Important Info on Red Cog that Hasbro Wants you to Know

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Also it's not like any of the toys are inherently bad choices. I don't plan to get them, but I think Prime Arcee,Bulkhead, Tarantulas, G2 Prime etc... All look great, and hope they keep the variety coming

While I am glad the toys exist for anyone who wants them and likes them, I will say that I am not fond of those Prime toys like Bulkhead, Arcee and Knock Out. The toys seem fine as toys, but interestingly, those are all molds I will surely experience through redecos or p/retools if I fid them more invoking of the character they represent. Because as the are now, I am not a fan. I liked Prime, I liked the toyline and the show, a lot. And I personally find it a disservice that we are now in an era where we can have toys that look like the show and the only era in Legacy that doesn't do that is for the Prime characters. The G2 characters look like their G2 selves, the BW characters also look like how they did on the show, and the whole point of this new Menasor is that they are going out of their way to be show accurate (which seems to be a gamble that paid off), leaving the Prime characters at odds. It's also odd that the listing specified them as coming from the Prime Universe (which at least for Bulkhead did need clarification) and yet they get the neo G1 treatment. And sure, I will concede that we do have a good enough show accurate Prime Arcee and Bulkhead to contend with in the past but that is not the case with Knock Out. All to say I wont be buying any of those toys.

william-james88 wrote:Yeah that's right, Metroplex is faithfull too.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yeah that's right, Metroplex is faithfull too.

Only to an extent, though. Like I said, he still has some small deviations from his cartoon design that look to be mainly aesthetic differences rather than anything necessary.

Sure, I get you, but there's no debate to be had about which character this is representing. The deviations seem to be more detail, not really changing his look, at least not to the same extent. As obvious as I felt that Bulkhead was, there was a debate over who that toy was refencing, which is enough for me to label that toy as not being at all close to his cartoon model (which is exactly not the point of that toy).

But you made me think of something with metroplex. Sure, there is some deviations, but he gets a lot of love in that dedicated mold. As does Jihaxus, and as does G2 Prime (and so will "RID Scourge" when he comes out) and so does Tarantulas. They all have these dedicated molds. Those "Prime-verse" toys don't. What I mean is that Knock Out while he may be a G1ified version, that mold choice is more opportunistic than one specifically made for a G1-ified version of him. We can compare that with Lugnut back in the day which was a dedicated mold to a new version of that character. That "Prime" Arcee mold will probably look more at home with another bot wearing it and we'll see about Bulkhead.

That's just an extra angle to it that make these Prime characters feel more apart from the rest of this line. They are exactly like the Botcon toys of old where you repurpose molds onto different characters to give a new version of said characters (like that whole Cybertron beast Wars set (sorry to bring it up, it's just the best example I had)).

Big Grim wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Avoid buying a bad figure in the first place.

"Bad figure" is purely your opinion. In my opinion (and a great many others that I've seen and spoken with) this is a superb Galvatron figure. I'm super happy with both the original and selects versions I have. The ONLY possible problem is I do wish he was roughly the same size as Megatron.

~ Grim

william-james88 wrote:I too preffer the fossilizers as a gimmick. It was a well executed new concept from Hasbro. I will be combining some together to form Konchu from the Moonknight series.

william-james88 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I like the idea of using wingfinger as Khonshu as well, and using the fossilizers are armor for moon knight. I guess for now I'll armor up Punch/Counterpunch but id prefer to use a 3-faced blitzwing in the future

Ooouuu, pretty smart there with that reference.