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In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup
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Dec 10, 2021 at 8:21am CST
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Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup
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Comment by sol magnus
Dec 10, 2021
I dunno. He just looks better in this deco to me.
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I think this may be the concensus. The deco does work better in robot than vehicle mode though.
Comment by william-james88
Dec 10, 2021
sol magnus wrote:I dunno. He just looks better in this deco to me.
I think this may be the concensus. The deco does work better in robot than vehicle mode though.
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Good thing I display my Transformers in robot mode then.
But hey, you've given me an idea of what to do with the old one I'm stuck with (since my son also has Kup already). I'll change it to a truck.
Comment by sol magnus
Dec 10, 2021
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:I dunno. He just looks better in this deco to me.
I think this may be the concensus. The deco does work better in robot than vehicle mode though.
Good thing I display my Transformers in robot mode then.
But hey, you've given me an idea of what to do with the old one I'm stuck with (since my son also has Kup already). I'll change it to a truck.
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Comment by Solrac333
Dec 10, 2021
Meh. I'm fine with the first version. At the high deluxe prices, I'm not double dipping.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 10, 2021
It's not just the windows that's different, they actually went and corrected Kup's altmode colors:
The wheels on his legs are now gray instead of black.
The wheels on his legs are now gray instead of black.
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Comment by Rodimus Prime
Dec 10, 2021
I can't believe Hasbro is getting me to double dip on a Kup figure. 
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I found that Kup to be a bad toy.
Yet me too.....
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Dec 10, 2021
Rodimus Prime wrote:I can't believe Hasbro is getting me to double dip on a Kup figure.
I found that Kup to be a bad toy.
Yet me too.....
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Sabr, what is “corrected” per say with the alt mode? The only difference is that they painted some of the sea foam green parts above the windshield turquoise, but that looks less accurate to the movie, as seen below. They had it right the first time. Also, the wheels should be visible at all on the shins, so wether black or gray, it’s still in accurate.
I would love to see some side-by-side comparison pics too, just to compare a d contrast better the colors used for the plastics and paints. They look to be different shades, it it’s impossible to really tell unless they are in the same picture with the same lighting conditions.
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Dec 10, 2021
Sabrblade wrote:It's not just the windows that's different, they actually went and corrected Kup's altmode colors:
The wheels on his legs are now gray instead of black.
Sabr, what is “corrected” per say with the alt mode? The only difference is that they painted some of the sea foam green parts above the windshield turquoise, but that looks less accurate to the movie, as seen below. They had it right the first time. Also, the wheels should be visible at all on the shins, so wether black or gray, it’s still in accurate.
I would love to see some side-by-side comparison pics too, just to compare a d contrast better the colors used for the plastics and paints. They look to be different shades, it it’s impossible to really tell unless they are in the same picture with the same lighting conditions.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 10, 2021
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabr, what is “corrected” per say with the alt mode? The only difference is that they painted some of the sea foam green parts above the windshield turquoise, but that looks less accurate to the movie, as seen below. They had it right the first time. Also, the wheels should be visible at all on the shins, so wether black or gray, it’s still in accurate.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 10, 2021
Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 10, 2021
AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
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Comment by primalxconvoy
Dec 10, 2021
It seems that there is still hope for SS and WFC Trilogy figures to be re-released sans cr@pple-damage paint (ignoring the "anime damage" that this new version of Kup is sporting, like a champ). I hope Galvatron and Springer get this treatment, and possibly some slightly repainted versions of "rare" characters from these lines, like the Seekers, Coneheads, and Earthrise Ratchet and Ironhide, etc.
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I'll give you a shot where lighting is actually playing a trick, though:
In this shot - which seems to be the only other full shot of the truck mode from the movie on the wiki - the upper part of the truck cab is the same color as the windshield section, as per the color model... but you have to look closely to not be fooled by the lighting into thinking it's lighter.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Dec 10, 2021
Except that even taking the lighting into account, the uppermost part of Kup's truck mode cab in that shot is still obviously a paler green than the part with the windshield, with clear dividing lines between the patches of color. The areas of it that are lit are an exact color match for the area of the front right fender that's lit and are paler than the lit area of the section that connects to the bed (with a black line clearly dividing the colors), and the shadowed areas are still lighter than the areas of the windshield section that are in the same band of shadow. It's not just the lighting.Sabrblade wrote:AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
I'll give you a shot where lighting is actually playing a trick, though:
In this shot - which seems to be the only other full shot of the truck mode from the movie on the wiki - the upper part of the truck cab is the same color as the windshield section, as per the color model... but you have to look closely to not be fooled by the lighting into thinking it's lighter.
