In hand Images for Studio Series 86 Perceptor

ZeroWolf wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I love how people are treating pvp as if he was the one who personally went into the factory

My question about it would always be why Hasbro isn't seemingly doing anything about it. Correct me if I'm wrong but they could always go after the youtube videos via copyright strikes/ demonetisation. Yet they never do anything, almost like corporate hasbro don't care, even if some within the ranks do.

A point that stand is that too often, the video review can only be INCOMPLETE because of the lack of instructions and even some accessories in some cases.
So, I cannot consider these as "reviews" but I can consider them as LEAKS. Instead of rumors and pictures that get leaked, it's the toy itself.

So if Hasbro would be consistent to prevent the "thefts", they should also go after ALL kinds of leakers. But we all know that Hasbro is too smart to do that because leakers are the "secret marketing team" that works for free.

That's been my belief for a while

I think Hasbro employees are sincere in their complaints about leaks during the official reveal livestreams. Hasbro doesn't need a "secret marketing team" when they have an actual marketing team. There are other industries that are incredibly protective of leaks, like the movie and game industries, but the knowledge is rigidly protected by NDAs and more compartmentalization of the information. Deals on external IP often extend these requirements throughout the production chain with potential penalties, so there can be explicit financial incentives to control the reveals.

Lego historically has been much better than other toy companies at keeping things under wraps, but their production process is more tightly managed than the big companies. The other major tools that Lego used in the past were things like watermarking catalogs and punishing media partners who published materials, but they have recently permitted media partners to cover leaks more openly, probably in part in response to the rise of YouTubers and others who get the info out there anyway. As for copyright / demonetization, I'm not a lawyer but I don't think they could. To my knowledge, physical objects don't have image rights, the media does. So if a Hasbro marketing video leaked, they could take that down, but if someone unaffiliated shoots their own video, that's the property of the person who filmed it. Box art images could be protected, but it would be difficult and counterproductive for Hasbro to take action against some people for their use and not others after they're released.

I'm an Occam's Razor guy, and in this case I think there's a very simple explanation: it takes a lot of effort and expense to limit leaks, and toy companies have limited tools available. If Hasbro could easily shut them down, they would, but their legal, marketing, and production teams have other priorities.

I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

ZeroWolf wrote:I wouldn't be so sure regarding copyright, after all they did managed to successfully manage to derail the not-unicron 3rd party figure that was revealed, like a couple of days after, HasLab Unicron was launched (though the theory there was that they wanted to make an example of them because of the timing,as that same toy eventually did get released, just later then planned).

As to why the debate, who knows? Especially after people are told time and time again to drop it.

However, hopefully this new format can see the end of it.

I thought about that Unicron case too. I never watched the video so I have no idea what the infringing material could have been. I don't think video images of an unlicensed toy based on protected IP, but in any event, I think it's a special case that's not a clean precedent for unreleased Hasbro toys. Hasbro could certainly file a complaint, but would it be upheld? Would it obligate them to go after all toy reviewers or risk being accused of not consistently enforcing copyright, which has broader legal implications? It's not what they can do, it's what they can do without prohibite effort and cost. Certainly going after YTers at all could have a potentially chilling effect on the rest of the community, even those who play by the rules. There are many types of costs to consider.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:I see the thief PVP put a review up for Perceptor.. Gotta love those reviews with stolen figs.

WILL YOU SHUT THE FU

Cyber Bishop wrote:He doesn't have the instructions??

Goddamit...

Moonshot wrote:I absolutely love this Perceptor figure. The Titans Return one was ok, but left me wanting for a better one. As one of my main top fav characters, its important to me to have a great Perceptor and this is it. Of course I wish it had forearm covers and a cover on his back, but Im sure a kit will be made.

Also someone out there please put out a kit for 86' Kup. I would really like a new head with a better face sculpt. Preferably an IDW cygar one.

Agreed on all of this

Hopefully some kits surface with IDW heads for Kup, Perceptor, and Kingdom Cyclonus, and their respective weapons

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'll definitely be looking for an upgrade kit for this guy.
But for the most part, I think his bot mode is very on point...
I appreciate that he has his original alt mode, and at the same time, this is a reminder as to why a vehicle mode has been used in the past... "Playing" with a microscope that doesn't really work or do anything isn't exactly the most exciting feature.

While it probably doesn't need to work, I don't think it would have been that expensive to make it work as a person can buy relatively cheap microscope set in the toy section as it is for $30-40. So to add a couple lenses in his scope couldn't have cost more than $4 at most.

That said, how many people plan to ever use it as a functional microscope anyways? lol

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

But you didnt have shorter bots being a class higher, that element is new.

Beast Machines Megatron was Deluxe height sold as a Mega because of his wings.

Guess nobody noticed the repainted Arcee I can only assume is the Studio Series 86 version? Or a custom?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

But you didnt have shorter bots being a class higher, that element is new.

Yeah, scale did mess things up. Originally they were catered to packaging size it looks like, but now...

The 86 movie Autobots were always somewhat larger than the average 84-85 Autobot, there's nothing wrong with the scale.

Till-all-R1 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'll definitely be looking for an upgrade kit for this guy.
But for the most part, I think his bot mode is very on point...
I appreciate that he has his original alt mode, and at the same time, this is a reminder as to why a vehicle mode has been used in the past... "Playing" with a microscope that doesn't really work or do anything isn't exactly the most exciting feature.

While it probably doesn't need to work, I don't think it would have been that expensive to make it work as a person can buy relatively cheap microscope set in the toy section as it is for $30-40. So to add a couple lenses in his scope couldn't have cost more than $4 at most.

That said, how many people plan to ever use it as a functional microscope anyways? lol

Yeah, my point is while other characters race off as a vehicle, jet, or animal, as part of almost any scenario a kid could make up, a microscope in general isn't that fun to play with.
On top of that, I'll add it's not exactly some sweet display piece.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Then maybe his videos need to not be posted anymore here, oh wait I remember who the site owner is, never mind it is all about the page clicks for the forums and what goes into his pocketbooks and his collection regardless the right or wrong of the situation (I was site admin for 7 years and know all kinds of dirty secrets and one is the reason I stepped away).

william-james88 wrote:
Thank you, yes, let's move on.

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Yes lets move along now, I will most certainly buy Perceptor immediately on sight as he is damn near perfect IMHO. But that's just me