one day, they will come so far as to create a new type of life that is equally organic and mechanical. Speaking through a Synapse, the computer of the G Nebula factory explains that it was created by the Oracle for the purpose of pursuing this goal after he was forced by the Quintessons to create purely mechanical beings. Its research has led to the creation of the many Masterforce warriors who now activate their suits and join the fray.
Grand has built a new Grand Maximus transtector the same size as Fortress's for the sake of battling BlackZarak, causing Fortress to protest since his brother doesn't have the training to control it, but Grand is intent on showing that he can be just as useful. He forms Grand Maximus and joins forces with the Shinchōkon-powered God Ginrai wielding a combined Shaoshao, Sue, and White Lune, exclaiming that if even Devil Z is wielding the power of the gods in Shinchōkon, they can overcome it with their Super-God Masterforce! After spouting some platitudes that true strength lies in the pursuit of peace, Grand Maximus cleaves BlackZarak in two. He then chastises the Zamojin for trying to destroy the world, telling them that'd make them as bad as Devil Z and that the people of the Legends World can overcome any danger as long they work together. Plus, he can't let them destroy the only world where Fortress's condition can be treated. Grand finally reaches his limit and collapses, and when Fortress comes to his aid, he expresses his amazement that his brother does this sort of thing all the time and jokes that at least they can now receive treatment together.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Apr 1, 2018
That story is epic, a lot to take in their, the way some of it unfolded would make you believe it was intended that way from the very beginning.
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Comment by william-james88
Apr 1, 2018
Wait a sec, did his story just retcon the history of everything we know on the origin of Transformers?
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Comment by grimdragon2001
Apr 1, 2018
Soooooooooooo, Primacron's assistant, the Oracle is Primus?
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In all honesty, a lot of the fleshed out details of this history recounting are quite similar to the previous original attempt to weave Primus into the Quintesson origin story done by 3H in the BotCon 2001-OTFCC 2003 Wreckers comics.
Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 1, 2018
Not entirely. Kiss Players Position and the big 2006/2007 Takara G1 timeline were the first to make a lot of these retcons. This manga is just elaborating a few more details on some of them. If anything, the biggest reveals here are the explanation for how the Matrix fits in to the Primacron/Oracle/Unicron backstory (since its brief appearance in that G1 episode went unexplained for all these years) and the full origin of Devil Z, whose origin was never fully known before now.william-james88 wrote:Wait a sec, did his story just retcon the history of everything we know on the origin of Transformers?
Yes. Kiss Players Position first confirmed this by its having Primacron's assistant, the Oracle, become Primus, who then became Vector Sigma.grimdragon2001 wrote:Soooooooooooo, Primacron's assistant, the Oracle is Primus?

In all honesty, a lot of the fleshed out details of this history recounting are quite similar to the previous original attempt to weave Primus into the Quintesson origin story done by 3H in the BotCon 2001-OTFCC 2003 Wreckers comics.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Apr 1, 2018
Still trying to decide how I feel about Greatshot being a new good guy Sixshot. Definitely interesting
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I thought kiss players was all about alternators that came with underage girls in odd positions.
Comment by william-james88
Apr 1, 2018
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. Kiss Players Position first confirmed this by its having Primacron's assistant, the Oracle, become Primus, who then became Vector Sigma.grimdragon2001 wrote:Soooooooooooo, Primacron's assistant, the Oracle is Primus?
I thought kiss players was all about alternators that came with underage girls in odd positions.
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Kiss Players was a story about the EDC declaring war against the Transformers after Galvatron's corpse devastated Tokyo and a few Autobots went on the run from the EDC, with it eventually being revealed that the head of the EDC was a corrupt woman who had it in for the Transformers after her daughter was killed in the destruction caused by Galvatron. The best comparison I can make for this story is like Captain America: The Winter Soldier, in which the good guy governmental organization is secretly run by a clandestine evil with is own less than ethical goals, while the heroes are sent on the run and made into public enemies by those they're supposed to have place their trust in.
Kiss Players Position, the sequel (and which was significantly less skeevy that its predecessor), was a story about the Kiss Player girls (who aren't underage, they're just drawn that way) being recruited by a mysterious trio called the Sparkbots to join them on a multiversal scavenger hunt to retrieve pieces of something the Sparkbots claim to be the "Allspark", but as the group ventures across time, space, and worlds, a mysterious force seeks to stop them, and it's revealed that the Sparkbots lied to the girls and instead used them to try to revive Unicron, with the mysterious force that was trying to stop them all revealed to be Primus. Primus and the Kiss Players team up against the Sparkbots, who succeed in nearly reviving Unicron on prehistoric Earth (albeit, at a point after the Beast Wars were long over), but Primus defeats the freshly-resurrected Unicron and seals him and the Sparkbots away within the Earth as Angolmois Energy, and creates Brave Maximus to watch over the Angolmois Energy and keep it in check. Primus then returns to Cybertron to become Vector Sigma while the girls are sent back to their native time.
The whole story can be read in summarized form here. There's a lot of fascinating, interesting stuff in there that gets easily overlooked by all the pornographic skeeviness that was deliberately put in to make Kiss Players the most shocking and distressing TF series ever. But take all that grossness out, and we're left with one story that's like a governmental spy thriller that challenges the notion of who can really be trusted, and another story that's full of nerdy references and multiversal fun.
Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 1, 2018
There were two storylines.william-james88 wrote:I thought kiss players was all about alternators that came with underage girls in odd positions.
Kiss Players was a story about the EDC declaring war against the Transformers after Galvatron's corpse devastated Tokyo and a few Autobots went on the run from the EDC, with it eventually being revealed that the head of the EDC was a corrupt woman who had it in for the Transformers after her daughter was killed in the destruction caused by Galvatron. The best comparison I can make for this story is like Captain America: The Winter Soldier, in which the good guy governmental organization is secretly run by a clandestine evil with is own less than ethical goals, while the heroes are sent on the run and made into public enemies by those they're supposed to have place their trust in.
Kiss Players Position, the sequel (and which was significantly less skeevy that its predecessor), was a story about the Kiss Player girls (who aren't underage, they're just drawn that way) being recruited by a mysterious trio called the Sparkbots to join them on a multiversal scavenger hunt to retrieve pieces of something the Sparkbots claim to be the "Allspark", but as the group ventures across time, space, and worlds, a mysterious force seeks to stop them, and it's revealed that the Sparkbots lied to the girls and instead used them to try to revive Unicron, with the mysterious force that was trying to stop them all revealed to be Primus. Primus and the Kiss Players team up against the Sparkbots, who succeed in nearly reviving Unicron on prehistoric Earth (albeit, at a point after the Beast Wars were long over), but Primus defeats the freshly-resurrected Unicron and seals him and the Sparkbots away within the Earth as Angolmois Energy, and creates Brave Maximus to watch over the Angolmois Energy and keep it in check. Primus then returns to Cybertron to become Vector Sigma while the girls are sent back to their native time.
The whole story can be read in summarized form here. There's a lot of fascinating, interesting stuff in there that gets easily overlooked by all the pornographic skeeviness that was deliberately put in to make Kiss Players the most shocking and distressing TF series ever. But take all that grossness out, and we're left with one story that's like a governmental spy thriller that challenges the notion of who can really be trusted, and another story that's full of nerdy references and multiversal fun.
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Comment by Va'al
Apr 2, 2018
Courtesy of Seibertronian Powered Convoy, we have some scans of the pack-in manga issues from the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends series that accompany the release of LG65 Targetmaster TwinTwist with Spoil and LG66 Targetmaster Topspin with Peaceman, including the combined vehicle mode we had previously seen on the online prologue here.
Included below are scans of the comics, summaries of the same via TFWiki, and bios for both figures (as they form part of the comics booklet) - check it all out, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!




