In-Package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor
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Re: In-Package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor
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Awesome, I can't wait for Menasor as well.
Comment by Robogeek1973
Jul 2, 2015
mooncake623 wrote:TFYUKI just tweeted out an in-package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor! This image shows that Unite Warriors Menasor's packaging will be in the same style of their Superion! Check out the image mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!
Awesome, I can't wait for Menasor as well.
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I wonder what his litograph will be like.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 2, 2015
Robogeek1973 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:TFYUKI just tweeted out an in-package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor! This image shows that Unite Warriors Menasor's packaging will be in the same style of their Superion! Check out the image mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!
Awesome, I can't wait for Menasor as well.
I wonder what his litograph will be like.
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Comment by fenrir72
Jul 2, 2015
It's so good to be a TF fan these days! All these G1 updates! Despite what a few (well one) hecklers about, G1 is a treasure trove of homages and inspiration! August is just 2 monts away (end of August that is).
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And he keeps repeating this for the upteenth time. He already made his intentions as such or haven't you noticed?
Comment by fenrir72
Jul 2, 2015
william-james88 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
Scale issues in a mytho that uses mass shifting as an all around excuse/explanation?
I thought Transformers or the Transformers lifeform is always "improving" or changing /transforming? Mixmaster, though no longer toy accurate is also based on an actual vehicle so no biggy an issue.
That's all well and good. But X wanted to pose this devy along with the other CW combiners into a show accurate scale and replace his 3rd party toy. But since it turns out Hasbro went for a much bigger scale for devastator, he cant. This has nothing to do with what makes sense and doesnt make sense, its just about him wanting his toys to look good together on the shelf and since this Devastator is not in scale with the other CW combiners (and their 3rd party counterparts), he wont buy it. Simple as that. I dont get why we have to constantly debate this. everyone is free to have their own reasons as to why they will or wont buy something.
And he keeps repeating this for the upteenth time. He already made his intentions as such or haven't you noticed?
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Comment by Gearslide
Jul 2, 2015
There are still people complaining about Mismaster's alt mode?
Do they not realize that he seems to have been engineered to look like either type of cement truck, depending on the direction you face him?
This is especially evident when you look at the Takara version and its paint apps. No front loader Cement Truck has that main windows on their back. And from what I understand, that back piece of a Front Loader is normally an engine block, with no windows at all. Normally there's a big vent on the face of it. There's no way it's an accident that they made Mixmaster work in both directions.
You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
Do they not realize that he seems to have been engineered to look like either type of cement truck, depending on the direction you face him?
This is especially evident when you look at the Takara version and its paint apps. No front loader Cement Truck has that main windows on their back. And from what I understand, that back piece of a Front Loader is normally an engine block, with no windows at all. Normally there's a big vent on the face of it. There's no way it's an accident that they made Mixmaster work in both directions.
You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
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... with vents for windows.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jul 2, 2015
Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
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So here's the price prediction I made in the CW Devastator thread:
I was off by 9 cents.
Don't trust the prices from BBTS and TFSource as they're marked up to include importing costs and additional profits. Robotkingdom's MSRP of 25,000JPY most certainly includes sales tax for them to sell at that price so it's more like 23,000JPY. Factor in AmiAmi's typical discount and they'll probably have it possibly as low as 17,250JPY or US$140, effectively making it cheaper than either Hasbro version. Shipping will no doubt bring it up to a little over SDCC Devi's price, but that's hardly a complaint.
If everyone is putting pre-orders up then we should expect Japanese sites to put theirs up soon. Maybe tonight or next week.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jul 2, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:O hai, RobotKingdom with your $179.90 preorder price - http://www.robotkingdom.com/tuwuw04.html
So here's the price prediction I made in the CW Devastator thread:
With that we might be able to predict the Japanese MSRP on Devastator at US$179.99 or around ¥22,300
I was off by 9 cents.
Don't trust the prices from BBTS and TFSource as they're marked up to include importing costs and additional profits. Robotkingdom's MSRP of 25,000JPY most certainly includes sales tax for them to sell at that price so it's more like 23,000JPY. Factor in AmiAmi's typical discount and they'll probably have it possibly as low as 17,250JPY or US$140, effectively making it cheaper than either Hasbro version. Shipping will no doubt bring it up to a little over SDCC Devi's price, but that's hardly a complaint.
If everyone is putting pre-orders up then we should expect Japanese sites to put theirs up soon. Maybe tonight or next week.
Emerje
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Comment by Va'al
Jul 2, 2015
Joining the other sponsors to list the Takara Tomy versions of Transformers Titan class Combiner Wars Unite Warriors UW-04 Devastator, TFSource have also communicated their listing - which you can find below, for $219.99!
Transformers Unite Warriors - UW-04 - Devastator
Takara Tomy's Unite Warrior devastator includes all 6 Constructicons: Mixmaster, Scrapper, Long Haul, Scavenger, Bonecrusher & Hook which unite to form the mighty Devastator! This set is rumored to include elbow joints, individual weapons, more paint apps, purple devastator hands and more!