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Thanks, Zelda! You said it perfectly.
AKOM, though, is responsible for Kup’s shins sometimes being gray instead of turquoises in many post-movie TV episodes.
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Dec 10, 2021
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that even taking the lighting into account, the uppermost part of Kup's truck mode cab in that shot is still obviously a paler green than the part with the windshield, with clear dividing lines between the patches of color. The areas of it that are lit are an exact color match for the area of the front right fender that's lit and are paler than the lit area of the section that connects to the bed (with a black line clearly dividing the colors), and the shadowed areas are still lighter than the areas of the windshield section that are in the same band of shadow.Sabrblade wrote:AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
Thanks, Zelda! You said it perfectly.
AKOM, though, is responsible for Kup’s shins sometimes being gray instead of turquoises in many post-movie TV episodes.
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Along with many other shots in the movie:
Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 10, 2021
Watching the whole sequence reveals that it's all the same color:Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that even taking the lighting into account, the uppermost part of Kup's truck mode cab in that shot is still obviously a paler green than the part with the windshield, with clear dividing lines between the patches of color. The areas of it that are lit are an exact color match for the area of the front right fender that's lit and are paler than the lit area of the section that connects to the bed (with a black line clearly dividing the colors), and the shadowed areas are still lighter than the areas of the windshield section that are in the same band of shadow.Sabrblade wrote:AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
Thanks, Zelda! You said it perfectly.
Along with many other shots in the movie:
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The screenshots you provide from the rest of the movie do obey the color model, but every single one of those shots from the victorious "Transform and roll out" sequence show the top of his cab to be darker than the windshield area.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Dec 10, 2021
Sorry, no it doesn't. At least, not based on what you showed. All those shots you posted? Still show a definite contrast between the uppermost section and the windshield section. They don't all show it as matching the fender, but it's still definitely lighter than the windshield section (which is visibly darker than the top area even in the patches that are in the same light or shadow).Sabrblade wrote:Watching the whole sequence reveals that it's all the same color:
The screenshots you provide from the rest of the movie do obey the color model, but every single one of those shots from the victorious "Transform and roll out" sequence show the top of his cab to be darker than the windshield area.
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Dec 10, 2021
Hmmm…I can see what you mean now, Sabr, but the lighting effects must have fooled the designers too. That’s pretty weird. Got any season 3 screen caps? I wonder if the SS86 release color scheme appears in the show and not the movie.
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These Ukranian models have influenced tons of toys' decos in recent years, thanks to sites like Pinterest and other fan Wikis (who aren't TFWiki) spreading them around the Internet.
Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 10, 2021
It happens more than you think. Google Image searches bring up old fan-colored models from a Ukranian fansite that used that screencap for reference when coloring Kup's altmode:Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm…I can see what you mean now, Sabr, but the lighting effects must have fooled the designers too. That’s pretty weird.
These Ukranian models have influenced tons of toys' decos in recent years, thanks to sites like Pinterest and other fan Wikis (who aren't TFWiki) spreading them around the Internet.
Best I could find (most were at bad angles, in terrible lighting, or from behind):Wolfman Jake wrote:Got any season 3 screen caps? I wonder if the SS86 release color scheme appears in the show and not the movie.
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Comment by Sowndwave76
Dec 10, 2021
All I know is that I like the back wheels gray instead of black because it doesn't make the wheels stand out so much in bot mode.
I also prefer the gray color on the top of the torso around the neck area.
The windshield color is definitely good enough for me, and the extra details of linework are a bonus.
I do wish they would've added details on both legs, not just his right one.
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I just noticed to detail on his left bicep area... I get it, it's literally a small detail, yet I really appreciate that!
Again, I much prefer this new version and will be getting him for sure.
Down the road I hope to see a magenta Hot Rod, and a Galvatron that's a desaturated blue-violet, rather than an almost wine colored red-ish violet of the Kingdom version.
I also prefer the gray color on the top of the torso around the neck area.
The windshield color is definitely good enough for me, and the extra details of linework are a bonus.
I do wish they would've added details on both legs, not just his right one.
*edit*
I just noticed to detail on his left bicep area... I get it, it's literally a small detail, yet I really appreciate that!
Again, I much prefer this new version and will be getting him for sure.
Down the road I hope to see a magenta Hot Rod, and a Galvatron that's a desaturated blue-violet, rather than an almost wine colored red-ish violet of the Kingdom version.
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Dec 10, 2021
There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?