Included below are scans of the comics, summaries of the same via TFWiki, and bios for both figures (as they form part of the comics booklet) - check it all out, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!
Katsu Don makes another attempt at destroying the Legends World using Windblade as well as the mutant Autobot Targetmasters, who Windblade can manipulate through her bond with Pinpointer. The Wreckers arrive from the post-G2 era to aid in the world's defense only to be pinned down by the Targetmasters, and when Twin Twist breaks off to take on Windblade by himself, he gets decapitated. However, Twin Twist is aware of the Zodiac's existence in the Legends World and somehow calls it to his side, using its power to transform his severed head into a Headmaster and his body into a Z Mode "Drill Base" that in turn uses its drills to generate electromagnetic waves that sever Windblade's connection to Spoilsport. Twin Twist grabs the Targetmaster and, revealing that his special ability is to grant any weapon the properties of a drill, unleashes a "Spoil Drill Hurricane" attack against Windblade that frees Peacemaker from her control.
Chromedome is surprised that Twin Twist can freely control Zodiac energy, and Springer explains that he and Topspin are space pioneers known as the Powered Masters... as well as the true creators of the Legends World. The two Jumpstarters tell Katsu Don "long time no see" and invite him to test who's stronger—them, the creators of this world, or Windblade, its destroyer.


In the year 2004 of the G1 World, Topspin and Twin Twist hear about the Legends World from Whirl and Roadbuster, and as space pioneers and Powered Masters, think it would be nice to establish a paradise of a world someday. Decades later in the G2 era, they two are asked by Katsu Don for their cooperation in creating an experimental new universe also named "Legends", and realize he must be talking about the same world since time has no meaning when it comes to alternate dimensions. Concluding that they must create the Legends World or else Whirl and Roadbuster will never be born, they steal the Zodiac, inspired by Dai Atlas's using it to create a new planet in Planet Z's solar system, and use it in conjunction with Zamojin telepathic powers and the Space Pirates' proton energy to create the Legends World.
Katsu Don is outraged that the Jumpstarters have broken their promise not to interfere with their creation and sics Windblade on Topspin, but he easily avoids her thanks to having used the Zodiac to become a Headmaster—this combined with being a Powered Master and Targetmaster grants him the power of a Triplemaster—and calls upon the Zodiac to recreate everything Windblade and the Targetmasters have destroyed. Katsu Don himself enters the fray, insisting that the Legends World is dangerous because of its connection to the powers of the Zamojin and must be destroyed, but the Jumpstarters, determined to defend their creation, combine into a vehicle form known as Attack Powered and soundly defeat him and Windblade. With Windblade restored to normal once again and Katsu Don captured, Springer assumes all's well that ends well. However, the Jumpstarters, now having recovered all three mutant Targetmasters, tell him it's not over yet...