Transformers Unite Warriors - UW-04 - Devastator
Re: In-Package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor
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They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jul 2, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
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Comment by Robogeek1973
Jul 2, 2015
I'm more than fine with just turning Mixmaster around in vehicle mode.
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Comment by Desslok2201
Jul 2, 2015
Has anyone seen closeup photos of TT Menasor's head? Are the horns black, or that awful gray?
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And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jul 2, 2015
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
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And with that, Takara officially CRUSHES it with Unite Warriors Devastator. Seriously, I don't think there is anything you can say about the Hasbro version at this point that's a clear advantage over the Takara version (besides price, obviously).
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Jul 2, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
And with that, Takara officially CRUSHES it with Unite Warriors Devastator. Seriously, I don't think there is anything you can say about the Hasbro version at this point that's a clear advantage over the Takara version (besides price, obviously).
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It's not so much a new cab as it is paint on pre-existing detail. Takara put Silver on the "Engine" to bring attention to the pseudo-grill already on the mold.
I was saying it since we first saw Combiner Wars Mixmaster in detail: The detailing is there to make him work in either direction in vehicle mode. It's just that Takara is the only one putting paint on the detail to make it apparent.
Comment by Gearslide
Jul 2, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
It's not so much a new cab as it is paint on pre-existing detail. Takara put Silver on the "Engine" to bring attention to the pseudo-grill already on the mold.
I was saying it since we first saw Combiner Wars Mixmaster in detail: The detailing is there to make him work in either direction in vehicle mode. It's just that Takara is the only one putting paint on the detail to make it apparent.
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Ah... so it keeps the vent detailing in the back. Cheaters.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jul 2, 2015
Gearslide wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.
... with vents for windows.
They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.
Emerje
And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!
It's not so much a new cab as it is paint on pre-existing detail. Takara put Silver on the "Engine" to bring attention to the pseudo-grill already on the mold.
I was saying it since we first saw Combiner Wars Mixmaster in detail: The detailing is there to make him work in either direction in vehicle mode. It's just that Takara is the only one putting paint on the detail to make it apparent.
Ah... so it keeps the vent detailing in the back. Cheaters.
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Comment by Agamemnon
Jul 2, 2015
Not to poo poo anyone's ideas, but turning Mixmaster around would also put the dual axles in the "front" of the vehicle. Compromises abound, I guess... 
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If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
Comment by Nemesis Maximo
Jul 2, 2015
Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
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Using vehicles as your scale example is not the way to go, especially on this series. You have fighter jets the size of sportscars, Firetrucks the size of Commercial Passenger Planes, and Tanks the size of Ambulances.
The thing is, the characters go off of robot scale more. Especially compared to the G1 cartoon/comics. While Scramble City teams always had a big guy and 4 normal sized guys (Normal sized being the standard for most Autobots; Decepticons tended to be hefty fellas at the beginning of the series), the Constructicons have always been the same height evenly throughout the team. And they weren't small dudes in the cartoon. When the animation was right, they stood the same height as Seekers and just under the height of Megs, Soundwave, Shockwave, etc.
Unfortunately, making the Constructicons scale in robot mode with other character's robot modes, makes Devastator a very large fellow.
Comment by Gearslide
Jul 2, 2015
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
Using vehicles as your scale example is not the way to go, especially on this series. You have fighter jets the size of sportscars, Firetrucks the size of Commercial Passenger Planes, and Tanks the size of Ambulances.
The thing is, the characters go off of robot scale more. Especially compared to the G1 cartoon/comics. While Scramble City teams always had a big guy and 4 normal sized guys (Normal sized being the standard for most Autobots; Decepticons tended to be hefty fellas at the beginning of the series), the Constructicons have always been the same height evenly throughout the team. And they weren't small dudes in the cartoon. When the animation was right, they stood the same height as Seekers and just under the height of Megs, Soundwave, Shockwave, etc.
Unfortunately, making the Constructicons scale in robot mode with other character's robot modes, makes Devastator a very large fellow.
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Comment by fenrir72
Jul 2, 2015
And we go back to mass shifting and all is right in the world
But if we do compare the actual scale of a Caterpillar vehichle like Longhaul over a military or civilian vehicle, the Constructicons do tower over all others. That and perhaps agains the never been released Raiden team.
Back to my old argument, though it can be really crazy with all sorts of sizes for TF figures like a Goldilocks porridge, I too would want some sanity imposed but for Devastator? He just fit right.
But if we do compare the actual scale of a Caterpillar vehichle like Longhaul over a military or civilian vehicle, the Constructicons do tower over all others. That and perhaps agains the never been released Raiden team.
Back to my old argument, though it can be really crazy with all sorts of sizes for TF figures like a Goldilocks porridge, I too would want some sanity imposed but for Devastator? He just fit right.
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Comment by Nemesis Maximo
Jul 2, 2015
Gearslide wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.
If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.
In your face, X!
Using vehicles as your scale example is not the way to go, especially on this series. You have fighter jets the size of sportscars, Firetrucks the size of Commercial Passenger Planes, and Tanks the size of Ambulances.
